Leeroy Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 https://www.design-engineering.com/experimental-plane-flies-silently-1004032091/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Awesome experimental plane flies silently, may lead to quiet drones Star Trek-Inspired drone produces thrust by applying a strong electric field to the air. 0November 21, 2018 The Canadian Press A general blueprint for an MIT plane propelled by ionic wind. The system may be used to propel small drones and even lightweight aircraft. (Photo courtesy of the MIT Electric Aircraft Initiative) A nearly silent, drone-sized aircraft has shown it can fly, thanks to a scientist who was inspired by watching “Star Trek” as a child. With neither propellers nor jets, the airplane gets its thrust by applying a strong electric field to the air. That general idea has been demonstrated at science fairs, but the new work shows it can power a free-flying airplane. So can people look forward to travelling in planes that are almost silent and emit no air pollution? “Not anytime soon,” says Steven Barrett of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who reported the results in a study released Wednesday by the journal Nature. It’s not clear whether the technology could work at such a large scale, he said in a telephone interview. And even if it can, it would take a few decades to develop such planes, he said. Before that, the approach might be used in airplane-like drones that perform tasks like environmental monitoring and surveillance, he said. As drones become more common in urban skies, the lack of noise would be an advantage in making them less bothersome to people on the ground, he said. The Nature paper reports the results of 10 test flights inside an MIT athletic building. With a wingspan of about 16 feet (5 metres), the five-pound (2.45-kilogram) plane sailed along at about 11 mph (17 kph). Each flight covered about 60 yards (55 metres). Barrett, 35, said he was inspired as a child by watching “Star Trek” television episodes and movies, where he was struck by the shuttles that flew with no moving parts in their propulsion systems. He recalled thinking, “There should be a way things should fly without having propellers and (jet) turbines.” As an adult, he focused on that and came across a concept called “ionic wind.” For the MIT airplane, that involves a series of thin wires at the front of the plane that generates a powerful electric field. The field strips electrons from air molecules, turning the molecules into positively charged particles called ions. Those ions flow toward negatively charged parts of plane, colliding with ordinary air molecules and transferring energy to them. That produces a wind that provides thrust for the plane, Barrett explained. A similar process has long been used in outer space to propel some spacecraft, he said. Barrett said he hopes to find a way to eliminate the “very slight buzz” one can hear. “I think they’re onto something here,” said Pat Anderson, a professor of aerospace engineering at the Daytona Beach, Florida, campus of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. He had no role in the research. He called the results impressive. But the experimental aircraft lacks the range and endurance to serve as a useful drone, and it’s not clear whether the technology could be scaled up to fix that or become useful for propelling a passenger plane, he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 ..............and it’s not clear whether the technology could be scaled up to fix that or become useful for propelling a passenger plane, he said. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specs Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Maverick said: A similar process has long been used in outer space to propel some spacecraft, he said. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 https://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/ion_prop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 16 minutes ago, boestar said: https://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/ion_prop.html Close but "no cigar" Still need a propellant (Xenon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 yes the article said "similar principle" This is ion drive outside the atmosphere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 if you go back to Star Trek (here comes my nerd face) The Ion Drive on the Starship uses the Brussard Collectors to collect gasses like Hydrogen floating free in space to use as the propellent. Its more complex than that but the science in the show is based on theoretical physics currently being studies. The ION drive is one of the bases for the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 9 hours ago, boestar said: if you go back to Star Trek (here comes my nerd face) You're not that nerdy - didn't even mention di-lithium crystals once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Unless and until this new technology can be proven to be tribble-proof, I'm not going anywhere near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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