st27 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 First good vfr day in a couple weeks and sad end for 2 aircraft: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-respond-after-plane-crash-in-ottawa-1.4891149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 One of the aircraft was a Piper Cheyenne III. It landed safely at YOW with obvious damage to the right main landing gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Was the downed aircraft a high wing Cessna type aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Apparently it was a C150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 The accident happened at Carp...anybody know who has a Cheyenne based there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 There is one PA-42 registered to an owner in Carp. They’re a real estate developer. https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/2/ccarcs-riacc/ADet.aspx?id=526383&rfr=RchSimpRes.aspx?cn=||&mn=PA42|&sn=||&on=||&m=|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=217284 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Thanks JO. The report posted by JO seems to indicate the Cessna at least was being maneuvered in the direction of its respective blind-spot. I haven't looked at stats, but I believe they'd tell us blind maneuvering has been a factor in a number of midairs over the years. I've flown three single Cessna types. Excepting the C-177, I never felt too comfortable in the 150 & 172 because of the restricted visibility above the aircraft and especially in turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I found it interesting that the Cheyenne reported being hit from below....the approach speed on the twin would be maybe 110 vs 70 for a 150 .... ???? See and be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Not the first time a high wing aircraft has hit / been hit by a low wing above it. Both are blind in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I suspect the faster Cheyenne descended upon the 150 (in the circuit) as why else would the twin's landing gear be extended? The poor fellow in the 150 probably didn't see it coming. Condolences to his family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 13 hours ago, Moon The Loon said: I suspect the faster Cheyenne descended upon the 150 (in the circuit) as why else would the twin's landing gear be extended? The poor fellow in the 150 probably didn't see it coming. Condolences to his family and friends. That is the case more often than no in these incidents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Maybe, maybe not. I’ve been the one in a similarly faster aircraft trying to fit in safely at an uncontrolled airport. Especially on weekends, the greatest hazard we faced was the infrequent flyer who couldn’t be bothered to use the radio to broadcast their intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, J.O. said: Maybe, maybe not. I’ve been the one in a similarly faster aircraft trying to fit in safely at an uncontrolled airport. Especially on weekends, the greatest hazard we faced was the infrequent flyer who couldn’t be bothered to use the radio to broadcast their intentions. All true Jeff. I have it on good authority that the gentleman at the controls of his owned C150 was a seasoned former commercial pilot and meticulous in his procedures, downsized from his formerly owned aircraft. Regardless, all this is speculation. The radar imagery logs and the testimony of other pilots on the frequency might tell the full (or fuller) story. Truly though, a sad accident for everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Agreed, tragic all around. I can’t imagine what the deceased man’s family and the Cheyenne pilot are going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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