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look you can go back and forth on this until the cows come home but in the end Blue, Red, Orange, Green or whatever, Every government will be composed of idiots that are only oout for one thing.  To live off the people of the country and spend our money like a kid in a candy store with moms credit card.

Liberals are idiots, Conservatives are idiots, NDP are idiots etc,etc,etc.

Until these groups all gather somewhere in the middle we are SCREWED. Period.

 

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"The difference between capitalism and a welfare mentality.

 

When you buy something you put money in people's pockets, and give them dignity for their skills. 

When you give someone something for nothing, you rob them of their dignity and self worth.   

Capitalism is freely giving your money in exchange for something of value. 
 
Socialism is taking your money against your will and shoving something down your throat that you never asked for."

 

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Canada is in a good place, steady, and improving.  Something to be remembered going into the election.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/the-tight-labour-market-is-fattening-canadian-workers-wallets-again-1.1292530

Canadians are starting to see a pickup in their wages, a positive sign for the domestic economy amid growing global uncertainty.

Average weekly earnings for Canadian workers rose 3.4 per cent in May from a year earlier to $1,031, the fastest pace of growth since February 2018, Statistics Canada said Thursday in Ottawa. The Survey of Employment, Payrolls and Hours also showed firms added 32,600 jobs on the month, the most since January.

The broader recovery in earnings growth is one of the last pieces to fall into place for a labour market that’s seen decade-low unemployment rates and some of the fastest job gains on record. Statistics Canada’s more timely Labor Force Survey showed hourly wages growing 3.6 per cent in June, also the fastest pace in more than a year. After accounting for inflation, real wage increases are now 1 per cent or more by both survey measures.

The boost bodes well for the domestic economy, where higher interest rates, rising debt-servicing costs and a slowing housing market damped consumption for most of 2018. Rising earnings, coupled with a recovery in house prices, should fortify household spending at a time when uncertainty and rising global trade tensions are poised to threaten Canada’s exports and business investment.

“Measures of wage growth in Canada are now more consistent with what we would expect from an economy basically at full employment,” said Dominique Lapointe at Laurentian Bank Securities in Montreal. “If the current strength continues it should support household consumption moving forward.”

Some of the improvement is being driven by a recovery in Canada’s energy sector, which pays more than most other industries. Workers in the mining, quarrying and oil and gas extraction businesses earned an average $2,298 a week in May, 13.5 per cent more than a year earlier. That’s the fastest growth for the sector since August 2014, just before a collapse in global oil prices flattened wage growth for nearly half a decade. Earnings in the finance and insurance sector rose 7.2 per cent on the year, the most since last June.

On an unadjusted basis, average earnings rose 3.7 per cent in May from a year earlier, the fastest growth in almost seven years.

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There are too many other things to be remembered going in to this election..

China, Norman, SNC Lavalin, Reconciliation vote buying, Open Border, Bombardier, Hussen to increase migrants, Toronto gang/gun crime. Aga Khan Foundation. Illegal migrants, CBC, Herr,Kang, Butts, Wernick, Omar Khadr, Hillary Cliton Foudation, India, Pipelines, Australia, Russia, Ukraine, Saudi, Fake refugees,Pipelines,Jets, Veterans, Carbon Tax, UN Global Compact for forced Replacement Migration.Nafta, Apologies, Brison, Irving Shipyards, Jody Wilson-Raybould, Katie Telford, Ben Chin, Dr Philpott, the forces clerk who told the truth about the senior offices saying 'we've been here before', the elderly woman in Quebec who was called racist because she asked about repayment for the costs of the illegal immigrants, "peoplekind", Canada has no 'core identity', I experienced it differently, committing genocide against our First Nations, Bill C69, Bill C49, "What villa in France?", Kenny's investigation into who's funding the anti-oil pipelines, $594 million MSM payoff (bribe), adds another $500 million to CBC’s annual budget as soon as he is elected, Bill C69, Bill C49, “What villa in France?”, snubs Tori Stafford’s dad Rodney who wanted her killer removed from a healing lodge and put back in prison, but welcomed alleged wife abuser and self-described “hostage” Joshua Boyle to his office; first Canadian PM guilty of not one, but two ethics violations, Bill M-103 and Islamophobia, Maryam Monsef who lied on her immigration papers about her birthplace, changed election funding rules to benefit the liberals due to poor fundraising history, then all of his caucus spends the summer campaigning on the taxpayers dime, tried to hire pre-election social media ‘influencers’ who ‘influenced towards the Liberals only, wants to control social media with his appointed panel as arbiters, large majority of “merited” judicial appointments to party donators, friends, family and neighbours, accuses six provincial premiers of “attacking national unity” (!?!), for writing him a letter with their grievances, adds $100K per year to General Vance’s annual salary after he goes after Vice-Admiral Norman, then buys Norman out, to finish the whitewash, The promise he made to Gord Downie that he would clean up the water supplies on native reserves. And when asked why nothing's being done about mercury in the water, he thanks them for their contribution to the party. DI in South Africa, "How does 50 million sound? Let's do it!", Nanny Gate, Butts and Tilfords moving charges, The deficit will fix itself, I would run deficits until at least 2042...best of all, there are still three more months for him to stick his sock in his mouth

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11 minutes ago, deicer said:

With the economy and jobs being most important, that's all static.

Was this meant for this thread or 'Trump 2.0 Continues'?

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It's for this thread because it's static.

What's going on in the Trump thread is a subversion of that countries constitution.

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As if Dug Fraud isn't doing the same for Scheer?  $13 billion in additional spending last week alone?   

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38 minutes ago, deicer said:

As if Dug Fraud isn't doing the same for Scheer?  $13 billion in additional spending last week alone?   

Yea, sure, you bet-ya.  But strangely though I don't see any news reports on that.  CBC, CTV etc.  Nothing talking about 13billion in additional spending last week by Ontario.  Lots of press though on billions of dollars in budget cuts.  

 

Mind you, since I don't live in Ontario but rather in another part of Canada, I am more concerned with the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ being promised by PM Trudeau in the hopes of gaining some additional votes for his party.

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9 hours ago, Fido said:

are you Norwegian?

Canadian.  😀  Why?  The term is mostly used in this day and age by Minnesotans

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9 hours ago, Marshall said:

by Minnesotans

Who are very much Norwegians. (Like all of my close ancestors)

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On 7/26/2019 at 10:14 AM, deicer said:

With the economy and jobs being most important, that's all static.

 

If Trudeau’s problems are just “static” and not relevant to the governance of the country, why should you be so critical of Doug Ford? Trudeau is outspending Ford by billions and has proven his virtues are dubious. Using recent federal job numbers the libs like to crow about, Ford is doing an excellent job in Ontario.

“We’re drawing in people, and that tells you how tight the labour market is,” Tony Stillo, director of Canada economics at Oxford Economics, said by phone.

Regionally, there were gains in most provinces including Alberta, which saw 21,400 jobs created. Employment in Ontario jumped by 47,000 in April, with job increases in Canada’s largest province at 205,000 over the past year. Quebec employment rose by 38,000, dropping its unemployment rate to 4.9 per cent, the lowest in data going back to 1976.

https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/newsalert-economy-adds-a-record-106500-jobs-in-april-unemployment-rate-dips

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22 hours ago, st27 said:

If Trudeau’s problems are just “static” and not relevant to the governance of the country, why should you be so critical of Doug Ford? Trudeau is outspending Ford by billions and has proven his virtues are dubious. Using recent federal job numbers the libs like to crow about, Ford is doing an excellent job in Ontario.

“We’re drawing in people, and that tells you how tight the labour market is,” Tony Stillo, director of Canada economics at Oxford Economics, said by phone.

Regionally, there were gains in most provinces including Alberta, which saw 21,400 jobs created. Employment in Ontario jumped by 47,000 in April, with job increases in Canada’s largest province at 205,000 over the past year. Quebec employment rose by 38,000, dropping its unemployment rate to 4.9 per cent, the lowest in data going back to 1976.

https://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/newsalert-economy-adds-a-record-106500-jobs-in-april-unemployment-rate-dips

The reason to be critical of Doug Ford is because now that his policies are coming into effect, the good paying jobs are being lost.  Just ask a teacher or healthcare worker, or environmental worker, or in legal aid, and the hits go on.....

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You forgot to mention the good paying jobs of pipeline workers, welders, heavy equipment mechanics, and office workers in downtown Calgary that Trudeau policies have  put out of work.

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See, this is where we differ.

Those jobs were lost not due to Trudeau, but to the fickle nature of the oil conglomerates in the U.S..  They control Alberta more than Trudeau does.

Believe what you want though...

And further,,,

If Alberta had good leadership, they would diversify their economy like other provinces have done to avoid putting all their eggs in one basket.

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Look guys.  you can go back and forth on this to your hearts content but in the end liberal or conservative you are going to get screwed in some way (not a pleasant one).

They all think their way is the better way.

None of them give a crap about the middle class no matter what the sound bites say.

All of their friends and cronies are getting rich with YOUR money no matter who occupies the chair.

The whole time we play Red team blue team, WE are the ones taking the fall.  This country needs to move somewhere back to the center where rational thought can actually take place. No matter what side you are on, far right and far left policies do NOTHING for our Country.

That being said, There is no party on the ballot that fits the bill.....again.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, boestar said:

This country needs to move somewhere back to the center where rational thought can actually take place.

Canadian political parties....from Left to Right

The choice for Canadians will be simple imo.

 

Liberals...NDP...Green.....................................................................Conservatives.........................................PPC..................Bloc 

 

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Liberals grow the ranks of permanently gagged public servants

The Privy Council Office recently bound another 94 current and former staffers to a lifetime of secrecy

The Liberal government has been expanding the number of public servants subject to lifetime gag orders, placing them under threat of hefty prison sentences should they spill any secrets before they die.

Since December, the Privy Council Office has designated at least 94 individuals, some of whom no longer work for the federal government, as "persons permanently bound to secrecy" or PPBS — a binding legal order intended to enforce their silence.

The group all had access to confidential, security-related information while working at the Privy Council Office or the Prime Minister's Office, and some were served with official notice of the gag order after they had left their jobs.

Each of them was individually identified by their boss or former boss as knowing secrets about national security, and therefore requiring a gag order that is retroactive — preventing them from talking about their work before the gag order was issued. 

Each was also presented with a three-page notice to sign and return, many using a pre-paid, pre-addressed envelope that was enclosed.

CBC News learned about the latest round of lifetime gag orders through a request under the Access to Information Act, and some details have been confirmed by a government spokesperson.

Gagged for life

A heavily redacted memorandum for the clerk of the Privy Council dated Dec. 19, 2016, also shows another 145 Privy Council Office staffers have been subject to blanket gag orders under the Security of Information Act since 2014 because of the nature of their roles.

These individuals were automatically gagged for life because they work in units that are designated as sensitive and are routinely exposed to secrets, unlike the 94 who were selectively added to the gag list because they are only sometimes given secret information.

The Privy Council Office declined to provide more information about the 94, including how many may have worked in former prime minister Stephen Harper's office.

"Further disclosure of information could lead to security risks, potentially placing Canadians at risk," spokesperson Paul Duchesne said in an email.

The briefing note for the clerk indicates the Privy Council Office expects to add about 30 individuals each year to the ranks of "persons permanently bound to secrecy."

A separate group of more than 200 Canadian military personnel and federal workers have also been hit with lifetime gag orders since early last year. These individuals all work in the controversial program to replace Canada's fighter jets.

 
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After a formal question submitted in the House of Commons by Conservative MP James Bezan, the government acknowledged more than 200 public servants have been gagged for life regarding their work in procuring new fighter jets. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

The number was elicited by Conservative defence critic James Bezan through a formal House of Commons procedure that requires a minister to answer an MP's question. Insiders called the gag orders an extraordinary and unnecessary measure.

Of the 235 staffers disclosed to Bezan, 121 work for National Defence and 13 work for the Privy Council Office. It's not clear whether any of the 13 at Privy Council are also counted in the clerk's memo.

Myth of the 'eternal secret'

In total, these most recent reports add at least another 361 public servants who risk up to 14 years in prison if they ever discuss the secrets of their time in government, whether in memoirs or at family reunions.

Security and intelligence historian Wesley Wark says the gagging system under the Security of Information Act of 2001 is unworkable and poorly conceived.

It "rests on an idea that there is such a thing as a permanent or eternal secret," the University of Ottawa professor said. "This is clearly a myth and an unhelpful one."

 
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Wesley Wark, a security and intelligence historian at the University of Ottawa, says the gag provisions of the Security of Information Act are outdated and rob Canadians of their history.

He says the concept "robs Canada of an ability to learn from the experience of officials with a deep knowledge of security and intelligence issues" and "creates a chill around the publication of memoirs and other forms of organized memory and commentary."

"It is a very old-fashioned system, rooted in long-ago British practice and has not been updated."

Wark says the law needs to be rewritten to ensure the gag provisions apply only to select categories of highly sensitive intelligence, among other reforms.

But Duchesne of the PCO says there are no plans to change the system.

"Designation of PMO and PCO employees will continue, as required in the interests of security," he said. "Both PCO and PMO take the protection of information very seriously, which is why both ensure that those who have access to special operational information are permanently bound to secrecy."

On May 11, historians and their supporters launched a petition to the federal government, calling for millions of documents that have spent decades in departmental filing cabinets to be turned over to Library and Archives Canada.

The petition's initiator, Dennis Molinaro of Trent University, told CBC News "the government seems to be, in essence, running some kind of secret or shadow archive."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/privy-council-prime-minister-s-office-secrecy-gag-security-information-wark-1.4139309

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Yes, Canadians ARE that stupid as he somehow still has 31.9% that support this idiot.

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Andrew Coyne: Evidence grows that the Harper gang had nothing on this Liberal bunch

As recent events have shown, the same ingredients that produced the SNC-Lavalin scandal remain very much in place in the prime minister’s office

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Supposedly, the Liberals have put the SNC-Lavalin scandal behind them: the polls have rebounded, the media have moved on, while the company has worse problems to deal with than a mere hair-raising multi-million-dollar corruption charge.

Even the return of Gerry Butts, the prime minister’s former principal secretary, albeit in a part-time, temporary, what-are-friends-for capacity as adviser to the party’s election campaign, seems to have caused little stir, although he was one of two senior government officials to resign over their part in the affair.

Perhaps the Liberals have concluded the passage of time is enough to earn them a pass from the public. I mean this all took place, what, four months ago? Who even remembers that far back?

But as recent events have shown, the same ingredients that combined to produce the SNC-Lavalin scandal — hubris, a maniacal desire to run everything from the centre, and an unwillingness, in all this overweeningness and control-freakery, to be bound by basic legal and procedural norms — remain very much in place in the prime minister’s office.

For starters, there is the affair of the two ex-ambassadors. First, David Mulroney, Canada’s ambassador to China from 2009 to 2012, then his successor, Guy Saint-Jacques, reported a senior official in the Global Affairs department had called them to demand they clear any public comments on the government’s policy towards China with the government.

Both men are now private citizens. Both have been critical of the government’s handling of the China file. Unlike the most recent former ambassador, former Liberal cabinet minister John McCallum, neither has framed his comments on Sino-Canadian relations in terms of what would assist in the re-election of the Liberals. Apparently, that was the problem.

The official, assistant deputy minister Paul Thoppil, claimed to be speaking on behalf of the PMO and explicitly cited “the election environment” as a reason to shut up. Oh, also the current state of “high tension” between the two countries, presumably over China’s seizure of two Canadians as hostages, which supposedly made it essential for everyone in Canada, whether in the government’s employ or not, to “speak with one voice,” i.e., refrain from criticizing the government.

As a China policy, this has the advantage of closely resembling the Chinese way of doing things. It’s hard to say which is the more extraordinary: the notion that private citizens should be compelled to clear their criticisms of the government with the government, or the notion that they could be.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-evidence-grows-that-the-harper-gang-had-nothing-on-this-liberal-bunch

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Yep, Canada is waking up to the lament suffered by Ontario.  

https://www.thestar.com/politics/provincial/2019/07/14/more-voters-say-fords-policies-will-deter-them-for-voting-for-scheer.html

A growing number of Ontario voters say the policies of the Ford government make them less likely to vote for Andrew Scheer’s Conservatives in the fall federal election, says a new poll that has been tracking the issue.

In June, 54 per cent of those polled by Corbett Communications said they felt that way, but now 60 per cent do.

Among Ontarians who have voted Conservative in past federal elections, almost 20 per cent say the Ontario government makes them wary of doing so again.

“This is something Scheer is desperately afraid of and it hasn’t gotten any better,” said veteran pollster John Corbett. “It’s gotten worse … if things keep going like that, he has already lost Ontario.”

The poll, conducted July 9 and 10 amid the ongoing patronage controversy in the Ford government, was conducted using Maru/Blue’s Maru Voice Canada online panel, which is opt-in.

With a sample size of 481, a comparable margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

Critics have seized on linking the two leaders, given the massive unpopularity of Ford and his policies in Ontario.

Earlier last month, attack ads seen by millions of Canadians during the NBA playoffs portrayed Scheer as a puppet of Ford.

Scheer later told the Star’s Robert Benzie that he is his “own” man and “very optimistic about the chances of winning … a lot of seats back in Ontario.”

He also said “the difference in this federal election is going to be between myself and Justin Trudeau,” distancing himself from Ford.

“I am my own person. I have my own style. I have my own approach. We’re going to be laying out our own policies,” he said.

Scheer also said voters could “avoid the types of tough decisions that are happening in Ontario” by voting Conservative on Oct. 21.

Corbett called it a tough situation for Scheer “who can’t do anything … all Ford has to do is exist and be the premier to cause bad feelings … shy of Ford leaving the office, he’s going to have this downward pressure on Scheer’s vote.”

The poll found that among respondents, 38 per cent would vote Liberal in the federal election, 33 per cent would vote Conservative, with the NDP and Greens at just over 10 per cent each.

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