AAS Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 I didn’t know this. How much of a difference did it make in their Vmcg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Where is the reference for the comments above.??? As far as the numbers go, ( aircraft speed differences), one would have to have the T/O charts, to ascertain placarded speeds, based on weight etc for both the BWIA aircraft and the "normal" L1011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 as far as I was aware the only ones with a design difference were the PCA ones (eventually Worldways). Those however were -100 variants I believe. The -250 and -500 did have design differences. In the post above the BWIA is a -500 ini the other one a -250 or a -500 both had the "Frizbee" ahead of the #2 engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, boestar said: In the post above the BWIA is a -500 ini the other one a -250 or a -500 both had the "Frizbee" ahead of the #2 engine. Yeh, they are both -500. LUZ Air only had two, both -500. The rudder is slightly bigger on the BWIA because they ordered it that way. Initially they arrived as any other -500 but their BWIA chief of OPs noticed the difference and they went back and were modified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 1 hour ago, boestar said: as far as I was aware the only ones with a design difference were the PCA ones (eventually Worldways). Those however were -100 variants I believe. The -250 and -500 did have design differences. I think you mean PSA vs.PCA. I personally never saw the lower lounge on Worldway’s L1011s but I’ve heard some ‘stories’. Apparently young jet-lagged flight and cabin crews+alcohol=Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Kip Powick said: The rudder is slightly bigger on the BWIA I had never imagined that a bigger rudder would be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 18 hours ago, blues deville said: I think you mean PSA vs.PCA. I personally never saw the lower lounge on Worldway’s L1011s but I’ve heard some ‘stories’. Apparently young jet-lagged flight and cabin crews+alcohol=Bad Sorry Yes PSA. These were all specially modified for gateless walk on walk off operations. Just a really big regional jet of the era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, boestar said: Sorry Yes PSA. These were all specially modified for gateless walk on walk off operations. Just a really big regional jet of the era It seems that Lockheed has always been ahead of the curve with their aircraft designs starting with the Constellations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAS Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 I rode YYZ ACY in the lower lounge. I never saw the stairs down. Hear they were scared of them getting damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I didn’t work for Worldways but have many friends who did. I had forgotten where some of those planes came from but was told on several deadheading crew flights at the end of some seasonal routes (ex:LGW-YYZ) they lower deck models were a flying party palace. Have been sworn to secrecy on the stories!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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