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MEDIA OUTLETS CHOOSE NOT TO COVER DEM. CONGRESSMAN JOKING ABOUT THE PRESIDENT DROWNING

Many media outlets chose not to cover Congressman Alcee Hastings’ (D-Fla.) disturbing joke about President Trump drowning during a Florida rally over the weekend.

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC devoted zero airtime to the incident as of Monday afternoon.

Fox News was the only news outlet to present the clip during a Monday segment of “Fox and Friends.”

“The double standard. Imagine if a Republican said that about in a Democrat office,” Ainsley Earhardt stated. “Imagine if a Republican stood up at a podium said that about President Obama — the last administration. What would be the outcry? Would it be all over the other networks?” (RELATED: Dem Rep. Alcee Hastings Jokes About President Trump Drowning In The Potomac River)

 

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/20/media-dem-trump-drowing/

 

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U.S. media landscape is a mess

As the media environment blurs, confusion reigns,

  • Calgary Herald
  • 21 Aug 2018
  • David Bauder writes.
CHIP SOMODEVILLA/GETTY IMAGES White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the media “attacked” her, but she failed to say they were by opinion panels, not news programs.

NEW YORK A generation or so ago, the likes of Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings and Diane Sawyer were the heroes of television news. Now the biggest stars are arguably Sean Hannity and Rachel Maddow.

Notice the difference? Cronkite, Jennings and Sawyer reported the news. Hannity and Maddow talk about the news, and occasionally make it. But you never doubt how they feel about it.

In a chaotic U.S. media landscape, with traditional guideposts stripped away by technology and new business models, the old lines between journalism and commentary are growing ever fuzzier. As U.S. President Donald Trump rewrites the rules of engagement to knock the media off stride, he’s found a receptive audience among his supporters for complaints about “fake news” and journalists who are “enemies of the people.”

In such a climate, is it any wonder people seem to be having a hard time distinguishing facts from points of view, and sometimes from outright fiction? It’s a conclusion that is driving anger at the news media as a whole. Last week, it produced a co-ordinated effort by a collection of U.S. newspapers to hit back at perceptions that they are somehow unpatriotic.

“We don’t have a communications and public sphere that can discern between fact and opinion, between serious journalists and phonies,” says Stephen J.A. Ward, author of 10 books on the media, including the upcoming Ethical Journalism in a Populist Age.

Not long ago — think back 30 years — the U.S. news business had a certain order to it.

Evening newscasts on ABC, CBS and NBC gave straightforward accounts of the day’s events, and morning shows told you what had happened while you slept. Newspapers flourished, with sections clearly marked for news and editorial pages for opinion. The one cable network, in its infancy, followed the play-it-straight rules of the big broadcasters. There was no internet, no social media feed, no smartphone with headlines flashing.

Today, many newspapers are diminished. People are as likely to find articles through links on social media posted by friends and celebrities. Three U.S. TV news channels, two with firmly established points of view, air an endless loop of politically laced talk. There’s no easy escape from a 24-hour-a-day news culture.

The internet’s emergence has made the media far more democratic — for good and ill. There are many more voices to hear. But the loudest ones frequently get the most attention.

“No one can control the flow of information across social media and the internet media,” says George Campbell, a 53-year-old business consultant from Chicago. “This has led to a confusion about fact vs. fake. But mostly, it has resulted in a cash cow for conspiracy makers.”

Let’s not neglect the memorable journalism that the Trump era has produced all across the country. Many newspapers are far from “failing,” as Trump often claims about the scoop-hungry shops at The New York Times and The Washington Post. The number of digital subscribers to the Times has jumped from below one million in 2015 to more than 2.4 million now.

The cable networks have turned politics into prime-time entertainment, and it’s been both great for business and polarizing: Fox News Channel (from the right) and MSNBC (from the left) are frequently the most-watched cable networks in the U.S.

For many years, those network executives did a delicate dance. The stations were news during the day, opinion at night. But with the opinion shows so successful — shouting what you believe tends to “pop” more than facts — it has become harder to suppress those identities. Even when different sides are given, the hours are filled with opinionated people giving their takes.

A recent White House briefing illustrates how the Trump administration has plucked examples from the endless talk feed in its campaign against the media.

When press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders rebuffed CNN reporter Jim Acosta’s attempt to have her renounce Trump’s attacks on the press, she noted that she’s been attacked personally by “the media” more than once, including by CNN.

Both of Sanders’ references had nothing to do with news reporting, and a lot to do with expressions of opinion. One of them, for example, came from an MSNBC appearance by Jennifer Rubin, a Washington Post columnist paid specifically to give her take on things.

But that kind of distinction blurs when it’s decoupled from the newspaper columns and appears in the wild of social media feeds.

“I don’t blame the public for being confused,” said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, communications professor and director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania.

In a heated news environment, journalists are left to find descriptions for things they haven’t seen before. CNN’s Anderson Cooper called Trump’s performance in a joint news conference with Russia’s Vladimir Putin “disgraceful” after both leaders left a Helsinki stage this summer. For Cooper, it was a moment of truth-telling. For the president’s supporters, it was a brash embrace of bias.

The Pew Research Center conducted an experiment earlier this year. It presented more than 5,000 adults with five statements of fact and five opinions and asked them to identify which was which. Only 26 per cent of respondents correctly identified the five facts, and 35 per cent identified the five opinions as such.

The survey suggested that people exist in different realities. For instance, 63 per cent of Republicans correctly said the statement “Barack Obama was born in the United States” was a fact. Meanwhile, 37 per cent of Democrats incorrectly identified the statement “increasing the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour is essential for the health of the U.S. economy” as fact, not opinion.

“Overall, Americans have some ability to separate what is factual from what is opinion,” says Amy Mitchell, Pew’s director of journalism research. “But the gaps across population groups raise caution, especially given all we know about news consumers’ tendency to feel worn out by the amount of news there is these days, and to dip briefly into and out of news rather than engage deeply with it.”

Another contributing factor to confusion is the way news articles often lose their context when spread on Twitter feeds and other social media, Jamieson said. Opinion and news stories live in the same space, sometimes clearly marked, sometimes not.

One Facebook feed, for example, linked to a Los Angeles Times article with the headline, “In a strikingly ignorant tweet, Trump gets almost everything about California wildfires wrong ” and gave no indication that it was an opinion piece.

For many people, the editors and news producers who were once media gatekeepers have been replaced by opinionated uncles and old high-school classmates who spend all their time online. Russian trolls harnessed the power of these changes in news consumption before most people realized what was happening.

“The truth,” Ward says, “is no match for emotional untruths.”

News organizations have never been particularly good at either working together or telling the public what it is that they do. The first collective effort by journalists to fight back against Trump’s attacks came last week, when a Boston Globe editor organized newspapers across the country to editorialize against them. That collection promptly was assessed by some as playing into Trump’s hands by suggesting collusion on the part of “mainstream media.”

In an ideal world, Ward says, people would have an opportunity to learn media literacy. And he’d have fewer uneasy cocktail party encounters after he meets someone new and announces that he’s an expert in journalism ethics.

“After they laugh, they talk about some person spouting off on Fox or something,” he says.

He has to explain: That may be some people’s idea of journalism, but it’s not news reporting.

 

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

 In any way, are suggesting the off the scale far Left NYT is not trying to influence the political landscape in the US?

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Never as much as the Russians and their efforts to influence the right  😉

Also, don't forget, whatever the 'left' media does, it is done openly and can be scrutinized, can the 'right' say the same?

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On 8/22/2018 at 10:40 AM, deicer said:

Never as much as the Russians and their efforts to influence the right  😉

Also, don't forget, whatever the 'left' media does, it is done openly and can be scrutinized, can the 'right' say the same?

The NYT has a well-known left bias and the video says that the trolls targeted both the left and the right.  Did you even watch the video you linked?  And what are you talking about; the left media acts openly and can be scrutinized but the right doesn't?  That doesn't even make sense.

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19 minutes ago, seeker said:

“ The NYT has a well-known left bias “..........” That doesn't even make sense. “

When initially training as a 2nd officer, when something failed, my instructor always emphasized  “ Consider the SOURCE” first ....before you start solving the problem.

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So there is proof of honesty in reporting, so the leaks come from inside the S.S. Whitehouse. 

In this day and age of 'fake news' legitimate news outlets have a harder job of trying to maintain reporting the truth amongst the cries of 'fake news'.

This is interesting in two ways, first of all, the reporter is verifying that he is doing a legitimate job, and secondly, who is leaking in the Whitehouse?  No loyalty even from the insiders.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/09/01/donald-trump-is-wrong-about-source-behind-bombshell-leak-star-reporter.html

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3 minutes ago, Jaydee said:

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As much as you are prejudiced, and post more than a Russian bot, you fail to acknowledge that he has put together a solid team that is doing well for the country.  Maybe it isn't your ideal situation, but the economy is good, and our politicians aren't putting up with the crap from the south of the border.  Go Team Canada! p.s. if you don't like it, you can always move to Florida 😂

https://www.bdc.ca/en/blog/pages/2018-economic-outlook-global-growth-brings-good-news-canadian-entrepreneurs.aspx

 

http://www.oecd.org/eco/outlook/canada-economic-forecast-summary.htm

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9 hours ago, deicer said:

As much as you are prejudiced, and post more than a Russian bot, you fail to acknowledge that he has put together a solid team that is doing well for the country.  Maybe it isn't your ideal situation, but the economy is good, and our politicians aren't putting up with the crap from the south of the border.  Go Team Canada! p.s. if you don't like it, you can always move to Florida 😂

 

LOL...talk about two faced...I rally against the worst PM in Canadian history who’s destroying this country one day at a time  and I’m ridiculed...you do it against Trump ( backed up by the totally hate biased NYT & CNN  🤣 ) who does nothing but try and make HIS country better for Americans and you are upset.

You are the true definition of everything that’s totally screwed up with society.

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No sir.

The difference between us is that your are railing against 'your' vision of Canada and how you feel it's being eroded.  Canada was founded by immigrants, and immigration is the way it will grow.  So unless you can prove which First Nation you are from, you are railing against what brought you or your forefathers here.

The numbers, much to your chagrin, are against you.  Much like your much adored Cheetoh Jesus, you wish to return to a past that can no longer be.

It is better to learn, adapt, and move forward to a successful future.

As for the media, they struggle to present the truth against an army of trolls who call anything that is against their bias 'hate'.  

So society isn't screwed up, it is adapting and changing like it always has.

You Sir, are screwed up.

 

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27 minutes ago, deicer said:

No sir.

The difference between us is that your are railing against 'your' vision of Canada and how you feel it's being eroded.  Canada was founded by immigrants, and immigration is the way it will grow.  So unless you can prove which First Nation you are from, you are railing against what brought you or your forefathers here.

 

Even the Indians came from somewhere else.....Scientists now think that the ancestors of First Nations people may have come to North America from several different parts of Asia and Polynesia, following several different routes. Some may have come on woven reed rafts, or boats, across the Pacific from Asia and various islands.

And then Canada evolved....

“Canada was created by Europeans, all the institutions, legal system, educational curriculum, transformation of wilderness into productive farms, all the cities, the parliamentary traditions, the churches, the entire infrastructure of railways, ports, shipping industries, and highways, was created by hardworking Europeans.”

 

 

And then came the first disaster...Pierre Trudeau...

 

”The implementation of multiculturalism and mass immigration in the 1970s was intended to be, as Prime Minister Trudeau said openly, "an experiment of major proportions", an effort to undermine the historic European character of Canada by transforming the nation into a multiethnic place in which old ethnic nationalisms would be discredited. Trudeau, and every elite member since and now, envisioned Canada as a "prototype" for a new cosmopolitan world order in which ethnic boundaries would no longer matter.”

 

and now now the idiot is here to finish off this once great nation.

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

you fail to acknowledge that he has put together a solid team that is doing well for the country. 

Trudeau's team is doing well for the country?  Are you delusional?  The Libs "promised" during the election to limit the deficit to a mere 10 billion (personally, don't know why any deficit should be acceptable but that's just me apparently).  Instead the deficit will be 18 billion according to their own numbers, 22 billion according to other sources!  How could anyone read this and still think Trudeau's team is doing "well"?  https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/state-of-federal-finances-worse-than-previously-thought

 

 

 

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All politicians run deficits, is your memory that short?

https://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-matter-how-you-add-it-up-harpers-fiscal-record-is-a-catastrophe/

How does this compare to the Harper government’s fiscal record? In 2006-07, the Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8 billion — which they turned into a deficit of $5.8 billion within two years.

Since then, they have been in deficit each and every year. In 2009-10, the deficit reached its peak of 3.5 per cent of GDP. They are desperate now to show a surplus in 2015-16 — one surplus in nine years. Since Harper was elected, the federal debt has increased by over $150 billion, wiping out the reduction in federal debt achieved under Chretien and Martin. Not much to boast about there.

The difference being in who benefits from the deficit.  

From the retraction of the Harper years, Canada's economy is growing.  Yes, there are deficits, but infrastructure and job creation have increased.

So show me a government that hasn't run deficits.

 

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37 minutes ago, Jaydee said:

Even the Indians came from somewhere else.....Scientists now think that the ancestors of First Nations people may have come to North America from several different parts of Asia and Polynesia, following several different routes. Some may have come on woven reed rafts, or boats, across the Pacific from Asia and various islands.

And then Canada evolved....

“Canada was created by Europeans, all the institutions, legal system, educational curriculum, transformation of wilderness into productive farms, all the cities, the parliamentary traditions, the churches, the entire infrastructure of railways, ports, shipping industries, and highways, was created by hardworking Europeans.”

 

 

And then came the first disaster...Pierre Trudeau...

 

”The implementation of multiculturalism and mass immigration in the 1970s was intended to be, as Prime Minister Trudeau said openly, "an experiment of major proportions", an effort to undermine the historic European character of Canada by transforming the nation into a multiethnic place in which old ethnic nationalisms would be discredited. Trudeau, and every elite member since and now, envisioned Canada as a "prototype" for a new cosmopolitan world order in which ethnic boundaries would no longer matter.”

 

and now now the idiot is here to finish off this once great nation.

Another undocumented quote.  Which far right blog did this come from?

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The financial crisis of 2007–2008, also known as the global financial crisis and the 2008 financial crisis, is considered by many economists to have been the worst financial crisissince the Great Depression of the 1930s.[1][2][3][4]

It began in 2007 with a crisis in the subprime mortgage market in the United States, and developed into a full-blown international banking crisis with the collapse of the investment bank Lehman Brothers on September 15, 2008.[5] Excessive risk-taking by banks such as Lehman Brothers helped to magnify the financial impact globally.[6] Massive bail-outs of financial institutions and other palliative monetary and fiscal policies were employed to prevent a possible collapse of the world financial system. The crisis was nonetheless followed by a global economic downturn, the Great Recession. The European debt crisis, a crisis in the banking system of the European countries using the euro, followed later.

Minor detail....a commonly overlooked factor affecting the world economy, Canada included. Harpers critics love to rail on about his deficits, but during that time the opposition (Libs and NDP) were screaming for him to spend more.

btw...just read the link that deicer posted by the 2 Liberal economists, and lo and behold, no mention of the global economic crisis of 2008, or taking billions stolen  from the EI fund to balance their books.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/government-broke-law-on-ei-financing-in-3-years-top-court-1.750084

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Some may wish to consider that many of the immigrants of the past are not the immigrants of the present, They now come with extra baggage and often long standing and legitimate grievances (and grudges) that go back generations. Importing people from conflict areas with regional, tribal and ethnic differences can prove problematic if it’s left to fester.

If you were an expat in the UAE would you stop celebrating Christmas? If the answer is no, you have no business expecting others to “leave it all behind”. A couple of examples might be in order:

Islam is fundamentally incompatible with a secular democracy and you either get this or you don’t. It can be managed but we are strong on immigration and weak on integration. Anyone suggesting that integration needs to walk hand in hand with immigration is branded a racist. In other words, if you don’t get this it’s guaranteed to become an issue in one form or another. Look to Europe as an example of how to do it wrong.

Here’s another, Somali women are held in low esteem in their country, below that of their own sons. I think I'm correct in assuming that many come to Canada as single mothers. They then find themselves with little control over their teenage sons;  you can likely guess how much help and support they get from the government…. so, fatherlessness is a bigger problem with greater effects in some cultures than it is in others.

There are a host of other “issues” that most Canadians who scream RACIST are openly, shamelessly and irrevocably ignorant of. Thinking you can solve complex social problems with a fishing ban (or some such foolishness) will prove disappointing. You have two choices here, have a deeper look at cause and effect (and stop screaming racist) or wait and see how it works out for you. But be warned; think of reality as a beautiful shapely blonde with a 5th degree black belt. If your thoughts (and actions) stray too far from her's, expect a lesson in pain compliance. Toronto is getting a little taste of this pain right now. If you think it's competitive IPSC shooters from PEI running wild in the streets with handguns then I predict more pain in your future. Sensible people know that banning milk will not ease racial tensions in the US, despite the fact that scholarly folks have deemed milk to be a racist product. Everyone has experience with milk and knows better. The triumph of opinion (complete with self serving and incomplete factoids), over actual experience is frightening, pervasive, and fast becoming an "action plan" for going nowhere.  

As if on cue... must be those IPSC competitors from the  Maritimes again right? 

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/man-killed-in-shooting-at-coronation-park-4-suspects-being-sought

Now, how is it that this young man got to where he is? What is is history? Where did he come from? Any ethnic contributing factors we need to know about? We will never know because even asking the question is racist. The potential lesson will be lost, and we will collectively console ourselves with the notion that T-shirt slogans will save the day. Good Lord, can you imagine an aircraft accident investigation (human factors section) being so (so, so, so) poorly handled.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/man-wanted-in-yorkdale-mall-shooting-arrested-near-trenton

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7 hours ago, deicer said:

How does this compare to the Harper government’s fiscal record? In 2006-07, the Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8 billion — which they turned into a deficit of $5.8 billion within two years.

 

Hmmm...did anything special happen in 2008?  Please at least try to make an honest argument.

Trudeau's cumulative deficit over the next five years is forecasted by the government to be $79 billion dollars, outside observers say $86 billion.  To be fair, the Conservatives also had huge deficits during their term in office - during the worst financial meltdown in history.  In any case that's not my point, as you say, all governments run deficits.  I'm simply calling you out on your statement  that the Liberals are doing "well".  Hardly.

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While no one like the term deficit, especially when its on your books, there is a time when deficits are needed to stimulate growth and prosperity.  The only reason our economy is strong right now is because of those deficits.  Is all the money being spent in the right place.  I don't know.  Everyone has their own agenda.

What I do know is that money budgeted for all of these "causes" that show up in memes meant to discredit the current government is not fully utilized.  So when someone cries "why spend money there when this group needs it more" , its because "this Group" is not fully utilizing its current budget so why give them more.

Money is not the issue in these cases, its actually doing something that is needed.

 

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"Money is not the issue in these cases, its actually doing something that is needed."

The problems arise when we try to determine & agree on what's 'needed'.

 

 

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Seeking a weekend break from his campaign rallies; Donald Trump jetted to his yacht, which was docked off the coast of Italy.  He invited Pope Francis and the press corps on board for a Saturday afternoon cruise.  It was a rather windy day. The Pope's little hat, his zucchetto, was blown from his head and into the water.A crewman began lowering a boat to retrieve the zucchetto.  Trump told the crewman not to bother.  Trump climbed down the yacht's ladder; walked across the waves, picked up the zucchetto; walked back to the yacht and handed it to the Pope.  The Pope and the press corps were amazed! Donald Trump could actually walk on water!  Speculation immediately began as to how ABC, CNN, NBC, ABC, The Washington Post and New York Times would report this miraculous event to the rest of the world.  The next morning the New York Times headline read . . .

 

DONALD TRUMP CAN'T SWIM!!!

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