deicer Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Must be fun when you aren't carrying self loading luggage! Video is best full screen. https://www.aviation24.be/air-shows/paris-air-show/us-air-force-boeing-kc-46-makes-an-unusual-landing-at-le-bourget-ahead-of-the-paris-air-show-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Foxtrot Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Anybody complaining is just jealous. Must be fun to actually get to fly the airplane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Fun to fly but that approach and landing wasn’t airshow worthy. Boeing doesn’t need anymore help with aircraft sales. 1. Overshot the turn to final. 2. Touched down hard off the the centerline 3. Excessive braking only to power up again exiting. Other than that it was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 And on the tape, “Hold my beer and watch this” was heard at 500’ AGL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I see the aircraft is "AirForce", were the pilots also AirForce or Boeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Marshall said: I see the aircraft is "AirForce", were the pilots also AirForce or Boeing? That’s a good question. The tow crew appeared to be in USAF garb however Boeing does supply training pilots for all new aircraft operators. If this was a pair of USAF pilots and they did that in the heat of battle I’d have to give them full marks for execution and mission accomplished. The issue here is that tanker still looks like an airliner and stabilized approach criteria is a huge deal these days with most airlines. It would have been a go-around or a working lunch with the Chief Pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 11:52 AM, blues deville said: Fun to fly but that approach and landing wasn’t airshow worthy. Boeing doesn’t need anymore help with aircraft sales. 1. Overshot the turn to final. 2. Touched down hard off the the centerline 3. Excessive braking only to power up again exiting. Other than that it was perfect. Any landing that is discussed afterward in the mess is "perfect" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Maybe there was an issue with the aircraft and they needed to get her on the ground quick. Not sure they would publicize that at the PAris Air Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 4 hours ago, boestar said: Maybe there was an issue with the aircraft and they needed to get her on the ground quick. Not sure they would publicize that at the PAris Air Show. Apparently the story is it was a Lt.-Col. from a US base in Germany where the aircraft was based. Perhaps someone more current should have flown the arrival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, blues deville said: Perhaps someone more current should have flown the arrival? Or someone "older" lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, blues deville said: Apparently the story is it was an Lt.-Col. from a US base in Germany where the aircraft was based. Perhaps someone more current should have flown the arrival? The existence of the USAF's fleet of operational MiGs came to be public knowledge when a Lt. General took a MiG-23 for a joyride and promptly crashed it. The death of a Lt. General was pretty hard to cover-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 This is not the first time a senior officer has stretched the SOPs or taken a ”can do” attitude to an extreme conclusion: On Friday, 24 June 1994, a United States Air Force (USAF) Boeing B-52 Stratofortress crashed at Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington, United States,[1] after its pilot, Lieutenant Colonel Arthur "Bud" Holland, maneuvered the bomber beyond its operational limits and lost control. The B-52 stalled, fell to the ground and exploded, killing Holland and the three other field-grade officers on board the aircraft. In addition, one person on the ground suffered injuries during the accident, but survived. The crash was captured on video and was shown repeatedly on news broadcasts throughout the world.[2][3] 1994 Fairchild Air Force Base B-52 crash The B-52, a fraction of a second before it crashed. Co-pilot McGeehan's escape hatch, jettisoned during his attempt to eject, is visible near the tip of the vertical stabilizer. Accident Date 24 June 1994 Summary Pilot error lead to stall Site Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington, U.S. 47.6105°N 117.6505°W Aircraft Aircraft type B-52H Stratofortress Aircraft name Czar 52 Operator United States Air Force Registration Passengers 0 Crew 4 Fatalities 4 Injuries 1 (on ground) Survivors The subsequent investigation concluded that the crash was attributable primarily to three factors: Holland's personality and behavior; USAF leaders' delayed or inadequate reactions to earlier incidents involving Holland; and the sequence of events during the aircraft's final flight. The crash is now used in military and civilian aviation environments as a case study in teaching crew resource management. It is also often used by the U.S. Armed Forces during aviation safety training as an example of the importance of complying with safety regulations and correcting the behavior of anyone who violates safety procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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