deicer Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/aeromexico-737-jetliner-damaged-in-possible-midair-drone-strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Evidently a near miss by a drone on a 737 today in the UK today also. Stansted Airport: Drone 'missed landing plane by 15m' 15 December 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-46540592 Image copyright Press Association Image caption The Boeing 737 was coming in to land at Stansted Airport A drone flying more than 20 times the allowed height came within 15m (50ft) of a Boeing 737 approaching a runway at Stansted Airport in Essex. The plane was flying at 10,000ft (3km) and coming in to land on 17 August when the captain spotted the drone. The first officer then saw "a dark-coloured square or rectangle-shaped object pass down the right side of the aircraft with minimal separation". The UK Airprox Board rated the risk of collision as the highest possible. After the incident, which happened at 16:36 BST, the plane was inspected on the ground and found no evidence of contact or damage. It is not known whether the Boeing 737 was carrying passengers or cargo. 'Totally unacceptable' The drone operator, who it is understood has not been traced, was in breach of the Air Navigation Order 2009, which refers to flight safety of unmanned craft. Drones must not be flown in airspace or above 400ft (121m) or in the vicinity of airports without permission from air traffic control and the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, deicer said: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-13/aeromexico-737-jetliner-damaged-in-possible-midair-drone-strike If you scroll below the drone strike story in this link you will find an interesting story about Boeing opening a "finishing" plant in China..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 5:06 PM, Kip Powick said: If you scroll below the drone strike story in this link you will find an interesting story about Boeing opening a "finishing" plant in China..... didnt they just complete their first aircraft in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, boestar said: didnt they just complete their first aircraft in China. Indeed they did: https://qz.com/1497137/boeings-china-plant-delivers-first-jet-a-737-max-for-air-china/ Quote TAKING OFF Boeing’s new plant in China just delivered its first plane By Steve MollmanDecember 16, 2018 Boeing, America’s largest exporter, delivered its first plane finished in China this weekend. Built for Air China, the 737 Max was completed and delivered on Saturday at a new facility in Zhoushan, outside of Shanghai. Many more will follow. With its burgeoning middle class, China is expected to need about 7,700 commercial planes over the next two decades—representing $1.2 trillion in potential sales, according to Bloomberg (paywall). China’s airlines are already the biggest buyers of 737s, which are Boeing’s largest source of profit. China will soon be the world’s biggest airplane market. The Zhoushan facility is a joint venture with state-owned plane maker Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), which last year completed the maiden flight of its C919, roughly the same size as a 737. Work at the facility was limited to the plane’s interior, including installing seats and other cabin equipment. More responsibilities will be added over time, such as painting the exterior, but the center is primarily meant for completion and delivery, with the main manufacturing remaining in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Work at the facility was limited to the plane’s interior, including installing seats and other cabin equipment.........with the main manufacturing remaining in the US. Phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 hours ago, blues deville said: Work at the facility was limited to the plane’s interior, including installing seats and other cabin equipment.........with the main manufacturing remaining in the US. Phew. One interesting thing about China is that they will provide whatever level of quality your company is willing to pay for. The reason why Chinese products have a reputation for poor quality is simply because the contracting company is willing to pay for, and accept, lower quality and not because they are incapable of producing higher quality. Apple products are made in China and are generally considered to be high quality. This is because Apple pays for high quality. Dollar store electronics are also made in China and are low quality - not because they couldn't be made better but because the dollar stores aren't willing to pay for better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That is something people are not willing to admit and it is also one reason why China is the country of choice for manufacturing. You see a lot of things that are now marked as "ENGINEERED IN USA Made in China" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I’ve flown a few loads of used lithium batteries to Guangzhou, China. Always thrilled to see them listed on the NOTAC. Definitely future dollar store products. However, in Boeing’s case I’m sure their China (Baldwin as Trump: it’s pronounced “Gina”) plant is closely monitored and managed by Boeing USA as are their many global parts suppliers. Korean Aerospace in Busan, South Korea has produced various parts for Boeing including the 737, 767, 777 and 787. However, our family Boeing friend told me he made over 600 trips to Busan when he was a manager on the 767 program. Lots of production issues when the work is done far from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Flights suspended at Britain's Gatwick airport after reports of drones Gatwick airport, the second-busiest in Britain, said on Wednesday it had suspended flights while it investigated reports of two drones flying over its airfield. Some flights being diverted as far as Paris, Amsterdam Thomson Reuters · Posted: Dec 19, 2018 7:49 PM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago A British Airways passenger aircraft prepares for take off from Gatwick Airport in southern England, in October 2016. All inbound and outbound flights were halted Wednesday night after two drones were spotted over the airfield. (Toby Melville/Reuters) Gatwick Airport, the second-busiest in Britain, said on Wednesday it had suspended flights while it investigated reports of two drones flying over its airfield. Flights due to take off remained parked on the runway, while others scheduled to land at Gatwick were diverted to other airports, according to some passengers who took to Twitter to express their annoyance over the situation. Gatwick apologized on Twitter to affected passengers, adding that safety was its "foremost priority." The airport warned the disruption was expected to continue into Thursday and advised everyone flying or collecting someone from Gatwick to check the status of their flight. Gatwick said two drones had been spotted over the airfield at 9:03 p.m., local time, and there were "multiple reports of sightings" since. The airport said it was working with Sussex Police into early Thursday to investigate and wouldn't reopen until it had "suitable reassurance." Gatwick normally operates a limited number of flights overnight. — 18 to 20 during the winter months, according to its website. The disruption comes just days before Christmas, and one of the heaviest travel times of the year. Gatwick lies 50 kilometres south of London and competes with Britain and Europe's busiest airport, Heathrow, just to the west of London. Airlive.net, a website run by aviation enthusiasts that collects and displays real-time flight data, said all incoming flights to Gatwick were being diverted to other U.K. airports, like Manchester and Birmingham, and as far away as Paris and Amsterdam. An increase in near collisions by unmanned aircraft and commercial jets has fuelled safety concerns in the aviation industry in recent years. In Britain, the number of near misses between private drones and aircraft more than tripled between 2015 and 2017, with 92 incidents recorded last year, according to the U.K. Airprox Board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Gatwick now advertised as closed until 4 pm local due to drone activity over the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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