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Liberals pull plug on decade-old plan to move elite Joint Task Force 2 unit

Tue Feb 11, 2020 - The Globe and Mail
Lee Berthiaume

The federal Liberal government is pulling the plug on a decade-old plan to move the military’s elite Joint Task Force 2 to a new base, ending years of speculation and uncertainty for the commando unit’s members and their families.

The decision, announced Monday by Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan in response to a question from The Canadian Press, comes despite the previous Conservative government’s having spent millions acquiring land for a new facility near Canadian Forces Base Trenton in Ontario.

“In the changing global security environment, we remain focused on making sure that the Canadian special forces are equipped to deal with these challenges,” Mr. Sajjan said in an e-mailed statement.

“I want to assure those who are serving with JTF2 and their families that we have no plans to move this facility out of Ottawa.”

While the minister did not provide reasons for the decision, defence officials have previously spoken of a desire to keep JTF2, whose primary role is counterterror missions in Canada and abroad, close to Ottawa to guard against terrorist attacks.

There have also been reports that the cost of the new base had skyrocketed in recent years, with Postmedia quoting internal Defence Department documents from 2016 as saying the price had more than tripled from $364-million to $1.2-billion.

The previous Conservative government first decided to move the super secretive unit from its Dwyer Hill base west of Ottawa to a new location next to CFB Trenton in 2007.

The Conservatives at the time felt having the commando unit close to an airport – CFB Trenton has the Canadian Armed Forces’ busiest airfield – would improve its ability to respond quickly to domestic and international emergencies.

Ottawa bought property north of CFB Trenton but ran into fierce opposition from one farmer whose ultimately unsuccessful fight to keep his 90-hectare farm made headlines. The government eventually expropriated Frank Meyers’s land; he died last year.

The government has not said how much it spent on the more than 200 hectares purchased for the move, but officials have pegged the total in the millions of dollars.

Despite years of effort, however, the move never happened. The issue hung over the military and JTF2, even as members of the unit deployed to places such as Iraq to help in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.

Defence officials would later cite concerns about “lone wolf” terrorist attacks as one reason for keeping JTF2 close to Ottawa. One such attack in October, 2014, saw an ISIL sympathizer kill Corporal Nathan Cirillo in front of the National War Memorial before storming Parliament.

Reports about the new facility’s escalating costs also raised questions about the feasibility of relocating the unit.

Major-General Peter Dawe, the commander of Canadian Special Operations Forces Command, which includes JTF2, said in an interview last week that he was still awaiting word on whether the unit would move.

While commanders had been able to minimize any impact on the unit caused by the uncertainty, Maj-Gen. Dawe added, “a decision would be welcome.”

The Defence Department has not said what it will do with the land that was purchased near CFB Trenton, although officials have suggested it could be used for training or to store ammunition.

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Interesting position Trudeau has got the country into by free and open consent with indigenous groups...one high profile indigenous lawyer is implying that means any and everybody.....how will that work???.....the country will gradually grind to a halt ...witness the cn rail blockade and now a takeover of a former MPs office in Toronto (symbolic) and the arrests in B.C. for ignoring an injunction. The AFN and band chiefs don’t mean anything as long as individuals and fringe groups can control the show.

 

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Rex Murphy: This is the outcome of Justin Trudeau's disastrous sloganeering ( Much like Don Cherry, I wonder how much longer Rex will remain a CBC  broadcaster)
 

“ words from this government are like fairground balloons: they float upwards because they are so light. If there were a carbon tax on platitudes, this government would be broke. “
 

This government has been content to drift on the expression of fine sentiments, to earn the lazy applause that comes from saying the right things — such as on climate change and now on Aboriginal discontent. These two issued are now intertwined. Opposition to a pipeline is the flash point of a crisis that’s expanding outward to engulf the whole country. And as the blockades swell and continue, discontent in the Western provinces grows.

There are two great winds astir in Canada, and it will take far more than slogans to calm them.

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-this-is-the-outcome-of-justin-trudeaus-disastrous-sloganeering?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1582055877

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1 hour ago, Jaydee said:

This is the outcome of Justin Trudeau's disastrous sloganeering

Well ya. 

The most worrisome thing to me is that people seem surprised by the developments. 

I stand in awe..... it's like talking to people at the range, what did you think was going to happen here? He said he was going to go after your AR15 and handguns, it was a bloody election promise, was anyone paying attention?  

It's like, did you like think he was like totally kidding like? 

PS. I think this author has it mostly right except I don't blame Trudeau, he is what he is and he never tried to conceal it. The blame lies solely with the voters and no where else. 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-were-reaping-what-trudeau-sowed

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4 hours ago, Wolfhunter said:

Well ya. 

The most worrisome thing to me is that people seem surprised by the developments. 

I stand in awe..... it's like talking to people at the range, what did you think was going to happen here? He said he was going to go after your AR15 and handguns, it was a bloody election promise, was anyone paying attention?  

It's like, did you like think he was like totally kidding like? 

PS. I think this author has it mostly right except I don't blame Trudeau, he is what he is and he never tried to conceal it. The blame lies solely with the voters and no where else. 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-were-reaping-what-trudeau-sowed

Living here in the blameless West, I can see we are indeed a country divided.,  I wonder how Quebec will react to the CN layoffs only in Montreal. 😀

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Who lives the life of privilege?

https://north99.org/2020/02/19/canadians-ridicule-scheers-privilege-comments-after-discovering-925000-in-expenses-covered-by-the-conservative-party

The Leader of the Conservative Party is under fire again, this time for his comments telling Indigenous Canadians and protesters to “check their privilege.” Scheer was initially blasted for the racist undertones of his comments. Perry Bellegarde, National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, took Scheer to task for the absurdity of his photo-op moment.

👋🇨🇦Conservatives who support Andrew Scheer🇨🇦👋

‘We have to clarify [Andrew Scheer’s] statement.
is it the privilege of 1200 missing murdered indigenous woman & girls that Mr. Scheer was referring to?

You can’t make statements that pit groups of people against groups of people pic.twitter.com/NSdzLJiEiA

— BabyAlbertaYoda (@SpunkyAlternate) February 16, 2020

 

Others pointed out the hypocrisy of Scheer making such comments given the privileged and affluent life he enjoys.

 

Check your privilege. Andrew Scheer is a taxpayer trust fund millionaire who lives in a 34 room mansion with cooks, drivers, maids, and other taxpayer funded staff. He has earned over $6M+ in wages and gold plated taxpayer funded pension. A life of privilege. #cdnpoli #cdnmedia

— Neil Before Zod™ (@WaytowichNeil) February 14, 2020

Andrew Scheer says protesters need to "check their privilege".
And then he says "excuse me, I need to call my chauffeur to pick up my kids at their private school and bring them home to our free rental so our chef can cook them a light lunch of quail and chocolate milk."

— (Fake) Pastor Dino Den Esau,BOOMER LIKE UR GRAMPA! (@DinoRancho) February 14, 2020

 

Now Scheer is in hot water again after his party refused to disclose how he expensed $925,000 in party funds, $700,000 over-budget. There are allegations he used these funds to pay for his children’s private schooling. Renewed attention to Scheer’s expense scandal resulted in many Canadians pointing out the hypocrisy. 

 

First you tell someone else to check their privilege . . . and now you're going on about outrageous spending?

It's kinda like a blind driver screaming at other people to stay in their lane, no?https://t.co/JO6P1BWQLq

— Barney Panofsky's Best Intentions (@mynamesnotgordy) February 17, 2020

So the guy that told First Nation people to check their privilege was checking out on a slush fund of 925k from Conservative donors?
You can't make this up. https://t.co/BwkVBEMnI9

— Charlie Angus NDP (@CharlieAngusNDP) February 17, 2020

Guess someone needed to check their privilege.

Better yet, Harper was the fund manager. Where's Wright? 😂😂😂

Senior Cons seething over Conservative Fund’s refusal to share #Scheer’s $700,000 over-budget expense details with national council#cdnpoli
https://t.co/1PViBGhyCd

— Citizen_Forward (@ThePhotowagon) February 18, 2020

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13 hours ago, deicer said:

Who lives the life of privilege?

University students and those who have never left the vacation circuit seem blissfuly unaware that they are the most privileged group in human history. I love it when the privileged disparage the very privilege they are privileged to enjoy.   

 In terms of the current debacle, we have this little thing called the constitution and it outlines who can do what and when they can do it. It's a concept those lacking "privilege" envy, and those who posses privilege rail against. 

As I've said before, great civilizations are NEVER murdered, they wilfully commit suicide, and those who tie the noose profess the virtue of their politics as they fashion the loop. Has it ever been otherwise?

Tell a soldier where the landmines are and he will build a fence and walk around them. Tell a liberal where they are and he will don ear defenders, heavy boots and stomp his feet until he finds one; he will then complain about MEDEVAC response times and label the roll IV trauma centre systemically racist. 

 

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19 hours ago, Fido said:

Does anyone else just page down when they see a post by Deicer?

It's easier than that, you just hit the ignore posts by deicer button and life returns to normal.

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