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What strikes me as significant is that Venezuela should be one of the richest countries in the world.  Caracas should be similar to Dubai.  Instead there are shortages of basic consumer commodities, high child mortality, poverty, hyperinflation, malnutrition, high rates of serious crime and over 3 million people have fled the country in the last few years.

If socialism can't be made to work in a country that actually has the resources to support expensive social programs how could it ever be made to work in poor countries?

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Canada will need more electricity capacity if it wants to hit its climate targets, according to a new report from a global energy agency. The International Energy Agency (IEA) report, released Thursday morning, offers mainly a rosy picture of Canada's overall federal energy policy. But the IEA draws attention to Canada's increasing future electricity demands and ultimately calls on Canada to leverage its non-emitting energy potential to hit its climate targets. The IEA notes that Canada has one of the cleanest energy grids globally, with 83 per cent of electricity coming from non-emitting sources in 2020. But the report warns this is not a reason for Canada to rest on its laurels. More electricity will be needed to displace fossil fuels if Canada wants to hit its 2030 targets, the report states, and "even deeper cuts" will be required to reach net-zero by 2050. "Perhaps more significantly, however, Canada will need to ensure sufficient new clean generation capacity to meet the sizeable levels of electrification that its net-zero targets imply."  Read more on this story.


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Looks like someone will want our oil and perhaps pay even world market prices. 

IEA head says Canadian oil can be part of transition if it gets cleaner

By Staff  The Canadian Press
Posted January 13, 2022 3:33 pm

The executive director of the International Energy Agency says Canadian oil and gas can be part of the transition to a clean-energy future if the industry can cut its carbon footprint.70c8fc80

A new IEA report on Canada’s energy industries praises the country for pushing toward net-zero emissions by 2050 but warns the challenge facing Canada as an oil and gas-producing country is immense.

READ MORE: Oil companies ask Canada to pay for 75% of carbon capture facilities

IEA executive director Fatih Birol says the estimate is there will still be about 25 million barrels of oil needed daily in 2050, down from about 100 million today.

Birol says he wants that oil to be supplied by reliable countries like Canada that invest to produce it more cleanly.

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David Staples: How did Alberta survive wicked cold snap? Thanks for nothing, solar power

David Staples, Edmonton Journal  25 mins ago© Provided by Edmonton Journal Six hundred solar panels have been installed on the roof of of the Southland Leisure Centre in Calgary.
Old school green activists like Canada’s new Environment and Climate Change Minister Steven Guilbeault fantasize about a world powered by solar and wind energy.

But just how would that utopian green vision play out during the coldest days of the Canadian winter?

For example, how close would a solar and wind-dependent power grid have come to giving us the electricity we needed during the three-week freeze in Alberta where the average temperature was -22 C from Dec. 15 to Jan. 9?

Alberta sleuth Ian Mackay, an oilfield information technology specialist in Lacombe, has the answer. Mackay scrapes data from the website of the Alberta Electric System Operator (AESO), a not-for-profit organization that manages and works with industry to operate the provincial power grid.

Alberta needs a supply of about 10,500 MW (megawatts) on average, said Mackay. If they are running at maximum capacity, solar can provide 736 MW and wind 2,269 MW.

Sounds impressive, right? That’s about 30 per cent of Alberta’s electrical power needs. But during Alberta’s recent biting cold days, solar ran at just 2.64 per cent of maximum capacity, the amount each panel would produce if it operated at full efficiency around the clock each day.

 %7BAlberta power sources during recent cold snap

As for wind, it ran at 29.5 per cent of maximum capacity.

If we had been reliant on far more solar and wind, how would we have done?

“You’d have to start with rolling blackouts or brownouts,” Mackay said. “If we lost the bulk of our generation, there’d be a lot of people dying.”

But, of course, good, old reliable fossil fuels came to the rescue. Alberta’s gas generators, which have the capacity to produce 10,166 MW, operated at 71 per cent. Coal, which can now produce a maximum of 1,729 MW, operated at 87.5 per cent.

In total, during the three bitter weeks, gas provided 69.7 per cent of our power, coal 18.7 per cent, wind 6.4 per cent, biomass 2.7 per cent, hydro 1.6 per cent, dual fuel (coal-gas co-generation) 0.7 per cent, and solar just 0.1 per cent.

Thanks for nothing, solar power.

Mackay is a fan of solar power for some applications, just not when it comes to providing base load power, the kind needed to power a modern, prosperous consumer and industrial economy.

“I think solar is great for a lot of things,” he said, mentioning its utility for camping and cabins. “I just don’t think it’s great for powering a province.”

Mackay started to scrape power data about eight years ago to better understand how wind power impacted the power grid. Five years ago, he created a Twitter account, @ReliableAB , to publish the numbers every hour, with the tweets generated automatically.

Government seems more attuned to what people want to hear, rather than going on facts, Mackay said, so his goal is to present a constant flow of facts for people. “They can make up their own mind and conduct some critical thinking.

“Hopefully we will get more honesty from government that way. Everything seems so lop-sided to me. We constantly hear that Alberta has the greatest opportunity for solar generation because we have as much sun here as some places in Florida. But that’s obviously not true when you look at generation charts over the course of the winter. It just doesn’t happen.”

Wind usually averages about 38 per cent of maximum capacity, while solar averages 15 to 18 per cent, Mackay said.

Coal and gas averages fluctuate as their plants are powered up and down to make up for the unreliability of the wind blowing and the sun shining.

Mackay isn’t and doesn’t claim to be an expert on power regulation, generation or pricing. He can’t speak to the overall economics of these various power sources, but it’s evident to him that there’s no way right now Alberta can get by without gas, and that whatever solar and wind we have, we need to have to able to instantly replace all their capacity when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow if we want to have reliable power.

When advocates for solar power like Guilbeault now argue we should let the market decide on solar and wind versus gas or nuclear, they conveniently leave out this fact, this gargantuan cost to having a complete and highly efficient backup system in place to stand in for iffy renewable sources.

But some power source must turn on our lights and charge our cellphones.

For now, in Alberta, it’s mainly gas and coal, and after the hardship of this last cold spell I can only give thanks to our reliable energy and worry about the current infatuation with unreliable renewables.



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The following article will of course raise the question re why the prices are so high and why can we not get reduced prices. 

1. As the title of this thread states, you don't want our oil so why the hell would you expect to reap it's benefits? 🙃 However all Canadians will share some of the benefits due to the increased federal tax revenue.

2. As a Province we may achieve a balanced budget from this new money and then be able to afford more benefits and jobs for our citizens, along with those who commute here from other provinces to work. (win / win) for all.

3. Re the cost, that is of course based on the world market. At the retail end, it varies greatly from Province to Province, City to City.


Canadian oil and gas producers are awash in cash for the first time in years, thanks to crude prices that have surged back to multi-year highs after their collapse early in the pandemic. Revenues are expected to reach record levels this year if oil prices stay high, coming on the heels of a long stretch of belt-tightening and spending restraint across the industry. The sting of a sharp downturn in the spring of 2020 is now largely in the rear-view mirror, as industry leaders find themselves in the enviable position of deciding what to do with the money gushing into company coffers. Analysts, investors, politicians and climate-focused groups are now watching to see what companies will do with the cash, particularly to see if they will use it to boost their production, cut their emissions, reduce their debt or increase their dividends and share buybacks. Read the full story here.



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Environmentalists claim that by opposing the Coastal GasLink pipeline, they are supporting local Indigenous people.

They will never tell you that ALL of the elected band councils along the pipeline's route support the project.


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5 minutes ago, Jaydee said:

Environmentalists claim that by opposing the Coastal GasLink pipeline, they are supporting local Indigenous people.

They will never tell you that ALL of the elected band councils along the pipeline's route support the project.


The only ones who are against are some "Traditional Chiefs" (non elected of course).  

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