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ANAHUAC, Texas - A twin-engine Boeing 767 crashed into Trinity Bay near Anahuac just before 12:45 p.m. Saturday.

The Federal Aviation Administration said initial reports indicated that there were three people on board. The Chambers County Sheriff's office says there were no survivors.

The plane was on its way to George Bush Intercontinental Airport from Miami when it crashed, the FAA said.

According to Atlas Air Inc.'s website, the company transports items from "precious perishables or heavy construction equipment to arranging passenger charters for celebrities or dignitaries." 

Below is a picture of the plane's flight path into Houston from Miami before the deadly crash."Flight route of cargo jet_1550953539337.png.jpg"> Flight route of cargo jet_1550953539337.png.jpg

The FAA released the following statement:

A twin-engine Boeing 767 cargo jetliner operated by Atlas Air Inc. crashed into Trinity Bay near Anahuac, Texas, shortly before 12:45 p.m. (Saturday).

The Federal Aviation Administration issued an Alert Notice (ALNOT) on Atlas Air Flight 3591 after losing radar and radio contact with the Boeing 767 approximately 30 miles southeast of Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport. The aircraft was flying from Miami to Houston.

Initial reports indicate three people were aboard the aircraft.

Please contact local search and rescue officials for further information about the emergency response.

FAA investigators are on their way to the accident site and the National Transportation Safety Board has been notified. The NTSB will be in charge of the investigation.

The FAA and NTSB do not release names of people aboard aircraft. We defer to local officials to do that at the appropriate time.

This is a developing story, please check back for details

Following from https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/atlas-air-767-freighter-crashes-near-houston-456049/

An Atlas Air Boeing 767-300ER Freighter operating as online retailer Amazon's Prime Air has crashed near Houston following a flight from Miami.

The aircraft (MSN 25865) operating Atlas Air flight 3591 "crashed into Trinity Bay near Anahuac, Texas, shortly before 12:45pm [local time] today", the US Federal Aviation Administration says in a statement.

There were three crewmembers aboard the flight, according to the regulator. FAA investigators are enroute to the crash site.

FlightRadar24 data shows the flight departed Miami at 11:33 local time and was scheduled to arrive at Houston Intercontinental at 12:53 local time.

The 767-300ER Freighter has flown for Prime Air since April 2017, Cirium Fleets Analyzer shows. It had 90,601h and 23,180 cycles at the end of December.

The aircraft was delivered new to Canadian Airlines International in 1992, the database shows. It was converted to a freighter by Atlas Air in 2016.

Atlas Air was not immediately available for comment.

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Operating on behalf of Amazon Prime...

Crash: Atlas B763 at Houston on Feb 23rd 2019, lost height on approach

By Simon Hradecky, created Saturday, Feb 23rd 2019 20:49Z, last updated Saturday, Feb 23rd 2019 21:04Z

An Atlas Air Boeing 767-300 freighter on behalf of Amazon Prime, registration N1217A performing flight 5Y-3591 from Miami,FL to Houston Intercontinental,TX (USA) with 3 crew, was on approach to Houston when radio and radar contact with the aircraft was lost about 30nm southeast of Houston Intercontinental Airport at about 12:40L (18:40Z).

Local Police reported the aircraft was located in Trinity Bay near Anahuac,TX (USA).

The FAA reported an Alert was raised for an Atlas Air Boeing 767 with 3 crew on board after radio and radar contact was lost about 30nm southeast of Houston Airport.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI3591/history/20190223/1608Z/KMIA/KIAH

Metars:
KIAH 232053Z 31010KT 10SM FEW045 BKN210 OVC250 22/08 A2989 RMK AO2 SLP121 T02220083 57010=
KIAH 231953Z 31011KT 10SM SCT039 BKN090 BKN250 23/13 A2990 RMK AO2 SLP123 T02330128=
KIAH 231853Z 32011G19KT 10SM SCT035 BKN080 BKN250 21/12 A2991 RMK AO2 SLP129 T02110117=
KIAH 231802Z 32015G24KT 10SM FEW035 SCT060 BKN080 BKN250 22/12 A2992 RMK AO2 T02220117=
KIAH 231753Z 32014G19KT 9SM FEW020 SCT033 BKN060 21/12 A2992 RMK AO2 PK WND 33029/1701 WSHFT 1653 RAB01E13 SLP131 P0000 60000 T02110122 10261 20189 53015=
KIAH 231745Z 32009KT 9SM FEW020 SCT033 BKN060 20/12 A2992 RMK AO2 PK WND 33029/1701 WSHFT 1653 RAB01E13 P0000 T02000117=
KIAH 231713Z 32018G24KT 8SM BR SCT016 BKN020 BKN029 19/12 A2991 RMK AO2 PK WND 33029/1701 WSHFT 1653 RAB01E13 VCSH SE-S P0000 T01940122=
KIAH 231653Z 27010G15KT 5SM BR SCT015 BKN018 BKN029 24/22 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP119 VCSH S-SW T02440217=
KIAH 231615Z 24007KT 5SM BR SCT015 BKN019 OVC028 24/22 A2989 RMK AO2 T02440217=
KIAH 231553Z 19008KT 6SM BR BKN013 BKN019 BKN035 25/22 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP118 T02500222=
KIAH 231509Z 20008KT 5SM BR BKN012 BKN018 BKN055 24/22 A2988 RMK AO2 T02390222=
KIAH 231453Z VRB05KT 5SM BR SCT011 BKN017 BKN055 23/22 A2988 RMK AO2 SLP117 60000 T02330222 53018=
KIAH 231433Z 17009KT 5SM BR SCT010 BKN016 BKN055 23/22 A2987 RMK AO2 T02330222=
KIAH 231353Z 19007KT 5SM BR BKN009 BKN014 BKN055 23/22 A2985 RMK AO2 SLP107 T02330222=


 

 

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33 minutes ago, Super 80 said:

I believe this aircraft was originally delivered to Canadian as C-GCAW.

Operators of the aircraft

Delivery date Airline Registration Remark  
21/04/1992 Canadian Airlines C-GCAW   Correct
16/07/1992 GPA EI-CFR   Correct
04/11/1992 China Southern Airlines B-2561   Correct
01/01/1997 LAN Chile CC-CRG   Correct
23/07/2004 LAN Airlines CC-CRG   Correct
01/01/2009 LAN Argentina LV-BTE   Correct
10/09/2010 LAN Airlines CC-CRG Stored 07/2014 as N258CT (CIT)   Correct
27/01/2016 Atlas Air N258CT   Correct
05/04/2016 Atlas Air N631GT Stored 11/2016   Correct
08/04/2017 Atlas Air N1217A Lsd From Cit   Correct

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Radar plot I saw online shows a rapid increase in vertical speed (descending) through around 8000'.  Not sure how accurate those things are online but it was doing -7000 FPM when it was lost off radar.  Weather was in the area, however it looked like they had yet to transition through the worst of it.  

 

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I know it wasn’t intended but I mistakenly interpreted the thread title as meaning one of Cargojet’s aircraft had gone down. I have several friends working there. Scared myself for a moment. 

A very unusual set of circumstances before the crash. This one should get the attention of every 767 operator. 

Edited by J.O.

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9 seconds from 6000 feet to impact almost certainly indicates a catastrophic failure of some sort.   

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Video shows Atlas 767F in ‘steep’ dive prior to crash: NTSB

  •  
  • 24 February, 2019
  • SOURCE: Flight Dashboard
  • BY: Jon Hemmerdinger
  • Boston

The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) has obtained security video showing Atlas Air flight 3591 in a “steep nose-down attitude” prior to crashing in Trinity Bay near Houston on 23 February.

“The aircraft is in the video… at a steep descent – [a] steep nose-down attitude,” NTSB chair Robert Sumwalt said during a press conference on 24 February. “I saw no evidence of the aircraft trying to turn or pull up at the last moments.”

The security video was taken from a county jail at a distance of slightly more than 1nm (1.9km) from the site where the Boeing 767-300ER Freighter crashed following a flight from Miami.

 

Authorities have confirmed three people were aboard the aircraft. Atlas Air says there were no survivors.

The video shows the aircraft for approximately 5s, says Sumwalt, adding that the NTSB is sending the footage to laboratories in Washington DC for analysis.

He made his comments in Anahuac, Texas, which is near the crash site. The agency’s top priority is to recover the flight data and cockpit voice recorders, a process that may require dredging, divers or wading “through the debris field and feeling for them”, says Sumwalt.

He also confirmed several details about the flight, which took off from Miami at about 11:30 local time. The 767 was approaching Houston George Bush Intercontinental airport on the “standard arrival routes from the south-east”, says Sumwalt.

At about 12:30 Houston time, the aircraft was descending through 18,000ft. Shortly after, Houston air traffic controllers advised the pilots of “light-to-heavy rain ahead, and provided radar vectors around the weather”, Sumwalt says.

Controllers then cleared Atlas flight 3591 to descend to 3,000ft.

At 12:39, while the aircraft was at about 6,000ft and travelling at 240kt, “communication was lost with the aircraft, as was radar contact”, Sumwalt says. “There was no distress call.”

The aircraft had not been logged as carrying hazardous materials, he adds.

The NTSB has recovered “remains of both wings” and landing gear components from a debris field that measures about 183m (600ft) by 91m, Sumwalt says.

“We have conducted aerial surveys and up-close examination of debris fields via airboats,” he adds. The NTSB intends to load debris onto barges for transport to shore and onward to a local hangar.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has recovered two bodies and is assisting the NTSB with collection of witness statements and documentation of debris, says an FBI spokesperson.

The criminal investigation agency’s involvement in the early stages of NTSB investigations is common practice, he adds.

The Federal Aviation Administration, Boeing, Atlas Air, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, pilot union International Brotherhood of Teamsters and engine maker General Electric are assisting the NTSB with the inquiry, says Sumwalt.

Boeing manufactured the CF6-80C2-powered 767-300ER, registration N1217A, in 1992 and delivered it new to Canadian International Airlines, according to Cirium Fleets Analyzer.

Atlas Air affiliate Titan Aviation Leasing acquired the aircraft in January 2016, at which time it entered service with Atlas Air, Fleets Analyzer shows.

Parent company Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings owns both Atlas Air and Titan.

Since April 2017, Atlas Air has operated the 767 for online retailer Amazon under the Prime Air brand, Fleets Analyzer shows.

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1) Sorry about the title of the thread...Just "cut and paste" from CNN 😯

2) Catastrophic mechanical  event, weather event  or, hopefully not, shades of "German Wings"  

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15 minutes ago, blues deville said:

 

The third crew member I’m assuming was either a trainee, DH pilot or check airman.

I see no reason to have extra crew for a MIA-IAH flight. . 

Remember Fedex 705 ??

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11 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

1) Sorry about the title of the thread...Just "cut and paste" from CNN 😯

2) Catastrophic mechanical  event, weather event  or, hopefully not, shades of "German Wings"  

If you want to change the title.  click on your initial post, chose edit and then you can change the title or anything else in that post.  Save it and there you go.

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I didn't want to change the title......I forgot there was a carrier in Canada called Cargojet....🤫 and even though it is spelled differently than  the CNN header, it  could be  misread.

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Pilot:  ATC We would like to turn for weather

ATC: NO

Pilot: ATC I'm Turning for weather.

/end conversation

 

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As with any eyewitness account, one must use copious amounts of salt, but witnesses who were boating on the lake where the crash occurred said there was no significant precipitation or thunderstorm activity in the vicinity.

Edited by J.O.

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sorry Should have used my Sarcasm font.

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anyone ever mention anything about the JET-A polluting the water?

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Container movement shifting the CofG forward during descent is now being discussed as a potential cause. Always a concern with empty positions or gaps on a main deck cargo hold. Must ensure each roller is locked. 

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22 minutes ago, blues deville said:

Must ensure each roller is locked

and that the 'boards' are not bent or warped

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