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This type of action is on the increase. Now is time to make the passenger foot the bill and of course suffer  other penaltys under law. 

Unruly passenger forces WestJet flight from Calgary to U.K. to return

Police were called to meet the flight when it arrived back at the gate and a man was taken into custody.

Calgary police arrested 1 man when flight returned to gate

CBC News · Posted: Jan 04, 2019 10:46 PM MT | Last Updated: 7 hours ago

A WestJet flight headed from Calgary to London, England was forced to turn back soon after takeoff Friday evening after a passenger became unruly.

Police were called to meet the flight when it arrived back at the gate and a man was taken into custody.

WestJet Flight 1 left Calgary about 6:10 p.m., said Sgt. Duane Lepchuk, and was turned around about an hour later.

"At approximately 8:30 p.m., the plane landed and we took one male subject in custody and charges are currently pending," he said.

"We're trying to determine exactly what transpired on the plane so there could be a range of charges."

 

A spokesperson with WestJet declined to comment, citing police involvement.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-westjet-flight-return-1.4967229?cmp=rss

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Note the comment re intoxication.  Maybe time to up the level of surveillance at the time of boarding.  Easy to say but hard to do. 

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January 5, 2019 10:22 am

Man charged after WestJet flight to U.K. returned to Calgary

adam-macvicar-bio-photo.jpg?quality=60&s By Adam MacVicar Digital Journalist  Global News ., on Thursday, May 10, 2018.
THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jeff McIntosh
 

A man is facing charges after a flight from Calgary to London, England, was forced to turn around on Friday night.

WestJet Flight 1 took off from Calgary shortly after 6 p.m. and returned to the gate at 8:30 p.m.

 

Police were called to the airport around 7 p.m. to take the man into custody when the plane arrived back at the gate.

A WestJet spokesperson confirmed the plane was turned around for the safety of the crew and guests but declined to comment further due to police involvement.

 

According to Calgary police, the man was believed to have been intoxicated.

The man was later charged with causing a disturbance under Canadian Aviation Security Regulations.

According to WestJet, the remaining guests on the flight were back on their way to London around 11 p.m. Friday.

 

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Gate agents are not bouncers but it’s a lot easier and cheaper to deal with this on the ground than in the air.  I would argue they have a responsibility to be watching for passenger behaviours and deny boarding.

And you’re telling me the crew didn’t get a sense the guy was drunk?  Did they think, ah maybe he will sleep it off, we just won’t serve him.

The flight didn’t get too far from YYC before he decision was made to turn back.

Most likely a case of everyone trying to be “nice” and “avoid conflict.”

 

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In a post 9-11 world where any checked bags would have to be found and offloaded, I imagine there would be the same reluctance to deny boarding to an inebriated but so far well behaved passenger, as there is to close a flight on a no-show?

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4 minutes ago, GreatSlave said:

In a post 9-11 world where any checked bags would have to be found and offloaded, I imagine there would be the same reluctance to deny boarding to an inebriated but so far well behaved passenger, as there is to close a flight on a no-show?

Also there is a rush most times to  board passengers and in particular when the flight has suffered a delay leaving little or no time for the gate agent or the flight attendant to talk to the passenger.

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10 hours ago, internet said:

Gate agents are not bouncers but it’s a lot easier and cheaper to deal with this on the ground than in the air.  I would argue they have a responsibility to be watching for passenger behaviours and deny boarding.

The requirement to comply with the regulation doesn’t begin at boarding. Anyone representing the airline has a responsibility to intervene if a passenger appears to be intoxicated. Most airlines don’t emphasize that enough in training with their ground staff.

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5 minutes ago, J.O. said:

Most airlines don’t emphasize that enough in training with their ground staff.

Exactly. It’s a tough job to be the bad cop in these situations but you’re not doing anyone a favour by letting a drunk board a plane. 

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2 hours ago, J.O. said:

The requirement to comply with the regulation doesn’t begin at boarding. Anyone representing the airline has a responsibility to intervene if a passenger appears to be intoxicated. Most airlines don’t emphasize that enough in training with their ground staff.

The practical problem as I have experienced it is the guy who slammed a few drinks before boarding might not appear intoxicated until a little while later.

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If no airline will carry a deportee CBSA will charter a jet and sedate them if necessary. There was some maniac from Jamaica a few years ago who made even that nearly impossible.

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Mid-flight antics may prove costly

WestJet seeks $65,000 from unruly passenger after flight to U.K. turned back

  • Calgary Herald
  • 25 Jan 2019
  • KEVIN MARTIN KMartin@postmedia.com twitter.com/KMartinCourts
img?regionKey=dxyi5OrKK66wZLjklbGkCQ%3d%3dDARRYL DYCK /THE CANADIAN PRESS/FILES WestJet’s costs after a passenger disrupted a flight could exceed $200,000, says Crown lawyer Lori Ibrus.

The drunken and unruly passenger who forced a London-bound WestJet flight to return to Calgary may have to pay dearly for his antics.

Crown lawyer Lori Ibrus on Thursday said WestJet is seeking nearly $65,000 in compensation from David Stephen Young after he delayed a flight for four hours.

Young pleaded guilty to two charges, one under the Aeronautics Act of failing to comply with safety instructions from airline staff and a Criminal Code charge of resisting arrest when he was removed from the plane.

Ibrus told provincial court Judge Brian Stevenson that Young, 44, disrupted a Jan. 4, flight from Calgary to Gatwick Airport shortly after takeoff.

Reading from a statement of agreed facts signed by Young and his lawyer, Michelle Parhar, Ibrus said a 6:15 p.m. flight had just departed Calgary when Young tried to access a lavatory.

“The passengers were required to remain seated and buckled in,” Ibrus said.

“Right after takeoff, the accused insisted on getting up from his seat to use the lavatory,” she said.

Ibrus said Young was told he would have to sit down for safety reasons and initially he complied.

But he got up shortly afterward and again tried to push his way into the locked washroom, becoming aggressive toward a passenger who tried to intervene and swore at her.

“The accused was non-compliant with the flight attendant’s safety instructions and forced his way into the lavatory to use it.”

When he exited, he began to verbally berate the other passenger, Karen Ambler, and staff had to get in between them to prevent a physical altercation, the prosecutor said. Eventually Young sat back down, but the crew and Ambler were “left shaken and threatened” by Young, and the decision was made to return the flight to Calgary.

However, to reduce the airplane’s weight for landing, Capt. Rodney Booth had to dump 20,000 pounds of fuel and then fly around first at 10,000 feet and then 8,000 feet to burn off more fuel.

“The fuel burn took approximately 45 minutes,” Ibrus said.

When the flight got back to the gate, Const. Conrad Yue arrested Young, but he repeatedly resisted the officer and Canada Border Services Agency officers who tried to lead him to an airport cell.

The entire flight was delayed four hours, as was a return flight from London.

Both Ibrus and Parhar agreed the seven days Young spent behind bars after his arrest was sufficient punishment.

But Parhar argued against the compensation order being sought by WestJet of $64,769.26 for fuel costs, some meal vouchers and passenger compensation, and hotel costs for putting up 18 returning passengers who missed connecting flights.

Ibrus said WestJet’s total costs could exceed $200,000, but the final figure won’t be known for some time.

Parhar suggested a compensation order of $5,000 to $8,000 would sufficiently act as a deterrent, but not bankrupt the Brit.

She said the alcoholic Young had been on the wagon for six months, but the stress of returning to the U.K. after a Christmas visit with his recently widowed mother on Vancouver Island caused him to consume five drinks pre-flight.

She also said the embarrassment of media coverage here and in the U.K. is a significant mitigating factor.

Stevenson will sentence Young next week.

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Rookie reporter will undoubtedly hear from the  WestJet PR folks..........

WestJet seeks $65,000 from unruly passenger after flight to U.K. turned back

WestJet’s costs after a passenger disrupted a flight...............

The drunken and unruly passenger who forced ........................

The passengers were required to.........................

becoming aggressive toward a passenger who tried......................

to verbally berate the other passengers................

some meal vouchers and passenger compensation, ......................

 18 returning passengers who missed............................

 

PS...............,would be nice if this broken justice system threw the entire book at this WestJet guest and he could then  be the poster boy for unruly behavior on any airline aircraft,,,

 

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Gaol time in this case:

Man given jail time for mischief on plane, assaulting flight attendant

A 61-year-old man who assaulted a flight attendant on an airplane in Hay River, N.W.T., last year has been sentenced to six months in jail.

The incident happened while an airplane was taxiing on a Hay River, N.W.T., runway in 2018

Steve Silva · CBC News · Posted: Jan 25, 2019 5:23 PM CT | Last Updated: an hour ago
 
William Max Mahoney, who was convicted of assaulting a flight attendant, among other charges, had been drinking during the airplane.

A 61-year-old man who assaulted a flight attendant on an airplane in Hay River, N.W.T., last year has been sentenced to six months in jail.

William Max Mahoney stood up while the plane was taxiing on the runway in January, 2018, and wrapped his arms around a flight attendant from behind, a Yellowknife territorial courtroom heard on Friday.

Mahoney had been drinking alcohol during the flight from what was described as a smoothie bottle.

In her sentencing, Judge Bernadette Schmaltz called Mahoney "incorrigible."

She said he was acting unruly on the plane.

Schmaltz said Mahoney stumbled and fell and he also dropped his bottle. The sole flight attendant, a woman, got up and picked up the bottle.

"He came at me," said Schmaltz, quoting the flight attendant.

The debacle caused a minor delay to the flight. There were 34 passengers on board.

Emotional effect

While it can be tempting to focus on the lack of physical injuries, said Schmaltz, it's important to think about the profound emotional effect of the incident.

Schmaltz said the flight attendant missed eight weeks of work as a result of the assault, and that the event led to post-traumatic stress disorder.

Mahoney was convicted of dangerous or unruly behaviour under the Aeronautics Act, as well as mischief and assault.

Prior to Friday's sentencing, Mahoney had been ordered not to drink alcohol unless he was at home. He was later found intoxicated in some bushes.

He also failed to make a prior court appearance and breached a no-contact order.

Mahoney, who initially pled not guilty to the assault charge in a Hay River court, apologized on Thursday for his behaviour and admitted he has a problem with alcohol.

Schmaltz, who noted his dozens of previous convictions, said she didn't accept his remorse as sincere.

With 63 days of credit for time already served, Mahoney has a little under four months left of jail time.

Mahoney was also ordered to not contact the flight attendant.

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Looks like the pipe will be paid.

Drunk WestJet passenger who caused plane to reroute ordered to pay $21,000 for the fuel

The U.K. man whose "absolutely disgusting" drunken behaviour caused a WestJet flight to return to Calgary must pay the airline $21,260.68 — the cost of the wasted fuel.

David Stephen Young, 44, pleaded guilty to resisting arrest, failing to comply with safety instructions

Meghan Grant · CBC News · Posted: Jan 29, 2019 11:28 AM MT | Last Updated: an hour ago
 
The man whose drunken behaviour caused a WestJet plane to turn around has been fined the cost of the wasted fuel, more than $21,000. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press)

The U.K. man whose "absolutely disgusting" drunken behaviour caused a WestJet flight to turn around and land back in Calgary must pay the airline $21,260.68 — the cost of the wasted fuel. 

David Stephen Young, 44, pleaded guilty last week to charges under the Aeronautics Act and Criminal Code of failing to comply with safety instructions and resisting arrest.

"One has to feel some sympathy for the accused but as in all criminal legislation, it is trite to say that the voice of the victim must also be heard," said provincial court Judge Brian Stevenson in delivering his sentencing decision.

The victims, Stevenson noted, include the flight crew, passengers, WestJet and its shareholders as well as the police and CBSA officers, who were also at the receiving end of Young's tirade.

Young is an alcoholic but had been sober for 18 months until Jan. 4, when he consumed about six drinks while waiting to board his flight. The U.K. resident had been visiting his mother in B.C. over the holidays and was depressed because of a death in the family and a failed marriage, according to the facts of the case presented in court last week.

Once Young boarded a flight in Calgary bound for London, he became belligerent with flight crew and a fellow passenger, and repeatedly tried to get up during take-off to use the washroom.

About an hour into Young's abusive behaviour, the decision was made to turn the plane around.

The pilot had to burn off and then dump 20,000 pounds of fuel in order to land safely, according to the facts of the case, read aloud in court last week by prosecutor Lori Ibrus.

Ibrus had requested a $65,000 restitution order but Stevenson said he didn't want the court-ordered payment to bankrupt Young.

WestJet's total losses — which include the cost of the fuel and compensation for its passengers — could be more than $200,000.

Week behind bars

In a written statement read by his lawyer last week, Young apologized for his behaviour and for the "damage and inconvenience" he caused to his fellow travellers. 

Defence lawyer Michelle Parhar had sought a $5,000 to $8,000 restitution order for her client.

Young also spent one week at the Calgary Remand Centre before he was released on bail.

It will be very difficult for Young to ever enter Canada again, said Parhar.

Once Young returns to the U.K., "he's essentially barred from entering Canada, barred from seeing his mother in B.C.," said Parhar.

Stevenson noted WestJet could make a civil claim against Young if it wanted to try to recover more of its losses

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