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Cheap cross Canada flights are one thing but planning a sun destination with Flair wouldn't be my first choice.

What is their IROPs recovery when a lone based aircraft goes U/S?

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55 minutes ago, Maverick said:

Nice of you to dredge up the same delay again, Malcolm.

There's a thread already but you knew that.

https://theairlinewebsite.com/topic/436257-westjet-60-hour-delay-from-lgw/

 

Always happy to share but you missed my point and that was many carriers , even those with more than one aircraft, have the same problem which is why I highlighted both WestJet and AirCanada but of course you only reacted to the one about WestJet. I guess in your eyes, AirCanada is fair game but not your beloved WestJet. Go Figure. 😎

You seem to think I am biased against WestJet but if I was,  why would my wife and I be flying (full fare of course) in the near future on WestJet? 

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5 hours ago, Malcolm said:

Always happy to share but you missed my point and that was many carriers , even those with more than one aircraft, have the same problem which is why I highlighted both WestJet and AirCanada but of course you only reacted to the one about WestJet. I guess in your eyes, AirCanada is fair game but not your beloved WestJet. Go Figure. 😎

You seem to think I am biased against WestJet but if I was,  why would my wife and I be flying (full fare of course) in the near future on WestJet? 

No other suitable alternative? I'm just trying to help!

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37 minutes ago, UpperDeck said:

No other suitable alternative? I'm just trying to help!

The alternate was there, the price was the same, no difference in overall service,  but the WestJet time was 30 mins better for our next connection. Our return flight is on Ac again at full fare.

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‎Today, ‎November ‎10, ‎2018, ‏‎2 minutes ago
 

Flair Airlines Launches First US Flight

 
‎Today, ‎November ‎10, ‎2018, ‏‎16 minutes ago | Peter Muir

Low Fare Airlines hosts huge party for an on-time departure to its first US flight to Vegas

November 08, 2018 13:10 ET | Source: Flair Airlines

Edmonton – Las Vegas, Nov. 08, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — November 8, 2018

5-couples-getting-married-courtesy-of-flair-1024x683.jpgFlair Airlines (Edmonton, AB): Flair, Canada’s low-fare airline, today, launched its first US-bound flight when Flight 777 left Edmonton International Airport for Las Vegas, Nevada. As Edmonton’s ‘hometown airline’ Flair’s inaugural trip to ‘Sin City’ was sold-out with a crowd of excited passengers.

Flair’s Executive Chairman, David Tait, stated, “Today is a momentous day in our history as it the first of our multiple new trans-border services.” In December Flair will begin flying to Palm Springs, Miami, Orlando and Phoenix/Mesa.

“EIA is honoured to host Flair’s first scheduled US flight,” said Tom Ruth, Edmonton International Airport President and CEO. “Las Vegas is an incredibly popular destination with travellers from the Edmonton Metro Region, Western Canada and the North.”

IMG_0514.jpgFlair also announced that on the return flight from Vegas to Edmonton the airline will host some 30 Nevada delegates who will attend the Alberta-Nevada B2B Matchmaking Program, hosted by Alberta Economic Development and Trade, in cooperation with Edmonton International Airport, Edmonton Global, Calgary Economic Development, the Nevada Governor’s Office of Economic Development, and the Nevada Institute of Autonomous Systems.

The B2B Alberta-Nevada all-day meeting on Nov. 9th was inspired by the offer extended from Flair to fly US government and business delegates from Las Vegas to Edmonton – as the airline’s guests.  “We’re delighted that so many international trade delegates and State Senator James Ohrenshall have taken advantage of our offer to enhance the business relationship between Alberta and Nevada,” stated Tait.

Flair Airlines flight 777 was welcomed in Vegas to the salute of water cannons, Elvis, and Showgirls.  “We are pleased to welcome Flair Airlines to McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas and wish it great success with these new air service offerings from Edmonton,” said Chris Jones, chief marketing officer for the Clark County Department of Aviation.

Flair-Plane-1024x683.jpg“We are excited to welcome new seasonal flights from Canada with our latest travel partner, Flair Airlines,” said Cathy Tull, chief marketing officer for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority. “Canada has nearly 1.5 million visitors to Las Vegas annually and as such represents our largest source of international visitors. Flair’s new service will provide further access and convenience for our Canadian friends to see why Las Vegas is the perfect escape this winter.”

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Flair Airlines Ltd. carrying on business as Flair Air, on behalf of itself and Travel Service, a.s. - approval pursuant to section 60 of the CTA and section 8.2 of the ATR

 
‎Today, ‎November ‎23, ‎2018, ‏‎43 minutes ago
<h3>APPLICATION</h3> <p>Flair, on behalf of itself and Travel Service, has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an approval to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on December 1, 2018 to April 30, 2019.</p> <p>Flair is licensed to operate a scheduled international service, large aircraft, in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007.</p> <p>In its application filed on October 12, 2018, Flair states that it had 7 aircraft on its Air Operator Certificate (AOC) at the time of application.<br /> <h3>POLICY</h3> <p>When assessing wet-lease applications where Canadian carriers propose to enter into wet lease arrangements of more than 30 days with foreign carriers to provide international passenger services, the Agency must apply a direction issued by the Minister of Transport on June 24, 2014 entitled <em>Ministerial Direction for International Service – Canada's Policy for Wet-Leasing</em> (2014 Wet Lease Policy), and must specifically ensure that the 20-percent cap is respected at the time of application. The 2014 Wet-Lease Policy also states that the Agency should condition or deny an application if Canadian air carriers do not enjoy reciprocal opportunities to wet lease in the foreign jurisdiction of the lessor.<br /> <h3>PRELIMINARY MATTER</h3> <p>In its guide <em>Applying for Wet-Lease Approval</em>, the Agency indicated that it "intends to notify the industry in Canada of an application for any wet-lease approval when it deems, at its own discretion, there to be potential issues with respect to reciprocity or other matters not yet addressed by the Agency."</p> <p>On matters of international reciprocity, the Agency's general practice is that reciprocity by the authorities of the lessor's country of origin, in this case the Czech Republic, is assumed unless evidence is brought to the contrary. The Agency is not aware of any similar application by a Canadian carrier to the aeronautical authorities of the European Union and its Member States that has been denied.</p> <p>Upon review of the application, the Agency determined that it did not raise issues with respect to reciprocity or other matters not yet addressed by the Agency. Consequently, the Agency did not provide notice to seek comments from industry in respect of the application.<br /> <h3>ISSUE</h3> <p>Is the Agency satisfied that the application of Flair meets the requirements of section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr> and the criteria of the 2014 Wet Lease Policy, specifically the 20 percent cap?<br /> <h3>ANALYSIS AND FINDINGS</h3> <p>Section 60 of the CTA requires that a licensee obtain, where prescribed, an approval from the Agency prior to using aircraft with flight crew provided by another person.</p> <p>Section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr> sets out the information to be included in an application and the requirements to be met for an approval pursuant to section 60 of the CTA.</p> <p>Pursuant to the 2014 Wet-Lease Policy, for wet-leases of more than 30 days, a number of aircraft equal to 20 percent of the number of Canadian registered aircraft on the lessee´s AOC may be wet leased from foreign lessors. The Agency notes that at the time of the application, i.e., October 12, 2018, Flair had 7 aircraft on its AOC. Therefore, Flair's application meets the 20-percent cap requirement of the 2014 Wet-Lease Policy.</p> <p>The Agency has considered the application and the material in support and is satisfied that it meets the requirements of section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</p> <p>Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 60(1)(b) of the CTA and section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>, approves the use by Flair of one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, and the provision by Travel Service of such aircraft and flight crew to Flair, to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service on licensed routes between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft and flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on December 1, 2018 to April 30, 2019.</p> <p>This approval is subject to the following conditions:</p> <ol> <li>Flair shall continue to hold the valid licence authority.</li> <li>Commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by Flair. Travel Service shall maintain operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of the aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula.</li> <li>Flair and Travel Service shall continue to comply with the insurance requirements set out in subsections 8.2(4), 8.2(5) and 8.2(6) of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</li> <li>Flair shall continue to comply with the public disclosure requirements set out in section 8.5 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</li> <li>Flair and Travel Service shall advise the Agency in advance of any changes to the information provided in support of the application.</li> </ol>
 

Flair Airlines Ltd. carrying on business as Flair Air, on behalf of itself and Travel Service, a.s. - approval pursuant to section 60 of the CTA and section 8.2 of the ATR

 
‎Today, ‎November ‎23, ‎2018, ‏‎2 hours ago
<p>Flair, on behalf of itself and Travel Service, has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an approval to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on December 1 to December 30, 2018.</p> <p>Flair is licensed to operate a scheduled international service, large aircraft, in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007.</p> <p>The Agency has considered the application and the material in support and is satisfied that it meets the requirements of section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</p> <p>Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 60(1)(b) of the CTA and section 8.2 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>, approves the use by Flair of one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, and the provision by Travel Service of such aircraft and flight crew to Flair, to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service on licensed routes between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft and flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on December 1 to December 30, 2018.</p> <p>This approval is subject to the following conditions:</p> <ol> <li>Flair shall continue to hold the valid licence authority.</li> <li>Commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by Flair. Travel Service shall maintain operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of the aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula.</li> <li>Flair and Travel Service shall continue to comply with the insurance requirements set out in subsections 8.2(4), 8.2(5) and 8.2(6) of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</li> <li>Flair shall continue to comply with the public disclosure requirements set out in section 8.5 of the <abbr title="Air Transportation Regulations">ATR</abbr>.</li> <li>Flair and Travel Service shall advise the Agency in advance of any changes to the information provided in support of the application.</li> </ol>

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So the wages are unfair and now there is strike notice. If the strike does happen, the really unfair bit will be that the airline might not survive.

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CUPE issues 72-hour strike notice to Flair Airlines

 
‎Yesterday, ‎December ‎7, ‎2018, ‏‎6:18:41 PM | Peter Muir

News provided by Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE)/Canada Newswire

Union cites company’s two-tier wage, benefit structure for breakdown in bargaining

BURNABY, BC, Dec. 7, 2018 /CNW/ – The Canadian Union of Public Employees has filed 72-hour strike notice for Local 4060, representing 139 flight attendants who work for ultra-low-cost carrier Flair Airlines.

The union issued the strike notice following a December 5 mediated session with the employer in which the two sides failed to reach agreement over outstanding items including wages and pensions as well as time credits/scheduling issues.

“For the past several weeks, this employer has steadfastly refused to step away from its position of two-tier wages and benefits, which is fundamentally unfair,” said CUPE National Representative Gary Yee, who represents CUPE 4060 at the bargaining table.

“Flair is transparently engaging in a divide and conquer strategy aimed at driving a wedge between workers in order to compete with other ultra-low-cost carriers. It is completely unfair to pay one group of flight attendants 30 per cent less for doing the same work as other flight attendants.”

Since being organized November 2017, Local 4060 has been in bargaining with the airline for nearly a year.

The 72-hour-strike notice expires at midnight on December 10, putting the local in a legal strike position.

For more information, see backgrounder.

SOURCE Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE)

 

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34 minutes ago, MD2 said:

Oh dear, as I recall CUPE did not reach an agreement with Canada 3000 right to the bitter end.

That is correct MD2. The lead C3 CUPE negotiator thought he was arguing for a new contract rather than helping to keep an airline alive. All of the other labour groups were on board.

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How about this in an era of Fake News

The CBC gets it right:

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Union representing Flair Airlines flight attendants issues strike notice

 
‎Today, ‎December ‎8, ‎2018, ‏‎2 hours ago | CBC News

But Global does not:

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December 8, 2018 4:35 pm

Updated: December 8, 2018 4:37 pm

Flight disruptions possible Monday as Flair Airlines issues 72-hour strike notice

headshot2.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w=40& By Simon Little Online Journalist  Global News

 

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The green light of greed...apparently one of CUPE top negotiators was heard saying that he didn't care if Canada 3000 went under, his mortgage was already paid off! I realize that's hearsay or he may have said that in the heat of the moment, but the mindset is very important.

What people often don't get is that there is such a thing as pricing themselves out of the market. Apparently Flair had to adjust its rates to its competitors, as did Porter recently. That is fair business. If a company prices its costs out of its market, then it cannot function and has to close its doors. So then what's the point of having higher pay if it doesn't last? There is a fine balance in negotiations and a group does not need a union to achieve it!

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"As with any labour dispute after bargaining has broken down, our intent with the job action was to put pressure on the employer while it continued to operate the airline," said Yee. "But Flair's threats of possible illegal actions could jeopardize our members' job security, and we can't allow that to happen."

 

What pure nonsense!

It's not hard for Flair to win this. All it has to do is to compare its pay with its competitors. CUPE may even lose the "grandfather" clause! 

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Flair Airlines Expands to the USA

 
‎Today, ‎December ‎17, ‎2018, ‏‎1 hour ago | Peter Muir

Provided by Flair Airlines/Globe Newswire

The addition of six US destinations nearly doubles the airline’s route network for the winter

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17 December 2018 – Flair Airlines (Edmonton, AB): Flair, Canada’s only independent low-fare airline, is the first carrier in the history of  both Edmonton International Airport and Winnipeg International Airport to offer non-stop service to Miami, Florida.  In addition to Miami, Flair launched non-stop flights from Winnipeg, Edmonton and Toronto to destinations like Orlando, Phoenix/Mesa, Las Vegas, St.Pete/Tampa Bay, and Palm Springs this weekend.

Over the last twelve months, Flair has rapidly expanded its network and fleet to include newly leased Boeing 737-800NG aircraft. Two of these three aircraft are presently operating flights to the US. Since June, Flair has also welcomed almost 100 new staff to accommodate this rapid growth.  This winter, to destinations like Las Vegas, the airline offers US flights for as low as $99*one-way.

Flair’s Executive Chairman, David Tait, commented, “We’ve been overwhelmed by the terrific support of Canadians and are delighted to offer six popular – snow-free – southern destinations; all with low fares.”

“Flair has been a welcome addition to Winnipeg Richardson International Airport, and these new routes exemplify their commitment to our city,” said Barry Rempel, President and CEO of Winnipeg Airports Authority. “Our mission is to connect Winnipeg and the surrounding region to the world. As a result of our partnership with Flair, travellers now have more options, to more sunny destinations this winter and beyond.”

“Fresh on the heels of its inaugural US service to Las Vegas, Flair’s announcement of four new US routes is creating exceptional travel options for the Edmonton Metro Region,” said Tom Ruth, President and CEO of Edmonton International Airport. “Multiple routes and low fares make air travel more accessible while supporting tourism, business growth and continued investment in our region.”

“We proudly welcome Flair and its new routes to the Miami service area,” said Lester Sola, Miami-Dade Aviation Department Director and CEO. “South Florida residents can now choose from multiple options for travel to Canada.”

As a scheduled airline, Flair has flown more than 1.3 million passengers throughout Canada. Today is a significant milestone as the independently owned airline makes major strides into the U.S.

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December 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Non-stop flights now available from Winnipeg to Miami, Tampa Bay

sharon.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w=40&h=4 By Sharon Pfeifer Online Producer  Global News
 
 
 
 
&lt;img class="story-img" src="https://shawglobalnews.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/fleet-m3.jpg?quality=70&amp;#038;strip=all&amp;#038;w=282" alt="Low cost carrier Flair Airlines now offers direct flights to Miami and Tampa Bay from Winnipeg." /&gt;;

Low cost carrier Flair Airlines now offers direct flights to Miami and Tampa Bay from Winnipeg.

 

It just got easier for people in Winnipeg to get to warmer destinations.

Flair Airlines announced Monday they are the first carrier in the history of the Winnipeg airport to offer non-stop service to Miami and Tampa Bay, Fla.

Up until now, the only direct route to Florida out of James Armstrong Richardson International Airport (YWG) has been to Orlando with other airlines.

While Air Canada and WestJet do offer flights to Miami, they route through Toronto.

Low-fare carrier Swoop does fly to the tropics, but only with stops in Hamilton or Edmonton.

 

“We’ve been overwhelmed by the wonderful support of the Winnipeg community and starting today we’re thrilled to offer Manitobans non-stop service to five wonderful — snow-free — southern destinations,” said Flair’s Executive Chairman David Tait in a statement.

The budget airline will fly direct from Richardson International to Miami, Tampa Bay, and Orlando. They also now offer service to Mesa/Phoenix, Arizona. They began flying to Las Vegas in November.

 

The low-cost airfare carrier bought out NewLeaf, which offered deals out of Winnipeg, in June of 2017.

Flair said they have hired some 100 new employees since June of this year, and now serves seven cities across Canada and six in the U.S. with more than 200 flights a week.

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Determination No. A-2018-277

December 31, 2018
 

APPLICATION by Flair Airlines Ltd. carrying on business as Flair Air (Flair), on behalf of itself and Travel Service, a.s. (Travel Service), pursuant to section 60 of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, as amended (CTA), and section 8.2 of the Air Transportation Regulations, SOR/88-58, as amended (ATR).

 
Case number: 
18-07073
 

Flair, on behalf of itself and Travel Service, has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an approval to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on January 1, 2019 to January 31, 2019.

Flair is licensed to operate a scheduled international service, large aircraft, in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007.

The Agency has considered the application and the material in support and is satisfied that it meets the requirements of section 8.2 of the ATR.

Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 60(1)(b) of the CTA and section 8.2 of the ATR, approves the use by Flair of one aircraft with flight crew provided by Travel Service, and the provision by Travel Service of such aircraft and flight crew to Flair, to permit Flair to provide its scheduled international service on licensed routes between Canada and the United States of America using one aircraft and flight crew provided by Travel Service, beginning on January 1, 2019 to January 31, 2019.

This approval is subject to the following conditions:

  1. Flair shall continue to hold the valid licence authority.
  2. Commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by Flair. Travel Service shall maintain operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of the aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula.
  3. Flair and Travel Service shall continue to comply with the insurance requirements set out in subsections 8.2(4), 8.2(5) and 8.2(6) of the ATR.
  4. Flair shall continue to comply with the public disclosure requirements set out in section 8.5 of the ATR.
  5. Flair and Travel Service shall advise the Agency in advance of any changes to the information provided in support of the application.

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Flair Airlines Marks Record-Setting Year

 
‎Yesterday, ‎January ‎3, ‎2019, ‏‎8:55:48 PM | Peter Muir

Provided by Flair Airlines/Globe Newswire

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Edmonton, AB, Jan. 03, 2019 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Canada’s only independent low-fare airline, Flair Airlines marked its first full year of scheduled operations with considerable growth.

Over the course of the year, the airline:

  • Added 114 more flights per week
  • Doubled its fleet from five to ten aircraft
  • Safely carried almost a million passengers
  • Flew coast-to-coast from ten Canadian cities over the summer
  • Added six US destinations to its winter schedule

“The past year has been one of steady growth for us,” said Jim Scott, President & CEO, Flair Airlines. “We more than doubled the number of flights per week we fly, ensuring travellers have access to affordable air travel to our 13 destinations across North America.”

Laying the Foundation for Success

To accommodate its transition from charter to scheduled carrier, Flair moved its headquarters to Edmonton, AB, proudly becoming Edmonton’s hometown airline. The partnership with Edmonton International Airport and relocation to Alberta’s capital ensure the airline has the tools to support the company’s ambitious growth strategy. Since the relocation, the airline recruited more than 100 employees, more than doubling its headcount.

The company’s growth plan was on display as it launched transborder operations in November, with its Edmonton to Las Vegas service. The addition of new destinations and routes continued in December with Palm Springs, Phoenix-Mesa, Orlando, Miami and St. Pete-Clearwater joining the airline’s route map.

“When we started the year, we were a domestic airline focused on giving Canadians a long-waited affordable travel option,” added Scott. “Our growth into an international carrier has been met with tremendous support. Canadians can now travel to US sun destinations with their loved ones, something they might not have been able to afford a year ago.”

Looking Forward

In December, Flair Airlines welcomed its future: the Boeing 737-800NG. The new generation aircraft will  carry more passengers, lower fuel costs and fly longer distances.

“The 737-800NG is Flair’s flight path to the future,” said Scott. “Lower fuel costs ensure we can keep our fares down and the longer range means we can fly more passengers non-stop to more distant destinations.”

The airline expects to add more flights, destinations, routes and aircraft to its roster throughout 2019, and plans to increase its employee base to support the growth.

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