Guest Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Multiple injuries reported as Air Canada flight makes emergency landing in Honolulu https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/air-canada-flight-makes-emergency-landing-with-multiple-injuries-1.4504071 CTV Montreal StaffPublished Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:56PM EDT Last Updated Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:43PM EDT An Air Canada flight from Toronto to Sydney, Australia, with a stop in Vancouver, made an emergency landing in Honolulu on Thursday. Air Canada Flight 33 was two hours west of Hawaii when it encountered unexpected severe turbulence over the Pacific Ocean. The plane then turned and requested an emergency landing in Honolulu, touching down at 6:45 a.m. Hawaiian Time (12:45 EDT). A source familiar with the situation tells CTV News that 20 to 25 passengers and one crew member were injured as a result. Many of the people hurt have head and neck injuries. In a statement Air Canada said that the injuries were considered minor and that medical personnel were examining the passengers. "We are currently making arrangements for the passengers including hotel accommodations and meals in Honolulu, as well as options for resumption of the flight," said a spokesperson. The plane was a Boeing 777 with 269 passengers and 15 crew members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsplat Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 I love this. 'without knowing the specifics...this area is known for turbulence'. So, without knowing anything, this is what is known. BS. These people who cannot wait to get their face in front of a camera are an embarrassment. Without knowing the specifics, the message should be, wait for the facts, thoughts for the passengers and crew. Full stop. Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Flight aware showing it was cruising around 9000 meters or so. Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick said the plane was about two hours past Hawaii when it hit "severe clear air" turbulence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIP Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Marshall said: Flight aware showing it was cruising around 9000 meters or so. Air Canada spokesperson Peter Fitzpatrick said the plane was about two hours past Hawaii when it hit "severe clear air" turbulence Outisde of China, altitudes are measured in feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, AIP said: Outisde of China, altitudes are measured in feet. And your point is? We all know the ICAO standard is used for International flight plans bu FlightAware reports that the flight had Speed Filed: 906 km/h Altitude Filed: 9,150 m About FlightAware FlightAware is a digital aviation company and operates the world's largest flight tracking and data platform. With global connectivity to every segment of aviation, FlightAware provides over 10,000 aircraft operators and service providers as well as over 12,000,000 passengers with global flight tracking solutions, predictive technology, analytics, and decision-making tools. FlightAware receives data from air traffic control systems in over 45 countries, FlightAware's network of ADS-B ground stations in 195 countries, Aireon global space-based global ADS-B, and datalink (satellite/VHF) via every major provider, including ARINC, SITA, Satcom Direct, Garmin, and Honeywell GoDirect. FlightAware's HyperFeed® engine seamlessly fuses thousands of real-time, global data sources with FlightAware’s proprietary AI models and algorithms. Leveraging this data with FlightAware's powerful, intuitive, responsive, and reliable web-based interfaces and APIs yields the world’s most comprehensive, capable, and useful flight tracking and digital aviation data platform. Founded in 2005, FlightAware is privately held with offices in Houston, New York City, and Singapore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pulman Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I’m always amused how turbulence is blamed for injuries when in reality not wearing a seatbelt is really the culprit. In another article on this incident I read that most of the injured were in “first class” and I wonder how many people buckle up when fully reclined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I always leave my belt on even when sleeping fully reclined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 A good reminder to not spend too much time out of your seat or let your kids run loose up and down the aisles. I wonder if this was worse than expected along their route or without any warning? Pacific crossings can be nasty sometimes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Time to add some shock therapy into the safety demo. Run a few clips of people flying through the cabin in similar conditions. Yes, I'm kidding but it's like people don't pay attention to such stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, J.O. said: Time to add some shock therapy into the safety demo. Run a few clips of people flying through the cabin in similar conditions. Yes, I'm kidding but it's like people don't pay attention to such stories. The same folks don't pay attention to the safety demo / video either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, J.O. said: Time to add some shock therapy into the safety demo. Run a few clips of people flying through the cabin in similar conditions. Yes, I'm kidding but it's like people don't pay attention to such stories. Actually not a bad idea. Any injured passenger on this flight will certainly have a different attitude about future seatbelt use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, blues deville said: Actually not a bad idea. Any injured passenger on this flight will certainly have a different attitude about future seatbelt use. sadly their first thought might be to sue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, blues deville said: Pacific crossings can be nasty sometimes . My first flight to Hawaii was probably the most uncomfortable I have ever been in my life. When we stumbled off the plane at HNL a lot of people just sat down at the gate till the fluid in our ears settled down. The last 90 minutes of the flight felt like being inside a dryer with a cinderblock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Super 80 said: My first flight to Hawaii was probably the most uncomfortable I have ever been in my life. When we stumbled off the plane at HNL a lot of people just sat down at the gate till the fluid in our ears settled down. The last 90 minutes of the flight felt like being inside a dryer with a cinderblock. Reminds me of this scene. "Chunky industrial waste puke". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 For what it's worth and hoping I've have done the GMT math correctly here is a screen grab of the turnaround point and the appropriate SIG WXX chart. Certainly not the best predictor of potential CAT but it seems to be fairly benign wxx SW of HNL. Reports say the CAT was sudden and not anticipated I suppose wake turbulence from nearby aircraft will be investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 hours ago, boestar said: I always leave my belt on even when sleeping fully reclined Me Too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 TSB tried a shocking video after the last 777 severe turbulence event. I guess it didn't convince too many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILB Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, JL said: TSB tried a shocking video after the last 777 severe turbulence event. I guess it didn't convince too many people. Great video. In 25 years of flying, I've never experienced severe turbulence, and I hope I never do. I've gone down to 25 to get below SIGMETed areas of forecasted SVR TBC. Sometimes that's not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Johnboy said: For what it's worth and hoping I've have done the GMT math correctly here is a screen grab of the turnaround point and the appropriate SIG WXX chart. Certainly not the best predictor of potential CAT but it seems to be fairly benign wxx SW of HNL. Reports say the CAT was sudden and not anticipated I suppose wake turbulence from nearby aircraft will be investigated. Some very high cloud activity along their route. Isolated and imbedded CB’s. A great combination at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Simple question....was the belt sign ON or OFF??? I haven’t read anything in the media reports to indicate.....if it was ON, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, st27 said: Simple question....was the belt sign ON or OFF??? I haven’t read anything in the media reports to indicate.....if it was ON, end of story. This is from the AVherald, in the comments area of their coverage: Quote Long haul flight and has been recommended by health care professionals, you need to move around periodically to prevent the very real danger of DVT. Paxs interviewed in Honolulu said the seat belt sign was off, smooth skies and the cockpit announced "take your seats and seatbelts on". As one pax said, no sooner had the announcement ended, then they dropped as the turbulence hit. Perhaps this is one instance where we don't need to blame anyone? I've yet to meet a single person who hasn't left their seat at some point on Aussie flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Perhaps the last second seat belt and PA were a late response to something in their path. At that latitude you’ve to got to respect any kind of WX radar return and give lots of room. I’ve always used UAL’s recommended cloud above 25,000 gets 25 miles as starting point. FMC artwork is handy for the decision process and you can see which way they are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIP Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Looks like Emirates had a turbulence encounter of their own this week, with the A380. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/emirates-flight-turbulence-passenger-injuries-auckland-dubai-plane-a9004966.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Went through it once LAS-YVR. The whole flight was a bit choppy but the only two people that were not buckled in were the two F/A's at the back. Both were pretty beat up after. One removed the e-light above the lav door with her butt. We got into clear air and I cleaned up the galley and got them both buckled in for landing. I was doing the mtce rider thing so was half asleep (buckled in) at row 20'ish when it happened. I had some light bruising on my hips from the jolt but nothing more. WEAR YOUR SEATBELT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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