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On 10/10/2020 at 2:26 PM, deicer said:

Blame the victims.

Nobody knew that at the time.  

Regardless of what you post, the crime was a right wing radical shooting and killing two people.


call it Murder, that is what it was.


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China, Saudi Arabia could join Russia and Cuba on UN Human Rights Council

Election of 15 members to the 47-member Human Rights Council takes place today

The Associated Press · Posted: Oct 13, 2020 11:52 AM ET | Last Updated: 30 minutes ago
High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet is shown earlier this year at a Human Rights Council meeting at the European headquarters of the United Nations in Geneva. New members elected Tuesday will serve a three-year term. (Denis Balibouse/Keystone/The Associated Press)

Human rights groups are urging the UN's 193 member nations to oppose seats on the world organization's premiere rights body for China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Cuba and others because of their dismal rights records — but they are all likely to win anyway.

That is because Russia and Cuba are running unopposed in Tuesday's General Assembly election, and China and Saudi Arabia are in a five-way race with Pakistan, Uzbekistan and Nepal for four seats from the Asia-Pacific countries and are tipped to win because of their economic and political clout.


Except for the Asia-Pacific contest, the election of 15 members to the 47-member Human Rights Council has been all but decided because all the other regional groups have uncontested slates, which virtually assures the candidates' victory.

Under the council's rules, seats are allocated to regions to ensure geographical representation. The body is composed of nations who've been elected to overlapping three-year terms.

Four countries are seeking four Africa seats: Ivory Coast, Malawi, Gabon and Senegal. Russia and Ukraine are the only candidates for two East European seats. In the Latin American and Caribbean group, Mexico, Cuba and Bolivia are running unopposed for three seats. And Britain and France are the sole candidates for two seats for the Western European and others group.

"We need for states to have a choice," said Louis Charbonneau, the UN director for Human Rights Watch. "They don't want competition.… Essentially these are backroom deals that are worked out among the regional groups.

"When states don't have a choice, the worst candidates easily find their way on to the council," he said at a briefing last week. "This is an unfortunate political reality, but we keep hammering the message that we need competition and a real election, not a fake election."

'Arsonists into the fire brigade': critic

Last week, a coalition of human rights groups from Europe, the United States and Canada called on UN member states to oppose the election of China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Pakistan and Uzbekistan, saying their human rights records make them "unqualified."

"Electing these dictatorships as UN judges on human rights is like making a gang of arsonists into the fire brigade," said Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch.

The Geneva-based rights organization published a 30-page joint report with the Human Rights Foundation and the Raoul Wallenberg Center for Human Rights evaluating candidates for council seats. The report lists Bolivia, Ivory Coast, Nepal, Malawi, Mexico, Senegal and Ukraine as having "questionable" credentials due to problematic human rights and UN voting records that need improvement. It gave "qualified" ratings only to the United Kingdom and France.

Human Rights Watch pointed to an unprecedented call by 50 UN experts on June 26 for "decisive measures to protect fundamental freedoms in China," warning about its mass rights violations in Hong Kong and Tibet and against ethnic Uighurs in the Chinese province of Xinjiang as well as attacks on rights defenders, journalists, lawyers and government critics. Their call was echoed by over 400 civil society groups from more than 60 countries.

Despite announced reform plans by Saudi Arabia, Human Rights Watch said that nation continues to target human rights defenders, dissidents and women's rights activists — which include jailed former University of British Columbia student Loujian Alhathloul — and has demonstrated little accountability for past abuses, including the killing of Washington Post columnist and Saudi critic Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul two years ago.

The rights group said Russia's military operations with the Syrian government "have deliberately or indiscriminately killed civilians and destroyed hospitals and other protected civilian infrastructure in violation of international humanitarian law," and noted Russia's veto of UN Security Council resolutions on Syria, including blocking Damascus's referral to the International Criminal Court.

The Geneva-based Human Rights Council can spotlight abuses and has special monitors watching certain countries and issues. It also periodically reviews human rights in every UN member country.

Created in 2006 to replace a commission discredited because of some members' poor rights records, the new council soon came to face similar criticism.

The United States announced its withdrawal from the council in June 2018 partly because it considered the body a forum for hypocrisy about human rights, though also because Washington says the council is anti-Israel.

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Fifty years after the War Measures Act


  • Calgary Herald
  • 14 Oct 2020
  • CATHERINE FORD Catherine Ford is a regular columnist for the Calgary Herald.

It remains an uneasy truce, this relationship between Quebec and the rest of Canada. Between separatists and nationalists. Between a “distinct nation” and a confederation of provinces. Fifty years ago this week, it came to a head with the invocation of the War Measures Act.

Historical revisionists have, with increasing ferocity and in retrospect, denounced the act's broad and sweeping powers, which saw Canadian citizens arbitrarily arrested and detained without legal counsel. It was an affront to every civil libertarian outside of Quebec. Then-prime minister Pierre Trudeau would later say in an interview with the New York Times that the Quebec civil liberties society approved of his actions. The act was eventually repealed in

1988 and replaced with the Emergencies Act, which includes two counter measures: If the federal cabinet declares a national emergency and invokes the act, it must be reviewed by Parliament, and any laws enacted during that time must conform to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Maybe too many revisionists are too young to have lived through those dreadful days when a radical and violent fringe of the Front de Liberation du Quebec kidnapped British Trade Commissioner James Cross and Quebec's Labour Minister Pierre Laporte. Cross was eventually released; Laporte was murdered.

Maybe revisionists are trying to force the current federal government to apologize. As someone who watched in horror as Quebec (mostly Montreal) turned violent — and the insurrection grew and bombs exploded in mailboxes — I would never vote for that.

Apologies are all the rage these days — most of them warranted. But along with the sins of the fathers for which we — and our governments — need to apologize and seek forgiveness, too many are based on revisionist history. Must John A. Macdonald's historical value as Canada's first prime minister and the man who linked the country together with a transcontinental railroad be erased because of his government's indignities against First Nations? We are far too fond of looking back with modern eyes and current sensibilities.

Two weeks ago, the Quebec government rejected a motion to ask for an official apology for his father's actions from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who was not yet born in 1970. (He was born Christmas Day, 1971.)

For many of us a tad older — well, a generation older — we remember. Indeed, I certainly was not the only Canadian who watched on television as the prime minister solemnly and seriously, his voice cold and his face grave, invoked the War Measures Act. Many of us were grateful and proud to have a leader willing to take such bold steps in the face of what should have been characterized as domestic terrorism. (Trudeau would later that year actually use the word “terrorism.”) Today, that would have been the only label attached.

Pierre Trudeau himself wrote, in The Essential Trudeau, edited by Ron Graham: “As long as there is freedom of speech and as long as everyone is free to form opposition parties and dissident groups, there is no place for violence. That's why I refused to deal with the FLQ'S long list of demands in October 1970. (Demands included the release of 23 inmates the FLQ characterized as “political prisoners”) … You can't let unelected people wielding guns exercise the authority over who should be in jail and who shouldn't.”

In November 1970, speaking to a Liberal policy conference in Ottawa, Trudeau elaborated: “Violence is a negation of individual rights and respect for those rights is compatible only with gradual social change through selective and deliberate evolution.”

Now, 50 years later, the flames of Quebec separation have been muted while the briquettes of Alberta alienation are being fanned into the unthinkable — leaving Confederation.

Regardless of the erudite and thoughtful deliberations being put forward by eminent academics and policy wonks, the underlying emotion is exactly what fuelled the FLQ — burning anger. It's the notion the duly elected government headed by the son of the man who invoked another outrage — the National Energy Program — has no authority to govern us.

We lack the arms, the dynamite and the will to launch an armed insurrection, but vitriol against the current Trudeau and the ever-growing popularity of alienation can be just as dangerous.

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I will agree with you about religious organisations, they are 'all' corrupt.  What started out as a good idea was perverted by those who only were in it to enrich themselves.

As for Scouting, it is akin to being a pilot.  

The program, in Canada at least where I have first hand knowledge, was designed with protections and backups.  Like pilots, those who were legitimate did a great job.  

Unfortunately, like pilots, there were the occasional ones who would slip through the cracks and cause a lot of damage.

That's why you have training, reviewing, and oversight. 

Scouts Canada calls it 'Two Deep'.  Nobody is supposed to be with youth unless there are two or more leaders present.


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10 hours ago, JDunkin said:

Based on what I have read over the years, the one of the biggest group of pedophiles is the Catholic church.

Comparisons with other environments

Comparison with schools

Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft, the author of a report on sexual offenses in schools, said sexual violence is much more prevalent in schools than in the Church.  According to the report, up to 422,000 students from California will be victims of sexual violence in the future.

Comparison with Protestant Churches and Jehovah's Witnesses

A report issued by Christian Ministry Resources (CMR) in 2002 stated that contrary to popular opinion, there are more allegations of pedophilia in Protestant congregations than Catholic ones, and that sexual violence is most often committed by volunteers rather than by priests.  It also criticized the way the media reported sexual crimes in Australia. The Royal Commission in Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse revealed that between January 1950 and February 2015, 4,445 people alleged incidents of child sexual abuse in 4,765 claims. The media reportedly reported that as many as 7% of priests were accused of being a pedophile, but ignored the same report on the Protestant Churches and Jehovah's Witnesses; Gerard Henderson stated

That’s 2,504 incidents or allegations in the period between 1977, when the Uniting Church was formed, and 2017. This compares with 4,445 claims with respect to the Catholic Church between 1950 and 2015. And the Catholic Church is five times larger than the Uniting Church. Moreover, the Royal Commission did not include allegations in the period 1950 to 1977 with respect to the Presbyterian, Congregational and Methodist communities which folded into the Uniting Church in 1977. This would take the number of allegations beyond 2,504, especially since it seems that child sexual abuse was at its worst in the 1960s and 1970s. (...) Allegations against the Jehovah Witness religion, on a per capita basis, are dramatically higher than for either the Catholic or the Uniting churches.

— Gerard Henderson


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Stupidity reigns supreme in 2020


Those taking in Jungle Book, Dumbo, Peter Pan, The Aristocats and more will get a warning that the films carry negative portrayals of certain races and cultures. For years, Disney has been taken to task over a number of its classics — a situation exacerbated by the more recent global reckoning on racism and discrimination.

In Disney’s The Aristocats (1970), for example, a yellow-faced cat uses chopsticks to play piano. In Peter Pan (1953), Native Americans are dubbed “redskins.” In Dumbo, from 1941, crows teach the elephant how to fly. Their voices, though, have a jarring, stereotypical Black sound. In Disney’s Lady and the Tramp, from 1955, Si and Am, Siamese cats, are portrayed using anti-Asian stereotypes. And in 1968’s Jungle Book, King Louie is a lazy ape with another exaggerated way of speaking.




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Yes, China's our foe

Envoy's threats to Canadians in Hong Kong make it clear

  • Calgary Sun
  • 17 Oct 2020
  • LORRIE GOLDSTEIN lgoldstein@postmedia.com @sunlorrie
img?regionKey=%2bOA9fX9bmUlSJjgSxkx7zg%3d%3dTHE CANADIANPRESS FILES Cong Peiwu's comments Thursday were a thinly veiled threat.

Now that China's thug dictators are threatening the 300,000 Canadians living in Hong Kong if Canada grants fleeing pro-democracy demonstrators there political asylum, let's put to rest two previous incredibly naive Liberal views of China.

First, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's foolish quip in 2013, when, as Liberal leader, he said he admired China's “basic dictatorship.”

Second, Canadian Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan saying at a security conference in Halifax last November that, “we don't consider China as an adversary.”

On Thursday, China's Ambassador to Canada, Cong Peiwu, made it clear China's leaders are indeed our adversaries.

This given his thinly veiled threat aimed at us during a video press conference from the Chinese Embassy in Ottawa, covered by The Canadian Press.

“We strongly urge the Canadian side not (to) grant so-called political asylum to those violent criminals in Hong Kong, because it is ... interference in China's domestic affairs, and certainly it will embolden those violent criminals,”

Cong said.

“So if the Canadian side really cares about the stability and the prosperity in Hong Kong, and really cares about the good health and safety of those 300,000 Canadian passport-holders in Hong Kong, and the large number of Canadian companies operating in Hong Kong, you should support those efforts to fight violent crimes.”

Cherie Wong, executive director of Alliance Canada Hong Kong, rightly called the ambassador's words a “direct threat … It should not be lost on Canadians living in Hong Kong or China, they could be next. Ambassador Cong suggested so himself.”

Canadians already know

China is a rogue nation — meaning its leaders, not its people.

This given their unjust arrest, detention and horrendous treatment — now in its 678th day — of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig on so-called spying charges.

That was done in retaliation for Canada honouring its extradition treaty with the U.S. with regard to the case of

Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou, in a blatant bid by China to swap Meng for Canada's Two Michaels.

By contrast, Canada's lawful and humane treatment of Meng, in which she is afforded every luxury while her extradition case grinds its way forward in Vancouver, stands in stark contrast to China's thuggish behaviour when it comes to Canada's Two Michaels.

The reality is that the vast majority of asylum seekers trying to get out of Hong Kong are doing so because China's dictators in Beijing imposed a draconian national security law there.

That spits in the face of China's 1984 international commitment to guarantee 50 years of “a high degree of autonomy for Hong Kong” under the principle of “one country, two systems.” That was supposed to remain in place when governance of the city was transferred from the U.K. to China in 1997.

Realistically we should expect nothing more from China's dictators.

They initially hid the severity of COVID from the world, including arresting and intimidating doctors in Wuhan, the epicentre of the original outbreak, who were trying to alert the global community to the truth — that it was spreading through human transmission.

They surreptitiously bought up and hoarded scarce pandemic supplies from other countries, including Canada, even while the Trudeau government, in a gesture of goodwill, shipped 16 tonnes of pandemic personal protective equipment to China for humanitarian reasons.

So far, at least, Trudeau has stood up to calls from former fat-cat Liberals with their financial hooks in China to arrange a prisoner swap — Meng for Kovrig and Spavor.

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Salma Lakhani: Alberta’s 19th lieutenant governor also ‘happens to be Muslim’

By Fakiha Baig The Canadian Press
Posted October 18, 2020 12:50 pm
4:17Meet Alberta Lieutenant-Governor Salma Lakhani
WATCH ABOVE: Alberta's new Lieutenant-Governor is honoured to be the first Muslim in Canadian history to be appointed to the office; but Salma Lakhani looks forward to the day when there are no more firsts. Gord Steinke spoke with Edmonton business woman and long-time community advocate Salma Lakhani about becoming Alberta's 19th Lieutenant-Governor.
Salma Lakhani may be the first Muslim and South Asian lieutenant-governor in Canada, but that’s not what she wants to be known for.

Alberta’s 19th lieutenant-governor says she wants to use her role as a representative of the Queen to break down divisive barriers.

“Alberta has had a lot of firsts,” the soft-spoken Lakhani, 68, said during an interview at the lieutenant-governor’s official residence in Edmonton’s Old Glenora area.

“We had the first lieutenant-governor of Chinese descent in Alberta, the first Indigenous lieutenant-governor in all of Canada came from Alberta, and the first Muslim mayor for a large city is in Alberta,” she said.

“I’m happy that we are evolving … and I’m a part of that process (where) we don’t have these firsts anymore. To say a ‘first’ is a barrier we have to break down. (Instead, we should say), ‘She got appointed on her own merit and she happens to be Muslim.'


Alberta’s legislature is to resume sitting on Tuesday, and Lakhani said she hopes to draw from the adversities she has faced in her life to unite Albertans and find common ground. Sworn in to her five-year term in August, she is still figuring out exactly how she will do that.

She is sure about one thing.

“I want to go out and meet Albertans,” Lakhani said. “I want to listen to their stories, their hopes, their dreams, their aspirations, and I want to learn from them before I actually set down concrete goals.”


Born in Kampala, Uganda, Lakhani had a modest upbringing with her parents and two brothers.

It wasn’t until she was studying biochemistry in England in 1972 that she found out Ugandans of Asian origin were being expelled from her home country.

“We literally had to leave our house keys, our car keys, close our businesses and leave the keys there.”

In 1977, Lakhani found herself in Edmonton with her husband who was completing his medical residency at the University of Alberta. Since then, they have called the province their home.

The biggest lesson Lakhani says she learned when she was uprooted from her life in Uganda is the power of education.

“Education really helps to lift people up. That’s something that I’ve always carried with me through my own life journey. I was expelled from my country, we lost everything, but we didn’t lose our education.”


Her passion for education motivated Lakhani to become a vocal community member who would become one of the first mentors of the youth in transition program at Edmonton’s NorQuest community college. The program provides guidance for students with English as a second language.

Lakhani has also volunteered for several organizations, including the Lois Hole Hospital for Women in Edmonton, the city’s child crisis prevention shelter Kids Kottage and the Aga Khan Foundation Canada.


Her foot-on-the-ground approach to understanding her community and serving it better is something Lakhani said she will bring with her to her role as lieutenant-governor.

“One of the things I really want to do is highlight the people who do all this grassroots work. Those are the people who do a lot of the work and a lot of times they’re the unsung heroes. They’re not recognized. I would like to devote some of my time and energy to that.”

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Hugely significant but largely ignored by a mainstream media totally corrupted by agenda. People who routinely quote them as "verifiable sources" really need to get out more. 


By way of comparison, it wasn't long ago that military members had to be very careful NOT to get an Israeli stamp in their passport or they would be denied entry to the UAE.

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Controversial but worth the watch in it's entirety, especially when they talk about the economy. I was amazed at the empty streets he showed of New York. Something you won't find in the media



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11 minutes ago, Wolfhunter said:

Hugely significant but largely ignored by a mainstream media totally corrupted by agenda. People who routinely quote them as "verifiable sources" really need to get out more. 


By way of comparison, it wasn't long ago that military members had to be very careful NOT to get an Israeli stamp in their passport or they would be denied entry to the UAE.

Do you think we are seeing the beginnings of a 'Middle Eastern Bloc', much like the European union?

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10 hours ago, Wolfhunter said:

By way of comparison, it wasn't long ago that military members had to be very careful NOT to get an Israeli stamp in their passport or they would be denied entry to the UAE.

The same thing happened when I had a UAE stamp and tried to enter Israel

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If you build it, they will come........(a tale about homelessness in Toronto):

Roehampton Hotel shelter a mess

The Roehampton hotel COVID shelter has been totally trashed and the TVs have been removed from all the rooms because they were being smashed, a source told the Toronto Sun.

The city insider, who works as a Client Support Worker (CSW) but preferred to remain anonymous for fear of retribution, said many of the clients are using drugs in their own rooms due to the backlash from the midtown community.

The source said a co-worker was “absolutely disgusted” with a client who’d burned the carpet in his room and had needles all over his bed and the floor.

Some of the clients are even defecating on the floors of their rooms, the source said.

“This hotel is apparently totally wrecked” on the floors housing the homeless, said the CSW.

He said the clients are very “low functioning” — really messed up –and the CSWs are constantly dealing with “needles, meth kits, crack pipes all over the place” inside the hotel.

The source said the city will have to restore the hotel back to the way it was (part of the lease agreement) which will cost “millions.”

The controversial shelter — which is operating at about $220-per client each day and opened July 3 — has 174 clients.......

Whenever the city takes over a hotel, a dealer will “rent a room” in the same building for a month or live nearby where homeless users can find them, the source says.

“It’s unbelievable,” he added. “I’ve cried a lot over the past few months.”

The CSW called harm reduction “enabling” and said many who get clean needles go out to nearby Alexandra park and distribute them to friends living in the tents.

There are no repercussions when the clients come into the shelters totally high, he said, noting the only thing they do is watch them for hours and talk to them.



I have never thought “safe injection sites” to be an answer to a drug problem....mandatory rehab maybe, but this situation is only getting worse in Toronto and a different approach is needed.

i am thankful I don’t have family going through circumstances Similar to that being reported in the article.


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