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Breeding stock?

This always comes up when someone spends THEIR money on something THEY want. How many of you take a Vacation every year to some sunny resort for a week or 2 or more?  Well that money could feed a

Hope it doesn't have the space equivalent to an MCAS system.

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2 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

.The start  of aviation benefited all mankind and basically made life easier for humans and as we moved on, it made life easier for millions....

As I said....what is the "upside" of getting humans living on Mars?

 

Maybe and I hope I am wrong, and  if we are able to develop it, perhaps as an "Lifeboat" . 

Re aviation, I agree but it also has made it possible to:  🙃

1.  More easily conduct wars in far off locations.

2. Rapidly spread disease.

3. Dramatically increase the worlds population.

Luckily there are more positives than negatives to aviation 👍 but there are some would disagree. 

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De Havilland to pause Dash-8 production, 500 employees affected

Wed Feb 17, 2021 - BNN/Bloomberg
Jon Victor

De Havilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd. said Wednesday that it will pause production of new Dash 8-400 at its Downsview factory, as airlines re-evaluate their costs amid harsh market conditions.

Around 500 employees will be affected by the indefinite production pause, De Havilland Canada said, adding that its goal is to resume new aircraft delivery as soon as possible, subject to market demand.

"While this evolution is taking place against the backdrop of unprecedented industry circumstances, we see a bright future for De Havilland Canada and the Dash 8," said David Curtis, executive chairman of De Havilland Canada parent Longview Aviation Capital.

Bombardier, the previous owner of the Downsview site in Toronto, sold it in 2018. Longview Aviation Capital bought the Dash 8 aircraft program from Bombardier in 2019.

De Havilland Canada has begun preparing to leave the site over the latter part of the year and says there are a number of options in Canada. The Dash 8 program's site lease expires in 2021.

The production cuts underscore the uncertainty in the Canadian aviation industry, where market pressures have forced airlines to cut costs as much as possible in order to preserve cash. Regional routes, for which the Dash 8 is designed, have been hit especially hard, with companies like Air Canada and WestJet scaling down domestic flights.

Air Canada said in November that it was cancelling orders for 12 Airbus A220s and 10 Boeing 737 Max 8s as the airline was forced to scale down its operations.

As a result of the route cuts, thousands of airline workers have been laid off since the start of the year, when the federal government cracked down further on international travel.

Air Canada said last week that it expected that some of the quarantine measures could be replaced by testing programs by April 30, when airlines are scheduled to resume many flights. But experts have warned that a full recovery for the aviation industry could take years.

"We are sensitive to the impact that a production pause will have on our employees, and are committed to treating everyone with transparency and respect," Curtis said. "This decision is no reflection on the quality of our team, which has performed exceedingly well through the disruptions of the past year."

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NEXT LIVE EVENTS

Feb. 18, Thursday
12:30 p.m.—Perseverance Mars Rover landing day livestream for all students
2:15 p.m.—NASA will provide multiple feeds of live landing coverage of the Perseverance Mars Rover, leading up to the rover's landing at approximately 3:55 p.m. EST.

2:30 p.m.—"Juntos Perseveramos": live Spanish-language landing commentary on NASA en Español’s YouTube channel.
5:30 p.m. (no earlier than)—Perseverance Mars Rover post-landing coverage 

 

7 minutes of terror': Perserverance rover's nail-biting landing phase
by AFP Staff Writers
Washington (AFP) Feb 18, 2021

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Seven months after blast-off, NASA's Mars 2020 mission will have to negotiate its shortest and most intense phase on Thursday: the "seven minutes of terror" it takes to slam the brakes and land the Perseverance rover on a narrow target on the planet's surface.

Entry, Descent, and Landing (EDL) begins when the spacecraft carrying Perseverance strikes the Martian atmosphere at nearly 12,500 miles per hour (20,000 kilometers per hour).

It ends around seven minutes later with the rover at rest on the surface.

Touchdown on the Jezero Crater is scheduled for 3:55 pm US eastern time (2055 GMT). Weather conditions so far appear favorable in the Martian northern hemisphere spring, but nothing is taken for granted.

"This is one of the most difficult maneuvers that we do in this business, and almost 50 percent of the spacecraft that had been sent to the surface of Mars have failed," Matt Wallace, the mission's deputy project manager said.

- Atmospheric entry -

Ten minutes before entering the Martian atmosphere, the spacecraft sheds its cruise stage that supplied the fuel tanks, radios and solar panels on the voyage.

It's left with just a protective aeroshell, carrying the rover and descent stage, and it fires thrusters to make sure its heat shield is forward facing.

At about 80 miles (130 kilometers) altitude, it careens into the atmosphere and things start to get hot: peak heating occurs about 80 seconds in when the heat shield surface reaches 2,370 degrees Fahrenheit (about 1,300 degrees Celsius).

Perseverance is tucked away safely in the aeroshell, only experiencing room temperature.

The craft might need to fire thrusters to stay on course as it hits air pockets.

- Parachute deployment -

Once the spacecraft has slowed down to less than 1,000 miles (1,600 kilometers) an hour, it's time to deploy the 70.5 feet (21.5 meters) wide supersonic parachute at an altitude of seven miles (11 kilometers).

Perseverance is deploying a new technology called Range Trigger that decides the precise moment to deploy, based on the craft's position relative to the landing site.

Asked to name the single most critical event, NASA's EDL lead Allen Chen said: "Obviously there's a lot of concentrated risk in supersonic parachute opening."

To try out its new design, NASA had to carry out extensive supersonic parachute testing from high altitudes here on Earth, a field of research that had been dormant since the 1970s.

- Heat shield separation -

Next, the spacecraft jettisons its heat shield, around 20 seconds after the parachute has been deployed. The rover is exposed to the atmosphere for the first time, and uses a landing radar to bounce signals off the surface and calculate its precise altitude.

The mission will also see another technology deployed for the first time: the "Terrain Relative Navigation" (TRN) system that uses a special camera to identify surface features and compare them to an onboard map where engineers pre-programmed the safest landing sites.

"That gives our vehicle eyes, and the ability to really see where she's going and figure out where she is," said Chen.

- Powered descent -

In the thin atmosphere of Mars, the parachute will only get the vehicle down to 200 miles (300 kilometers) per hour -- so Perseverance has to cut the chute loose, dispense with its back shell, and use rocket thrusters to ease itself down.

It does this using an eight-engined jetpack that's installed directly above the rover and fires up at around 6,900 feet (2100 meters) above the surface.

The vehicle has to tilt right away in order to avoid the falling parachute and back shell, then uses its sophisticated systems to continue its descent.

- Skycrane -

With 12 seconds to go, at a height of 66 feet (20 meters), the rocket-powered descent stage lowers the rover down to the ground using long cables in a maneuver called "skycrane."

The rover locks its legs and wheels into a landing position and touches the ground at a little less than two miles (1.2 kilometers) an hour, as the descent stage flies off and makes its own controlled landing.

Perseverance is now set for its mission as Earth's fifth rover on Mars.

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De Havilland to pause Dash-8 production, 500 employees affected

Wed Feb 17, 2021 - BNN/Bloomberg
Jon Victor

De Havilland Aircraft of Canada Ltd. said Wednesday that it will pause production of new Dash 8-400 at its Downsview factory, as airlines re-evaluate their costs amid harsh market conditions.

Around 500 employees will be affected by the indefinite production pause, De Havilland Canada said, adding that its goal is to resume new aircraft delivery as soon as possible, subject to market demand.

"While this evolution is taking place against the backdrop of unprecedented industry circumstances, we see a bright future for De Havilland Canada and the Dash 8," said David Curtis, executive chairman of De Havilland Canada parent Longview Aviation Capital.

 

De Havilland Canada Charts Future for the Dash 8 Aircraft Program

 
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Feb 17, 2021, 12:35 ET

Focused on enhancing support to the global Dash 8 community as the aviation industry recovers

 

TORONTO, Feb. 17, 2021 /CNW/ - De Havilland Aircraft of Canada Limited ("De Havilland Canada") today reaffirmed its long-term commitment to the global Dash 8 operator community and outlined the path forward for the Dash 8 aircraft program. While the pandemic has ravaged the global aviation industry, De Havilland Canada is making future-oriented investments in its organization, systems and infrastructure to enhance the Dash 8 platform for current and future aircraft operators.

"We fully expect worldwide demand for the Dash 8 to return once the industry has recovered from the pandemic, and the aircraft's characteristics – including low operating costs, low emissions impact, and performance capabilities that support efficient regional operations – will make the Dash 8 an important part of the aviation industry's post-pandemic recovery," said David Curtis, Executive Chairman of Longview Aviation Capital, De Havilland Canada's parent company. "The quality of the aircraft is demonstrated by the fact that we have significantly outperformed our competitors since the onset of the pandemic, delivering 11 aircraft to customers in 2020. While industry conditions remain challenging, we are looking to the future by enhancing our ability to support Dash 8 operators, and taking the necessary organizational steps to ensure we are ready to meet industry demand as the aviation industry recovers."

Investing in the Dash 8 Platform

De Havilland Canada is introducing enhancements that will ensure the Dash 8 remains at the forefront of the regional aircraft market around the world:

  • Investing significant capital in the Customer Services and Support team, distribution network and information technology to reduce the operating cost of the Dash 8 platform
  • Developing upgrades and modifications to the Dash 8, including packages that create a best-in-class freighter with unmatched operating and financial attributes
  • Introducing cabin refurbishment features such as an overhead bin extension solution which improves the cost-efficiency of in-service Dash 8
  • Actively innovating across the aircraft platform, including product improvements that will reduce operating and ownership costs and help prepare Dash 8 fleets for the aviation industry's move to greater sustainability.

In addition to these investments, De Havilland Canada continues to provide 24/7/365 customer support, and inventory over 35,000 part numbers required to serve the operating fleet from parts distribution locations in Canada and around the globe.

New Aircraft Production Pause

Given that prevailing industry circumstances have hindered the ability to confirm new aircraft sales, De Havilland Canada will not produce new Dash 8-400 aircraft at its Downsview site beyond currently confirmed orders. This is a responsible and prudent measure that reflects current industry conditions, and will limit strain on the market and De Havilland Canada's supply base as the pandemic recovery occurs. Approximately 500 employees will be affected by the production pause.

De Havilland Canada's objective is to resume new aircraft delivery at the earliest possible time, subject to market demand.

Downsview Production Site

The Downsview production site was sold by the previous owner Bombardier in 2018, with deadlines for the site and runway to be decommissioned. Pursuant to Bombardier's sale agreement, the Dash 8 program's current site lease expires in 2021. Accordingly, De Havilland Canada has begun preparing to leave the site over the latter part of the year. There are a number of excellent production site options in Canada, and the company will be ready to meet new aircraft demand as the industry recovers.

Added Mr. Curtis: "The transition from Downsview is a step in the planned evolution of the Dash 8 platform away from its former owner, and is an important part of our vision for Longview Aviation Capital as a leading global aviation company. While this evolution is taking place against the backdrop of unprecedented industry circumstances, we see a bright future for De Havilland Canada and the Dash 8. The Dash 8 is a segment defining aircraft, and it has never been in better hands – strengthened by being part of a robust aviation portfolio with patient long-term ownership. We are also the only company to have successfully re-launched an out-of-production aircraft, with our team bringing the renowned Series 400 Twin Otter back into production. We are fully committed to the Dash 8 and intend to further enhance its capabilities and performance, and remain a leader of the regional aircraft market of the future.

"We are sensitive to the impact that a production pause will have on our employees, and are committed to treating everyone with transparency and respect. This decision is no reflection on the quality of our team, which has performed exceedingly well through the disruptions of the past year."

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Jet It Takes Flight to Canada – Private Aviation Disruptor Launches Canadian Company + Operations

TORONTO, Feb. 18, 2021 /CNW/ — Private aviation industry veterans, Glenn Gonzales and Vishal Hiremath – founders of Jet It, an innovative private jet company – are expanding their Harvard-studied business model by establishing Jet It Canada. After growing from a single jet and two employees to a fleet of ten airplanes and a workforce of 65 in the US, Jet It has incorporated Jet It in Canada and looks forward to becoming an active member of the local business community. 

IMG_9627_no_tag.jpg?p=publish&w=950 Jet It Takes Flight to Canada – Private Aviation Disruptor Launches Canadian Company + Operations

Jet It offers a fixed hourly rate of $2,200 CAD, with no additional reposition, fuel surcharge, or landing fees.

Now established in Canada, Jet It offers its white-glove private jet service throughout the country at a fixed hourly rate of $2,200 CAD, with no additional reposition, fuel surcharge, or landing fees. Jet It Canada owners can buy one-tenth to half of an aircraft, and through the Jet It day-based model, they’ll have an aircraft available to them for an entire day and only pay for the occupied time at that rate. 

Jet It has also aligned itself with one of Canada’s most widely respected private aviation companies -Skyservice Business Aviation – for its aircraft management and operations. “Skyservice is the premier operator in Canada with the best facilities, one of the largest managed fleets in North America and they have a focused commitment to service for the full range of their capabilities. They have an enthusiastic staff and an impeccable safety record spanning more than 35 years. As an aviation company run by Aviators, safety and service are our top priorities, and no one in Canada is better than Skyservice. We are honored to have Skyservice support our Canadian expansion,” says CEO Gonzales. 

With continued interest and sales already underway, Jet It has enlisted the support of Canadian aviation industry veteran Jeremi Austin to direct sales and operations in Canada. Austin, a licensed pilot, and aviator has successfully sold aircraft management and pre-owned aircraft from every OEM, as well as new Diamond and HondaJet aircraft.

Gonzales goes on to say that Austin “is an exceptional talent with over 20 years of industry experience. He has earned and maintained an incredible reputation throughout Canada and the US and we are very fortunate to have him introducing Jet It to Canada.”

In speaking about Jet It Canada, Austin says, “Canadians are looking for an economical rate and access to business aviation for the entire day. They want consistency at an expected price. The rapid growth of Jet It in the United States proves that Jet It is providing private travelers with a higher quality of life and with Jet It Canada this smart and refined way to travel is available to Canadians.”

Jet It Canada has already begun sales and expects to have its first C-registered aircraft in operation in the coming months. “The extension of Jet It operations from the US to Canada, and this month marking the beginning of operations in Europe through sister company JetClub, is a game-changer. The ability to travel between countries and continents and have the comfort of a known quantity that provides consistent and reasonably affordable transportation with an industry-leading level of service is an unmatched value. I am truly excited to bring the many benefits of Jet It and JetClub to fellow Canadians,” says Austin. 

 

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Amazing video: Nasa reveals new video from Mars Perseverance Rover - BBC News

Nasa reveals new video from Mars Perseverance Rover

The American space agency has released stunning video of its Perseverance rover landing on Mars.

Nasa sent Perseverance to Mars festooned with cameras, seven of which were dedicated to recording the landing.

Their imagery represents vital feedback for engineers as they look to improve still further the technologies used to put probes on the surface of the Red planet.

 

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Government of Canada launches new aircraft to improve conservation and protection of our oceans

February 19, 2021

St. John’s, NL – Fishery officers require state-of-the-art aerial surveillance equipment to continue the important work they conduct protecting Canada’s marine resources, ensuring compliance with fisheries management measures and enforcing the Fisheries Act from coast to coast to coast.

In 2019, Fisheries and Oceans Canada announced a five-year, $128 million contract with PAL Aerospace-located in St. John’s, to deliver a new fleet of four aerial surveillance aircrafts, including two long-range maritime patrol aircrafts. When operational, the planes will fly out of three bases of operation: St. John’s, Newfoundland and Labrador; Halifax, Nova Scotia; and a brand new facility in Campbell River, British Columbia.

Today, the first of our long-range maritime patrol aircraft—the Dash-8—becomes operational. The Dash-8 aircraft will allow our fishery officers to expand their range of operations, providing them with essential tools to combat illegal fishing and enhance Canada’s maritime security.

This new fleet of aerial surveillance aircraft will also be a crucial tool for the enforcement of measures put in place by the Government of Canada to protect our endangered whales. This includes monitoring the Gulf of St. Lawrence for compliance to fisheries management measures for North Atlantic right whales, as well as monitoring critical habitat areas for Southern Resident killer whales.

Dash-8 Photo credit: PAL Aerospace The first of Fisheries and Oceans Canada’s long-range maritime patrol aircraft—the Dash-8—becomes operational.
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Amazing video: Nasa reveals new video from Mars Perseverance Rover - BBC News

Nasa reveals new video from Mars Perseverance Rover

 
Nasa reveals new video from Mars Perseverance RoverClose
 

The American space agency has released stunning video of its Perseverance rover landing on Mars.

Nasa sent Perseverance to Mars festooned with cameras, seven of which were dedicated to recording the landing.

Their imagery represents vital feedback for engineers as they look to improve still further the technologies used to put probes on the surface of the Red planet.

 

I watched a documentary on Perseverence (I noticed it was spelled wrong during the documentary as well)  Amazing feat of engineering even far above it's predecessor.  

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4 minutes ago, boestar said:

I watched a documentary on Perseverence (I noticed it was spelled wrong during the documentary as well)  Amazing feat of engineering even far above it's predecessor.  

perseverance

 noun
per·se·ver·ance | \ ˌpər-sə-ˈvir-ən(t)s  \

Definition of perseverance

 

: continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure, or opposition : the action or condition or an instance of persevering : STEADFASTNESS
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14 minutes ago, Kargokings said:

perseverance

 noun
per·se·ver·ance | \ ˌpər-sə-ˈvir-ən(t)s  \

Definition of perseverance

 

: continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure, or opposition : the action or condition or an instance of persevering : STEADFASTNESS

....even though, in some instances little, if anything, important is attainedScreenShot003.jpg.d81733da00f30f5f302e51bf3e6a08dc.jpg

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16 hours ago, Kargokings said:

perseverance

 noun
per·se·ver·ance | \ ˌpər-sə-ˈvir-ən(t)s  \

Definition of perseverance

 

: continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure, or opposition : the action or condition or an instance of persevering : STEADFASTNESS

yes you are correct.  I (and apparently many others) have always spelled it Perserverence.  I suppose I should have looked it up but it is how I have always spelled it and have never been corrected.

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