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Pakistan says it downed 2 Indian warplanes, captured pilot

India says it foiled Pakistani attack over disputed Kashmir region



The Associated Press · Posted: Feb 27, 2019 1:48 AM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago
Pakistani soldiers stand next to what Pakistan says is the wreckage of an Indian fighter jet shot down in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. (STR/AFP/Getty Images)


Pakistan's air force shot down two Indian warplanes after they crossed the boundary between the two nuclear-armed rivals in the disputed territory of Kashmir on Wednesday, the country's chief military spokesperson said.

"There is only one pilot under Pakistan Army's custody," Maj.-Gen. Asif Ghafoor said Wednesday in a tweet above a photograph apparently showing the captured pilot, who was shot down earlier in the day after responding to a Pakistani airstrike in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

It was previously reported two pilots were in custody. One of the two was wounded.

An army official who could not be identified under briefing rules said the confusion came from soldiers on the ground. While two planes were shot down, he said one pilot landed inside Pakistani-controlled Kashmir and the other on the Indian side of the disputed border.

Despite Geneva Convention rules prohibiting the public display of prisoners, the military circulated a video of the Indian pilot, who was recorded saying he was being well treated. He also praised Pakistan's military.

Pakistan's Ministry of Information and Broadcasting released what it says is the wreckage of the Indian planes.

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Wreckages of Indian fighter planes burning. Well done Pakistan Air Force. The entire nation is proud of you.


The dramatic escalation came hours after Pakistan said mortar shells fired by Indian troops from across the frontier dividing the two sectors of Kashmir killed six civilians and wounded several others.

Ghafoor struck a conciliatory tone. "We have no intention of escalation, but are fully prepared to do so if forced into that paradigm," he added.


India later said it lost a combat jet and the pilot was missing while it foiled an attack by Pakistan military planes over the disputed region of Kashmir.

An Indian Foreign Ministry spokesman said Indian planes engaged with the Pakistan aircraft and brought one of them down.

"In this engagement, we have unfortunately lost one MiG 21. The pilot is missing in action. Pakistan has claimed that he is in their custody. We are ascertaining the facts," Raveesh Kumar told reporters.

Pakistan has not said anything about losing any of its planes, while Prime Minister Imran Khan called for talks with India and hoped "better sense" would prevail to de-escalate the dispute with its nuclear-armed neighbour.

"History tells us that wars are full of miscalculation. My question is that given the weapons we have can we afford miscalculation," Khan said during a brief televised broadcast to the nation. "We should sit down and talk."

Airspace closed, bodies recovered from crashed helicopter

Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority said it shut Pakistani airspace to all commercial flights on Wednesday, without elaborating or indicating when the flights might resume. It was not clear if the shutdown applied to commercial overflights.

Indian news reports said airports in the Indian portion of Kashmir closed for civilian traffic shortly after the air force jet crashed. The Press Trust of India news agency said these airports were located at Srinagar, Jammu and Leh.

Indian administrator Baseer Khan confirmed that the airport in Srinagar, the main city in Indian-controlled Kashmir, was closed and said it was a "temporary and precautionary measure." Press Trust of India said two airports in northern Punjab state, which borders Pakistan, were also closed.

Indian police also said officials recovered six bodies from the wreckage of an Indian Air Force helicopter that crashed in Indian-controlled sector of Kashmir.

Senior police officer Munir Ahmed Khan said the chopper crashed close to an airport on Wednesday in Budgam area, in the outskirts of the region's main city of Srinagar. The Srinagar airport is also an air force station.

Police said they were still going through the wreckage and did not immediately identify the victims. Local residents earlier said they saw three bodies at the site.

Eyewitnesses said soldiers fired warning shots in air to keep residents away from the crash site.

Meanwhile, as the tensions and confrontation escalated between India and Pakistan, authorities asked workers to paint rooftops of hospitals and clinics in red and white with a medical emblem of a cross in Srinagar city.

Meanwhile, the foreign ministry in Islamabad said the country's air force was carrying out airstrikes Wednesday from within Pakistani airspace across the disputed Kashmir boundary but that this was not in "retaliation to continued Indian belligerence."

Ghafoor, the Pakistani military spokesperson, said the strikes were aimed at "avoiding human loss and collateral damage."

According to local Pakistani police official Mohammad Altaf, the six fatalities in the Indian shelling earlier on Wednesday included children. The shells hit the village of Kotli in Pakistan's section of Kashmir.

India's Border Security Force (BSF) soldiers patrol along the fenced border with Pakistan in Ranbir Singh Pura sector near Jammu on Tuesday. Tensions are mounting between the two countries. (Mukesh Gupta/Reuters)

Kashmir is split between Pakistan and India and claimed by both in its entirety. Though Pakistani and Indian troops in Kashmir often trade fire, the latest casualties came a day after tensions escalated sharply following a pre-dawn airstrike and incursion by India that New Delhi said targeted a terrorist training camp in northwestern Pakistan. 

The latest wave of tensions between Pakistan and India first erupted after Jaish-e-Mohammad claimed responsibility for the Feb. 14 suicide bombing of a convoy of India's paramilitary forces in the Indian portion of Kashmir that killed 40 Indian troops.

Pakistan has said it was not involved in the attack and was ready to help New Delhi in the investigations.

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Airlines reroute to avoid

Airlines operating flights from the Far East to destinations in Europe are having to reroute their planes away from Pakistan and northern India.

The airspace is closed due to escalating tension between the two countries, following the shooting down of two Indian military jets.

Flights via Pakistan have been cancelled and other flights rerouted.

Thai Airways has taken the more drastic step of suspending all its flights destined for Europe.

With the flight space south of Pakistan becoming crowded, the Bangkok-based airline has not been able to establish alternative routes for its flights.


''By closing the airspace, every flight from Thailand to Europe has been affected. For flights that are going to depart this evening we will call an urgent meeting to consider the impact of such events," said Thai Airways President Sumeth Damrongchaitham.

Singapore Airlines and British Airways are amongst the operators that have had to reroute flights.

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An update, which also says AC will restart it's flights to Mumbai using different routing.

February 27, 2019 8:39 am

Updated: February 27, 2019 12:52 pm

Flights to India and Pakistan cancelled, rerouted amid rising tensions

img_6786-e1496082127611.jpg?quality=60&s By Maham Abedi National Online Journalist, Breaking News  Global News

Major airlines were cancelling and rerouting flights to Pakistan and India Wednesday amid rising tensions between the two countries.

READ MORE: Why India and Pakistan could go to war over Kashmir

The airlines, including Emirates, Air Canada and Qatar Airways, suspended flights after Pakistan closed its airspace. Flight trackers showed that some even had to turn back mid-route.

Later on Wednesday, airlines began restarting their services, but on alternate routes.


Air Canada explained in an email to Global News that all flights to India were temporarily cancelled after one en route to Delhi was forced to turn back to Toronto.

The airline said its Toronto to Mumbai flight will operate on time Wednesday night, but on a different route.

READ MORE: Jaish-e-Mohammed — Why India wants to strike at militants in Pakistan

“We are evaluating the routing options for both Toronto-Delhi and Vancouver-Delhi flights scheduled to operate later tonight,” it added.

Air Canada has enacted its goodwill policy for customers affected by cancellations.

The airline operates a daily service from Toronto and Vancouver to Delhi, and has a four-times-weekly flight from Toronto to Mumbai. It does not fly to Pakistan.

Other airlines affected

Pakistan International Airlines posted on Twitter Wednesday that travellers should “expect delays.”

Air India also tweeted that it is planning to reroute some of its flights to try and minimize delays.

India-based airline Jet Airways urged passengers to check their flight’s status to see if it is affected. It noted that several flights are taking alternate routes and will not be delayed. Customers on affected flights will not be charged penalties.

Canadian government issues travel warnings

The Canadian government also is urging caution for those travelling to certain parts of India and Pakistan.

The government is advising Canadians to avoid all non-essential travel to Pakistan, saying the “security situation is unpredictable.”“There is a threat of terrorist attacks, kidnapping and sectarian violence,” the advisory reads.

The government has a more stern advisory for certain parts of Pakistan, where its says to avoid all travel.

Those areas include:

  • the city of Islamabad
  • the area within 10 km of all international borders (except the Wagah official border crossing point)
  • the Kashmir region, including Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan
  • the province of Balochistan and its capital city, Quetta
  • the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, including Swat, the city of Peshawar, Khyber, North Waziristan and South Waziristan

For India, the government has issued regional advisories.

It notes that Canadians travelling to India should “exercise a high degree of caution” due to the threat of terror attacks throughout the country.Regionally, it says to avoid all travel to Jammu and Kashmir. It also says to avoid all travel within 10 kilometres of the country’s border with Pakistan in the states of Gujarat, Punjab and Rajastan.

The border advisory is “due to the possibility of landmines and unexploded ordnance,” the government explains.

The Wagah border crossing and towns farther from the border, such as Amritsar in Punjab and Bikaner and Jaisalmer in Rajasthan, are not included in the advisoryCanada also has other travel advisories for northeastern India, and relating to its shared border with Bangladesh and Myanmar.

Other countries, such as the United Kingdom and New Zealand have also issued travel warnings for India and Pakistan this week.

READ MORE: India drops bombs in Pakistan as tensions rise over Kashmir militant attack

The latest wave of tensions between Pakistan and India first erupted after the militant group Jaish-e-Mohammad claimed responsibility for a Feb. 14 suicide bombing that killed over 40 Indian troops travelling in a convoy of paramilitary forces in the Indian portion of Kashmir.

Pakistan has said it was not involved in the attack and was ready to help New Delhi in the investigations. India has long accused Pakistan of cultivating such militant groups to attack it.

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Mig-21???? Most people would need an encyclopedia just to see one.  Since encyclopedias were a thing when they we actually in service.

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March 17, 2019 2:47 pm

Updated: March 17, 2019 6:01 pm

‘We all got abandoned’: B.C. family among hundreds stranded without their luggage in India

sean-boynton.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w= By Sean Boynton Online Journalist  Global News
Global News Hour at 6 BC: B.C. flights to India and Pakistan cancelled over unrest concernsx

WATCH: A B.C. family was among hundreds of Canadians whose luggage was left behind on a flight from Vancouver to New Delhi this week.


A B.C. family is among hundreds of Canadians who have been left stranded and frustrated in India without their luggage days after their Air Canada flight flew out of Vancouver.

Johnny Birk told Global News that he and his family have been in New Delhi since early Friday morning after departing Vancouver just after midnight on Thursday. He estimates that roughly 300 passengers were on the same flight, but only 30 pieces of luggage arrived at Indira Gandhi International Airport with them.

“Everyone was missing luggage,” he said. “It was literally like a riot in the airport.”

READ MORE: Travel Tuesday: what you can do to prevent lost luggage

Birk said he travelled to New Delhi for a wedding along with his mother and other relatives, including two children. Out of their group’s 12 bags, only two arrived.

As frustration mounted and the entire group was only granted one Air Canada staff member to handle the angry customers, Birk started taking video on his cellphone.

The video shows that staff member attempting to fill out claim sheets for every customer involved in the flight and trying to answer their questions.“They gave us one staff member to deal with 300 people, some of them elderly, some of them needing assistance,” Birk said. “It was a madhouse.”

Birk said that since they arrived in India, two other flights have also flown into New Delhi from Vancouver — both without their luggage.

“We have nothing,” he said. “I’m still wearing the same clothes, same underwear, same everything that I left Vancouver in three days ago. And everyone else on the flight is in the same situation.”


On Saturday, Birk said he called Air Canada and was told to be at the airport that afternoon to pick up the rest of his luggage. But after two hours of waiting there, along with other passengers from their flight, Birk was told the luggage wasn’t arriving.

“They said one bag was in London Heathrow Airport, two of them they don’t know where they are and the others are still in Vancouver,” he said. “It’s ridiculous. Why can’t they get our bags here?”

In a statement to Global News, Air Canada blamed the issue on the renewed tensions between India and Pakistan, which has led to air travel restrictions.

Last month, Air Canada cancelled all flights to northern India because of the conflict, which was sparked after a bombing in the disputed region of Kashmir on Feb. 14 that killed 40 people. The airline resumed flights a day later.

WATCH (Aired Feb. 27): Aaron McArthur reports on the travel chaos in the immediate wake of the latest India-Pakistan conflict


“Due to the ongoing airspace closure over Pakistan, we fly a longer route, which requires more fuel, therefore restricting the weight the aircraft can safely carry,” the airline said.

“On occasion, this has resulted in some bags being delayed as we then co-ordinate the transport of bags over alternate routings. Our teams in India are reuniting bags with customers.”

Birk said that explanation has not been provided to them and that customers should have known about the issue ahead of time.

WATCH: A brief history of the Pakistan-India conflict

“What we don’t understand is why didn’t they tell us before we left Vancouver that your bags aren’t going to be there with you? Because no one would have come,” he said, adding that he’s been told by the airline that the luggage issue has been ongoing for over a week.

When asked what kind of compensation the airline is providing customers, a spokesperson for Air Canada said the company is dealing with customers on an individual basis.

In the video, the Air Canada staff member is seen offering customers $150 per person in compensation. Birk said requests for hotel and food vouchers have been denied and that attempts to be compensated for clothes they buy in New Delhi are futile.

READ MORE: India and Pakistan threatened to trade missile strikes after Kashmir attack: sources

“We’re not in Miami or L.A. or somewhere where we can just go out and survive,” he said. “I can’t even go shopping anywhere because [Air Canada] said they’d compensate us if we provide them receipts, but no one here even writes receipts. We don’t know what to do.”

Air Canada’s own rules on transportation and baggage say customers are entitled to as much as $2,100 CDN each for lost or destroyed baggage under the Carriage by Air Act.

That act includes the Montreal Convention, which does not require receipts as proof for compensation of purchases of clothing and other items in the wake of lost luggage.

As he and his family wait to be reunited with their belongings, Birk said what was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime has now become a nightmare.

“My mom moved to Canada in 1971,” he said. “This is the first time she’s been back to India since for a wedding that’s been planned for months, and now we have nothing.”

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Pure media BS. 

All those bags went through YYZ the next day and on to the direct flight from there.  

So while there may have been confusion upon arrival, all the bags got there the next day.

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On 2/28/2019 at 9:35 AM, boestar said:

Mig-21???? Most people would need an encyclopedia just to see one.  Since encyclopedias were a thing when they we actually in service.

Apparently India , over the next decade,will retire 14 squadrons of MiG-21s, MiG-27s and MiG-29s, numbering over 200 aircraft. Originally the MiG 21 was to be retired 2019/2020. There are about 16-18 aircraft in each of the proposed retirement squadrons


Entered service in 1959                     (Photo of Pakistan MiG 21)


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