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Ontario to legalize tailgating at sporting events!


“ This is the just government treating adults like adults.”


Outside sporting venues in Ontario, you will no longer have to worry about being tossed in the clink for having a drink.

The Ontario government is about to make it legal for teams to allow, U.S.-style tailgating outside stadiums and arenas.

Fans will be able to bring their own booze to games and sit beside their parked vehicle and drink and BBQ their own food — just like they do at professional and college games in the U.S.

“This isn’t all of a sudden going to be the wild west,” an Ontario government source told The Toronto Sun.

“You can do your BYOB tailgating, but obviously all the laws still apply. (The police) will still be checking for drinking and driving, they’re still going to be doing all the social responsible things. Adults know they can’t drink and drive. Adults know they shouldn’t consume too much. Some people could get carried away, but that’s going to happen whether you have tailgating or not.

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Tailgating has been an Ontario recreational pursuit for years. Just drive a motorcycle across the province and prepare to be amazed. None of the "give me a carbon tax and save the planet" voters drive at 90K either.


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This is from a grade 12 student who has already published a book.  Highlights are mine for emphasis...

Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss...


Last week, the Ontario government released its first budget, with the tagline “Protecting What Matters Most.” I recently turned 18 and, as a new voter, I thought it would be important to study this budget and understand how it works. However, it brought me to a lot of unanswered questions and logical fallacies.

Premier Doug Ford promised throughout his campaign that cutting Ontario’s $15-billion deficit was a key priority. Yet this new budget spends a record $163 billion, overtaking the record from the previous Liberal budget by $5 billion. In addition, there are tax cuts of different sorts, one notable example being the faster write-offs on capital investments for business, which could mean $3.8 billion in corporate tax relief over several years.

Taxes are a primary way through which a government raises money. Somehow the government seems to expect that increasing spending to record amounts and reducing the amount of money coming into the system will fix the deficit. I am no economist but there is something wrong with that picture.

Also, the budget was described as “Protecting what matters most.” What “matters most” was described by President of the Treasury Board Secretariat Peter Bethlenfalvy as education, health care and social services. At first glance, it looks like the budget does this, with year-over-year increases in the amounts dedicated to these sectors. However, a deeper dive reveals that these are only cuts in disguise.

The rate of inflation, a sustained increase in the general price level of goods and services over a period of time, in Canada is about 1.9 per cent. However, the increase in spending annually in the Ontario budget on health and education is less than the rate of inflation, at approximately 1.6 per cent. This isn’t even accounting for population growth. Despite the surface appearance that the budget is supporting key services such as health and education, it is actually making cuts.

Despite there being a $1-billion increase in the amount of money allocated to education, the amount is actually $6 billion short of what it takes to keep up with inflation and population growth. There will be nearly $700 million in cuts towards post-secondary education alone.

Think of it in terms of a simple input-output system. There is already a $15-billion deficit within the system. To fix the deficit, one must logically increase revenue, and make sure that this increase outpaces the rate of inflation. However, this budget does the opposite. When this continues, the deficit will increase, propagating a vicious circle.

When the next government is elected, it will promise us a way out of this vicious cycle. However, what is actually required for that – namely higher taxes to increase the input of money into the system – is not attractive to voters. Few politicians have ever won elections promising increased taxes.

We elected a government that made all the right promises to get votes, and now we realize that it is “too good to be true.” There is no logical way to execute on these promises. Next time, when we elect a government, we should be proactive in dissecting its claims and ensuring that logic prevails, rather than accepting surface-level, fundamentally illogical promises purely intended to get votes.

Anand Satheesh is a Grade 12 student at Longfields-Davidson Heights High School in Ottawa. Anand published his first book Emerson For The Digital Generation: Secrets of Unparalleled Success and Happiness From the Timeless wisdom of Ralph Waldo Emerson in June 2016. Email:

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Expectations that Ford can correct 15 years of Liberal destruction overnight are downright idiotic, even delusional. Typical negative Liberal BS talking points. This  student should study history instead of English.

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Speaking of history, name me an Ontario government from recent history that hasn't raised the debt.

Also, name me the Ontario governments that spent it on improving quality of life and not on corporate welfare.

They all spend, it's who they spend it on that is most important.


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Dug Fraud once again to cost the taxpayers of Ontario hundreds of MILLIONS!

Doug Ford's beer promise could create hundreds of millions of dollars in penalties

Ontario taxpayers face footing the bill for hundred of millions of dollars in penalties if Premier Doug Ford forges ahead with his plan to allow convenience stores to sell beer. 

In its budget tabled last week, the Ford government reaffirmed its pledge laid out in its throne speech and promised by Ford during the election campaign to throw open the beer retail market to corner stores and big box stores. 

Trouble is, there's a big catch stopping this promise from becoming a reality.

A contract between the province, The Beer Store and three big brewers, in place until the end of 2025, limits the number and type of retail outlets that can sell beer in Ontario. Allowing the province's 11,000 convenience stores to sell beer would breach the contract. Any breach of the contract's key terms is subject to penalties.

Beer industry sources tell CBC News the penalties would be significantly more than $100 million, likely running into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's all laid out in the contract, a publicly available document called the Master Framework Agreement, signed in 2015 under the then-Liberal government. A close look reveals ironclad provisions that stop the government from simply legislating its way out of the deal without compensating The Beer Store and the breweries.  

The agreement is "a legal, valid and binding obligation enforceable against the province." 

The contract gives The Beer Store and the brewers the right to "remedies" including a "monetary award," even if the deal is breached because of changes to provincial legislation. 

That compensation must be awarded regardless of "the status of the province as the Crown" (in other words, the government can't exempt itself from liability).  

How much compensation? The document says an arbitrator must calculate the monetary award "on the basis of the normal principles of damages for breach of contract." 

That means the big brewers would have to be compensated both for the immediate losses they incur when the contract is breached and for ongoing losses over its duration. 

Sales from The Beer Store and brewery outlets are running at $2.3 billion a year, according to the latest figures from the province. More than six years remain in the contract.

Simple math tells you that eating into even a small percentage of the breweries' revenues would add up to big money, and therefore a big penalty to the province.

The brewers could argue the province is responsible for their increased costs to distribute beer to 11,000 additional locations.  The government could face compensating The Beer Store for severance pay to lay off any of its 7,000 staff and fees to terminate leases on any stores it's forced to close. 

The Master Framework Agreement required Labatt and Molson to freeze the price of their most popular products for a year after the deal was signed. The contract also required The Beer Store to spend $100 million by 2018 to "improve the customer experience" in its outlets.

That provision alone is why industry sources say the province would be on the hook for far more than $100 million in compensation if it violates the contract. The company spent the money believing that the retail landscape and its business model would be guaranteed to stay the same until 2025.    

The Beer Store and the brewers are in hush-hush talks with the government about the contract. 

"The discussions are aimed at reaching a mutually agreeable amendment … to improve customer convenience and choice. We cannot disclose the details of these ongoing discussions," said an official with The Beer Store in a statement emailed to CBC News on Wednesday.

"We're going to continue to consult right across the industry over the course of the summer," said Finance Minister Vic Fedeli in an interview Wednesday at Queen's Park. 

"I think the premier was pretty clear during the election and since that we want to put beer and wine in corner stores, big box stores, and more grocery stores because we want to offer people more choice and convenience." 

Asked whether it would be worth paying hundreds of millions in compensation to make that happen, Fedeli replied, "Well, we don't make any presumptions."

How the beer battle plays out will have political implications for Ford, who talks often about respecting the taxpayers and who — even though he doesn't drink — made a "buck a beer" floor price a signature of his campaign.

Beer in convenience stores certainly won't be cheaper than at The Beer Store, where the brewers set the price. 

It's also hard to see how Ford can sell his voters on paying out hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to get beer into corner stores. That is, unless he can paint "Big Beer" as the bad guy.

That's a little harder now that The Beer Store is no longer just owned by the big three of Labatt, Molson and Sleeman. It counts 31 brewers, including craft beer makers, among its shareholders. 

Ultimately, there remains another political tactic Ford could employ. He could try to pin the blame for the costs on Kathleen Wynne and the previous Liberal government for signing the beer agreement in the first place.

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Could could could....but the last line of the article is most telling.....why would Wynne hand over the monopoly to the brewers for another 10 years??  

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The Sky isn’t falling after all.


Busting the myth of Ontario's 'massive education cuts'

— April 24, 2019 
Busting the myth of Ontario's 'massive education cuts'

This month, after the Ford movement released its first budget, reactions from Ontario teacher unions and school board administrators was swift. Some claim the budget calls for “massive education cuts” and that schools will be starved for resources. But a closer look shows that K-12 education spending will simply return to 2016/17 levels.

First, a bit of background. Education spending in Ontario has increased significantly in recent years. A recent study found that during the 10-year period between 2006/07 and 2015/16, per-student inflation-adjusted spending on public schools in Ontario rose from $11,238 to $13,321—an increase of 18.5 per cent.

Over the same period, public school enrolment dropped from just over 2.1 million students in 2006/07 to slightly less than 2.0 million students in 2015/16—a decrease of 5.2 per cent. Ontario has been spending more and more on fewer and fewer students.

After years of declining enrolment in public schools, the last couple of years have seen small increases, with average daily pupil enrolment projected to be 2,012,000 by the 2019/20 school year. On average, over the last four years, Ontario’s enrolment has grown by about 0.06 per cent per year.

The new budget essentially calls for spending on K-12 education to be held constant in nominal terms over the next five years, increasing from $29.8 billion in 2019/20 to $30.2 billion in 2023/24. However, to get a true understanding of education spending, both changes in enrolment and price levels (inflation) must be taken into account. If the slow rate of average growth in enrolment over the last four years and current inflation remain relatively constant, real (inflation-adjusted) per-student spending will decline from a high $15,597 in 2019/20 to $14,600 in 2023/24—a difference of $997 or 6.4 per cent.

At first glance, this appears to be a significant cut in spending, but it’s important to look at this level of spending in context.

In 2016/17 Ontario spent $14,574 per-student in current 2019 dollars. This budget projects spending will reach $15,597 per student (inflation-adjusted) in 2019/20. Holding K-12 public education spending basically at current levels, coupled with modest increases in student enrolment and inflation, means that by 2023-24 per-student inflation-adjusted spending will fall back to $14,600.

Rather than a drastic cut to education spending, this is simply a return to what was spent only two years ago in 2016/17. What’s more, the government is taking four years to implement these reductions. If Ontario public schools weren’t “starved” for resources in 2016/17, they won’t be starved for resources in 2023/24.

It’s not surprising that any reduction in education spending—or even merely holding nominal spending steady—spurs swift and passionate criticism. However, when considered in a larger historical context, education spending in Ontario is simply returning to per-student inflation-adjusted spending levels from only a few years ago.

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Truth loses out in war over Ford government spending.

The first casualty of war is the truth — at least that is how the old saying goes.

It appears that the truth is a casualty in the war over the Ford government’s attempts to bring about budget sanity, reform health care or even put booze in corner stores.

There was a false story on Wednesday claiming that the Ford PCs were going to end OHIP coverage for all Ontarians travelling outside of Canada.

As Mark Twain is credited with saying, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can put on its pants.

The reality is they are looking to cancel one specific program — the Out-of-Country Travellers Program — which serves few people, is for specific cases and costs a ton to administer.

Most of us won’t see a change to our trips to Florida or elsewhere, not that you would know it from some of the TV and radio news broadcasts that likely scared every snowbird that heard them.

Then there is the back and forth between provincial government and municipalities — really the City of Toronto — over public health funding.

The province says they want to adjust their funding for public health.

Currently the province pays 75% of the cost on some programs and 100% of others.

Under the revised plan, the province would reduce their funding and municipalities would be asked to pick up the slack.

In rural and Northern Ontario the split would be 70% provincial and 30% municipal, in places like Ottawa, London or Kingston the split would be 60%-40% and in Toronto it would be a 50%-50% split.

Toronto city councillor Joe Cressy claims this will cost Toronto Public Health $1 billion over 10 years and everything from school breakfast programs to vaccinations could get cut.

Not so fast says the province — while public health funding is being cut, vaccinations will not be and neither will school breakfast programs which are funded by a different department.

“I have been and remain a supporter of school breakfast programs,” Minister for Children and Social Services Lisa MacLeod tweeted.

MacLeod said she will continue to fund such programs and doesn’t know why Cressy would say they were being cut.

That tweet went out a full day before Cressy’s news conference.

As for what this change in the funding model will mean, the city says it will cost them $64 million this year growing to $102 million per year in three years.

The province says the city will see a cut of $33 million this year and $40 million next year.

“It gets nowhere near it,” a senior provincial official said of the $100 million per year number.

So who are we to believe?

Neither side will do what my math teachers used to implore and show their work — they just want us to believe their numbers.

And with Cressy showing up with people on crutches and those who benefitted from vaccines or breakfast programs — which will not be cut — I’m inclined to believe the province.


This is nothing but pure politics and a battle over the direction of the province and how we tackle our $15 billion deficit.

If people like Cressy had their way, we would never tackle it — it would only grow.

Finally, you’ve got the ongoing Beer Store story and the latest fake figure from the Toronto “Red” Star which claims putting beer and wine in corner stores will cost taxpayers $1 billion.

It’s a fake number.

But it is put out there to try and make you think that this government will cut $1 billion from health and spend it on beer.

That would be a dumb move regardless of who was in power but believe me — you won’t be seeing the Ford government give the foreign owned Beer Store $1 billion from taxpayers at the expense of health spending.

It simply will not happen, no matter what the Red Star says.

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While the numbers may be exaggerated with regards to the Beer issue.  There is a contract with the Beer Store That was amended to allow the sale of beer in the Grocery stores.  The same was done with the LCBO but since that is government owned it was an easier task.   Allowing Beer to be sold in corner stores would violate that contract and penalties would be payable for breech of contract equivalent to the lost sales from the Beer Store.

While I would not mind being able to grab a 6 pack from the local Macs Milk, I am not willing to pay the penalty to have it now.  I believe the contract expires in 2022 at which point it should be either cancelled or renegotiated to allow for the sale in corner stores.  At that  point there would be no cost to the taxpayer.

As for the spending of the Ford government to get the budget "under Control".  How much have we payed in penalties for contract cancellation?  It makes the liberals look good by comparison.  Several contract were cancelled near their fruition which cost millions in penalties.  So is money for nothing well spent?  I would rather spend money and get something that may not be perfect than to spend the same money and have nothing.  These contracts were cancelled for no other reason than that they were Liberal created.

All of these governments are unproductive and wasteful.  And so it will go on as long as we allow it.


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I think that for the penalties paid, while in the millions, the costs/efficiencies will be re-couped over the longer term. Another way of looking at it...if the deficit was not addressed and you have a small rise in interests many more millions would be flushed down the toilet with increased payments on the deficit. If you want to be worried about paying money for nothing, you should be worried about wasting money paying for interest on the Liberal created deficit. Interest payments have increased almost $1 billion since 2015 and is the 4th largest area of government spending!!!!


Ontario government debt. ... As of March 31, 2018, the Ontario government's total debt is projected to be CDN$348.79 billion. The Debt-to-GDP ratio for 2017-2018 is 37.1% and interest on the debt is CDN$11.97 billion, representing 8.0% of Ontario'srevenue and its fourth-largest spending area.

Ontario government debt - Wikipedia


The unions and leftist Toronto city councillors still don’t get it.....Ontario is broke!


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The Deficit will continue to increase no matter what government is in power.  Maybe an insignificant decrease but it will be short lived.  Governments spend, are poor at creative ways to generate income so they even start borrowing from themselves.

OHIP - EVERYONE pays this.  It should be self sustaining however the government chooses to use the money elsewhere.  Not cool.

Road Maintenance - Every dollar you put in the tank of your car pays for this or at least it is supposed to but nope, general revenue.

This list could get long as to where the allocated funds actually end up.  The systems was suppose to segregate the funds to specific accounts but that no longer happens.

Federally lok at the CPP.  NONE of that money belongs to the government.  It belongs 100% to US that pay into it. Yet the government sees fit to borrow that money and then tell us it is an entitlement.  Again thats not how its supposed to work.  

All governments are responsible for this mess not just the left.  Harris committed political suicide by doing exactly what Ford is doing.



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What got us 15 years of Liberals is the public’s fantasy that governments have an unlimited ability to borrow money...even federal lib Paul Martin got the message:

“When the federal government faced a growing debt problem in the late 1980s, then Opposition finance critic Paul Martin was initially skeptical about cutting spending. In 1989, he labelled mild government efforts to cut spending as “ideological.” Six years later, as finance minister, Martin recognized that cascading debt and compounding interest on such debt have an unrelenting logic all their own: “The debt and deficit are not inventions of ideology,” said Martin in 1995. “They are facts of arithmetic. The quicksand of compound interest is real."

So, again, when will people realize Ontario is broke and it won’t end well when the economy goes bust.

”The auditor general warns of three consequences of Ontario’s existing massive indebtedness: debt interest siphons away tax dollars from social programs (currently nine cents of every dollar collected by the government goes to paying interest on debt). More debt means a higher risk from interest rates when they rise. And the potential for a credit rating downgrade would further drive up borrowing costs.

The danger of Ontario’s indebtedness is real. Consider that in 2013/14 interest on the provincial debt was $10.6 billion. According to the province’s fall fiscal update, that was just over half of all provincial sales tax revenue paid by Ontarians last year ($20.5 billion). So Ontarians should know that when you pay your provincial sales tax at the till, half of it flutters away just to pay your provincial government’s debt interest.


And the credit downgrade has started already......”

Bond rating agency Moody's has downgraded the credit ratings of seven public organizations in Ontario days after lowering the province's credit rating.

Moody's says the downgrade affects three hospitals, one public university and three other government bodies, but says it has also changed their outlooks to stable from negative.


So good luck to the next government that wants to spend, spend , spend.........but we will end up paying the piper and ending up with less services.

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I do not disagree with cuts but the cuts have to be in the correct place for the correct reason.  Education and healthcare are not the places you start.  Government itself is the place to start.  Every MP and elected official should make no more than the median salary of his constituents.  That alone would cut millions in government spending.  Expense spending should be cut severely.  Travel should be reduced.  and the list goes on.  

BTW those job number are BS. 

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The Classy Left. I Love when they show their true colours :Clap-Hands:

# F*** Ford. !!   Chop his head off !

The picture was taken with Horwath, NDP MPP Jamie West and a protester at the rally challenging Ford’s changes to health care.


and more......>>>>>





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Ford government looks at raising speed limits across some highways

Ford government looks at raising speed limits across some highways

Ontario’s highways may soon become high-speed. 

Jeff Yurek the Ford government’s transportation minister announced earlier today that the province is looking at launching public consultations alongside some project sites to review speed limits across highways.

“The 400-series highways were built for, I believe, a speed limit of 120 km/h safely,” said Minister Jeff Yurek at a press conference at the Toronto Region Board of Trade on Wednesday morning.

The test project to raise speed limits will be tabled at Queen’s Park within the next week.


“If you look back on the history of why speed limits were set where they were back in the 70s, there was an energy crisis and in order to conserve fuel they lowered the speed limits on our highway system and it stayed that way ever since,” Yurek explained to reporters. “I’ve heard lots of stakeholders mention that maybe it’s time to take a review of how our speed limits are in the province and we’ll have more to say next week on this issue.”

While the Ford government has seemed open to increasing highway speeds an Ontario Provincial Police sergeant, warned against the move, according to a CBC report. 

Sgt. Kerry Schmidt, a spokesperson for the OPP’s highway safety division, said the OPP enforces provincial highway speed limits set by Ontario’s ministry of transportation.

Schmidt added that it is a well-known fact that high speed driving can lead to death and serious injuries. 

“The OPP, our role, is to enforce the rules of the road. And those rules are established by the Ministry of Transportation. If the MTO determines that they want to change the maximum speed limits, that is their mandate to do so. We will enforce the laws as they are legislated,” said Sgt. Schmidt.

However, Sgt. Schmidt’s claims might be unfounded since Germany’s highway, the Autobahn which has no speed limits has not reported a statistically higher rate of deaths or injuries.

The province is also expected to increase fine for slow-moving drivers in the left lane of the highway. 

“Because when people drive dangerously slow, the safety of others is put at risk,” said Yurek.

The province has already announced they are planning to allow motorcycles to use high occupancy lanes to increase safety on highways.

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Raise the limit on the 401 all you want.  the average speed will still be 30

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I get a kick out of the leftist anti fa protesters that believe in their cause so much that they feel compelled to cover their faces. Cowards.

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They want you to drink more, smoke more pot, and now to drive faster, all so that you spend more on the taxes they need to offset the tax cuts they gave their rich buddies.

So it's hypocritical to complain about the carbon tax and say you want to drive faster.....

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