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Thanks, so the US one is still a work in progress.  However have you done any work comparing the 2 as far as emissions go today?

 

The reason I ask is that it appears the US rules may relax their present restrictions. Yet the text you posted said it was possible that the refinery was moving to Canada because our restriction were less but .......

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The EPA did not take into consideration a recent analysis by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) which concluded that ethylene oxide is far less hazardous than the EPA determined in 2016, the federal agency says. That’s because the TCEQ hazard evaluation wasn’t peer reviewed in time for the EPA to consider it, the agency adds. The EPA was under a court-ordered deadline to issue the rule.

But the EPA leaves open the possibility that it could change its ethylene oxide hazards calculations in light of the TCEQ analysis, a move that could lead to less-stringent emission controls on the gas. The EPA has not yet responded to a 2018 request from the American Chemistry Council (ACC), an association of chemical manufacturers, to revise the federal cancer-risk estimates for ethylene oxide. EPA says it will address the ACC request soon.

 

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Whichever way you look at it, it always comes down to follow the money.

That raises the question as to why the move to Canada?  It it tax advantages?  Is Alberta going to give better incentives than the U.S. locations?  Is the demand for ethylene growing in Canada or is this mainly for export?

As seen in the past, corporations will always move their operations to more profitable locations.

That is why I question the motives for increasing the production of a hazardous substance in Fort Saskatchewan.

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2 hours ago, deicer said:

Whichever way you look at it, it always comes down to follow the money.

That raises the question as to why the move to Canada?  It it tax advantages?  Is Alberta going to give better incentives than the U.S. locations?  Is the demand for ethylene growing in Canada or is this mainly for export?

As seen in the past, corporations will always move their operations to more profitable locations.

That is why I question the motives for increasing the production of a hazardous substance in Fort Saskatchewan.

You must be taking lessons in non answers from Justin. ?

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What about Canada? Why are our gas prices so high right now?

 
 
 

Taxes.

 
 
 

Do you know how much 87 gasoline would cost right now in Alberta absent of government tax?

 
 
 

About $1-1.02/litre.

 

https://www.tannerhnidey.com/post/gas_prices_opec_canada?fbclid=IwAR0_nu8IGYHNVmp8UHe0hVSO7UWlGZLj5ccF9bSE_kgerlG8EkdhtzCT-FM

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There were a number of folks on this forum agreed with the title:

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Sorry Albertans, stuff your fossil fuel

Now some of the same folks are upset with the current and coming prices of Gas, Propane etc and are wondering why they can not get lower prices in Canada for a Canadian Made product.  Go figure. 🙃

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I buy the majority of my gas at a reservation when at all possible. Filled up 9 fuel containers last week. Saved an average .20 - .25. / litre. Trudeau can take his carbon tax and shove it you know where.

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Killing the Golden Goose :head:


“ Elites running Canada seem to hate what this country is”

It’s becoming clear that much of Canada’s ruling class hate who we are as a country

The thought has been with me for a little while now, a sense that the people at the top wish Canada were somehow fundamentally different.

 

The thought was confirmed as accurate with the election of Calgary’s new mayor Jyoti Gondek and the commitments made by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the United Nations climate summit.

Shortly after being elected as mayor of the centre of Canada’s oil and gas industry, Gondek said in an interview that the city needed to “move past” oil and gas. It’s one thing to say the city needs to prepare for a transition, it’s another to say they need to move past the most vital industry in the city’s economy.

Of course, Mayor Gondek is simply in line with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who should be looking out for the whole country, including the economic interests of the whole country — but this week Trudeau made clear that’s not part of his agenda.

We’ll cap oil and gas sector emissions today and ensure they decrease tomorrow at a pace and scale needed to reach net zero by 2050,” Trudeau said this week in Glasgow, Scotland.

He boasted that Canada was the first major oil and gas producer to bring in hard emissions caps and encourage other producing countries to do the same.

 

Newly-elected Calgary Mayor Jyoti Gondek and outgoing Mayor Naheed Nenshi pose for a photo on Tuesday, October 19, 2021. Newly-elected Calgary Mayor Jyoti Gondek and outgoing Mayor Naheed Nenshi pose for a photo on Tuesday, October 19, 2021. PHOTO BY GAVIN YOUNG /Postmedia Network

It’s doubtful they will. OPEC nations are being asked to boost production by none other than U.S. President Joe Biden — the guy Trudeau can’t meet with — and China continues to boost its coal use.

“Desperate to meet its electricity needs, China is opening up new coal production exceeding what all of western Europe mines in a year, at a tremendous cost to the global effort to fight climate change,” read a feature piece in the New York Times last week.

Canada could be helping to reduce China’s emissions by selling them and India our natural gas as a replacement for coal, but that’s not on the Trudeau agenda.

Their goal is less fossil fuels from Canada, period.

Not that Trudeau’s commitments at COP26 were enough for Elizabeth May.

The off-again, on-again leader of the Green party was quick to complain that Trudeau wasn’t shutting down Canada’s oil industry fast enough.

She wants the federal government to bring in a cap on oil production for Canada as a way to lower emissions. Trudeau’s new environment minister and former Greenpeace activist Steven Guilbeault explained the federal government can’t do that because provinces are in charge of natural resources under the constitution.

That’s not idle speculation. The man was part of a group organized to stop the “tarsands” that took a lot of money from American billionaires and foundations to support their work. This is the thinking of the woke elite who run much of Canada: an industry that provides funding for many of the government programs they run simply isn’t needed.

These are people who look at what Canada is and wish the place was better, more to their liking and definitely not with any of those undesirable industries.

It’s time Canada looked at them, wished we had better leadership and they did something about that.

blilley@postmedia.com

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Trudeau’s carbon cred at COP26 is nothing to write home about

” Trudeau opined, “What a strong carbon price does, when it’s properly designed, is actually drive those price signals to the private sector, transform the economy and support citizens in encouraging them to make better choices.” But does it?  In a study of 12 high-income OECD countries,  the Fraser Institute found that, on average, 74 per cent of carbon-tax revenues went directly into general revenues, 12 per cent were earmarked for environmental spending and only 14 per cent were returned to taxpayers as rebates. While the Canadian version returns 90 per cent of revenues to citizens, business understandably complain that the remainder does not compensate them for their increased energy costs, which will be inevitably passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices. “ 

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/tasha-kheiriddin-trudeaus-carbon-cred-at-cop26-is-nothing-to-write-home-about

 

“ Carbon taxes have been a massive failure, Fraser report study finds “ 
 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-carbon-taxes-have-been-a-massive-failure-fraser-report

 


 

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Totally unrealistic,” Kenney slams Trudeau’s pledge to cap oil and gas sector

Alberta Premier Jason Kenney is hitting back after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau pledged to cap emissions in Canada’s oil and gas sector earlier this week while in Glasgow, Scotland for the COP26 summit. 

Kenney stated that Trudeau’s commitments did not have the support of Alberta, which produces most of Canada’s energy. 

According to the Canadian Press, Kenney told reporters that Trudeau’s pledge was “devastating” and “unrealistic.” 

“I don’t know why they would make such an announcement without consulting the province with the most oil and gas reserves in Canada,” Kenney said.

The (federal government) has zero chance of achieving its greenhouse gas reduction goals without Alberta’s oil and gas industries. Let’s be a partner in that.”

“Their approach seems to be, well it’s totally unrealistic, and their approach, if they were to actually achieve their targets without using these transition technologies, would be devastating to the entire global economy,” he continued. 
 

On Monday, Trudeau stated that Canada would limit oil and gas emissions until they reach net zero by 2050. 

“We will limit oil and gas sector emissions today and ensure they decrease tomorrow at the speed and scale needed to reach net zero by 2050,” Trudeau told global leaders. 

“This is no small task for a major oil and gas producing country. This is a big step which is absolutely necessary.”

In response to Trudeau’s speech, Kenney stated that the government should work in concert with Alberta to develop resources for carbon-capture technology and other innovations like blue hydrogen. 

Kenney also reiterated his pledge to work with the federal government on carbon-reduction initiatives but not to go along with any policy aimed at suppressing Alberta oil development. 

Reports have shown that Prime Minister Trudeau’s federal carbon tax has failed to reduce carbon emissions. 

Last year, Department of Environment government data showed that in 2018 – a year after the carbon tax was implemented – emissions in Canada actually grew by 15 million tonnes. 

 


 

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His approval numbers make Trudeau and Biden look good.  Why would you trust him?

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/kenney-s-approval-drops-to-22-per-cent-lowest-among-canadian-premiers-1.5621923

Kenney's approval drops to 22 per cent, lowest among Canadian premiers

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-premier-oil-and-gas-claims-fact-check-1.5737762

A lot of Jason Kenney's claims about the oil and gas industry are cherry-picked, misleading or wrong

 

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7 minutes ago, Jaydee said:

Nothing more than Covid fatigue…this too shall pass 

If you say so, however, if he continues like he is he won't be garnering more votes.  

https://albertapolitics.ca/2021/08/nurses-protest-while-kenney-government-doubles-down-on-hard-line-post-pandemic-bargaining-strategy/

NURSES PROTEST WHILE KENNEY GOVERNMENT DOUBLES DOWN ON HARD-LINE POST-PANDEMIC BARGAINING STRATEGY

But hey, the oil and gas subsidies are still rolling in.

https://thenarwhal.ca/canada-pipelines-financing-iisd-2021/

https://environmentaldefence.ca/report/doubling-down-with-taxpayer-dollars/#:~:text=In the last three fiscal,research grants and direct subsidies.

In the last three fiscal years, the government of Alberta has provided $4.8 billion in subsidies to the oil, gas and coal industries through a series of tax incentives, royalty holidays, research grants and direct subsidies.

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30 years ago Quebec, then Alberta, now Saskatchewan….Trudeau won’t be happy until Canada no longer exists.

Sask. premier says its time for province to 'determine own destiny'

OTTAWA -- Saskatchewan’s premier says it's time for the province to flex its provincial muscles.

“We’re going to have to make every effort to determine our own destiny,” Scott Moe told Joyce Napier on CTV’s Power Play Tuesday. “What we see coming from the federal government is not consultation.”

Moe said the federal government did not consult provincial officials on the promises made at the United Nations climate conference COP26, where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau promised to put a cap on oil and gas emissions and slash oil and gas methane emissions by at least 75 per cent by 2030.

Moe tweeted out Tuesday that “Saskatchewan needs to be a nation within a nation” and that the province needs to stand up for itself when the federal government implements detrimental policies.

He told CTV’s Power Play that the province will “make every effort to take up every jurisdictional place that we have" to ensure the province is treated fairly by the federal government.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/sask-premier-says-its-time-for-province-to-determine-own-destiny-1.5659199?fbclid=IwAR0QuzQEQcoQKWiFcRR7evjdDxqfWnGco7C_Wg8xNYFGFmeO16vaEgY0T6o

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How much green pain will Canadians tolerate? 

Canada can indulge in costly virtue-signalling and moral gestures — up to a point. But it cannot afford to live beyond its means indefinitely

 

“ Prime Minister Trudeau and many premiers will not have the intellectual honesty to concede their policies are ineffectual and will reduce our  standard of living and endanger our security and national unity. Candour would produce a political backlash that would undermine public support for green initiatives and imperil their own political survival.
 

So instead we are treated to shameless misrepresentation and mindless self-harm.”

 

https://financialpost.com/opinion/how-much-green-pain-will-canadians-tolerate?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2_RR6fWe1D-teLswY1kAoxPi5xcHltYEeVcUJorwf_URjtC7O_doY2FTM#Echobox=1637062021

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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/07/wind-energy-giant-siemens-gamesa-claims-world-first-in-blade-recycling.html

Wind turbine giant Siemens Gamesa claims world-first in blade recycling

PUBLISHED TUE, SEP 7 202110:15 AM EDTUPDATED TUE, SEP 7 202110:27 AM EDT
KEY POINTS
  • Siemens Gamesa claims its RecyclableBlades are “the world’s first recyclable wind turbine blades ready for commercial use offshore.”
  • Firm says it will work with German utility RWE to install and pilot the blades at the Kaskasi offshore wind farm

 

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