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That’s apparently only an issue with certain Chinese carriers, Blues. Xiamen Air being one of them. Several others are actively recruiting and training Canadians as I type.

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40 minutes ago, vrefplus5 said:

That’s apparently only an issue with certain Chinese carriers, Blues. Xiamen Air being one of them. Several others are actively recruiting and training Canadians as I type.

I personally have no interest but I know some who are currently considering working in China. Apparently Hainan shut it down for Canadians due to someone fabricating their Great White North CV. 

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17 minutes ago, Rich Pulman said:

I heard the “made in China” label gave it away.:lol:

Seriously though, Hainan (and their multiple, multiple aliases) seem to be having other issues. Hiring pilots may not be the most important thing on their agenda at the moment.

https://www.aerotime.aero/en/aviation-finance/finance/20718-hna-airlines-are-missing-payments-as-financial-issues-deepen?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=el_al_is_to_close_its_low_budget_brand_up_aerotime&utm_term=2018-01-15

 After reading those articles it may a good thing they are avoiding Canadians. 

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From the ALPA newsletter: of 1/17/18

'Introduction to unions 101' for the MBA's.

 

WESTJET MANAGEMENT FILES UNFAIR LABOUR PRACTICE COMPLAINT AGAINST ALPA

Last April, on the exact day that ALPA filed cards with the Canada Industrial Relations Board to represent the WestJet pilots, the airline announced that it was creating Swoop, an ultra-low-cost carrier.

Late Friday afternoon, WestJet management filed an Unfair Labour Practice complaint against ALPA, claiming that the WestJet MEC has engaged in bad-faith bargaining by asking the International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations to advise member associations about the labor situation and potential for WestJet management to outsource their flying to Swoop.

This situation could have dire ramifications on pilots’ careers. The WestJet MEC encourages all ALPA members who run into any of our WestJet brothers and sisters to please let them know that you support them and appreciate their fighting to uphold our profession.

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11 hours ago, deicer said:

Welcome to the Big Leagues...

How many times have you said that now?

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12 hours ago, deicer said:

Welcome to the Big Leagues...

That comment jumped-the-shark about 10 years ago.

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I don't know whether this will work but.....will WJ make a deal with Hershey's? I don't know what the "ban jugs of iced tea" above means.

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2 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

That's not iced tea...That's Kool-aid...

Remember Jones Town???

Don't drink the Kool-Aid it's all Bu** Sh*t.

But who is peddling the kool-aid.....ALPA or WJ?

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Imagine, we hear there's a world wide pilot shortage and yet someone believes they can start an airline and pay pilots even less???

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39 minutes ago, Rich Pulman said:

Well, let’s see what the turn-around time is for pilots at Swoop. I’m guessing less than two years before many head for “greener” pastures. 

That might be exactly what WestJet's management wants.

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MEDIA ADVISORY - Swoop to make major announcement in Abbotsford


NEWS PROVIDED BY

Swoop

08:00 ET


CALGARY, Jan. 31, 2018 /CNW/ - Swoop is Canada's first true ultra-low-cost carrier and on Thursday, February 1, the airline will unveil a first look at Swoop routes and prices. Media are invited to come and witness the new airline, coming in hot!

When: Thursday, February 1

 

Where: Abbotsford International Airport
30440 Liberator Ave., Abbotsford, BC

Who:

  • Gregg Saretsky, President and CEO WestJet Group
  • Henry Braun, Mayor and Abbotsford Airport Authority Chair

MEDIA ADVISORY - Swoop to make major announcement in Hamilton


News provided by

Swoop

06:00 ET

 


CALGARY, Jan. 31, 2018 /CNW/ - Swoop is Canada's first true ultra-low-cost carrier and on Thursday, February 1, the airline will unveil a first look at Swoop routes and prices. Media are invited to come and witness the new airline, coming in hot!

When: Thursday, February 1

 

Where: John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport
9300 Airport Road, Mount Hope

  • Please park in executive parking lot

Who:

  • Bob Cummings, WestJet Executive Vice-President, Strategy and Executive in charge of Swoop launch
  • Cathie Puckering, Acting President and CEO, Hamilton International Airport

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I imagine this exemption will allow them to put some meat in the sandwich's being served on Feb 1 in YHM and YXX

Order No. 2018-A-20

January 31, 2018
 

APPLICATION by Swoop Inc. (applicant) for an exemption from the application of section 59 of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, as amended (CTA).

 
Case number: 
18-00216
18-00217
18-00218
 

BACKGROUND

The applicant has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an exemption to permit it to sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale a domestic service, large aircraft; a non-scheduled international service, large aircraft, between Canada and any other country; and a scheduled international service, large aircraft, between Canada and the United States of America, in the absence of a licence.

Section 59 of the CTA states that no person shall sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale in Canada an air service unless, if required under Part II of the CTA, a person holds a licence issued under that Part in respect of that service and that licence is not suspended.

The applicant has applied for a domestic licence, large aircraft; a non-scheduled international licence, large aircraft, to operate a service between Canada and any other country; and a scheduled international licence, large aircraft, to operate a service between Canada and the United States of America in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007. However, as the application is not yet complete, the applicant has requested an exemption from the application of section 59 of the CTA.

The applicant indicates that it is in the process of obtaining a Canadian aviation document (CAD) from Transport Canada, which is required to complete the licence application. The applicant also indicates that it intends to commence commercial activities in Canada in June 2018.

The applicant states that the exemption from the application of section 59 will allow it to start commercializing the new services.

 

ANALYSIS

The Agency deals with applications for exemptions from the application of section 59 of the CTA on a case by case basis. The Agency recognizes that section 59 is a consumer protection measure. It is intended to prevent situations in which consumers in Canada pay for a service to an entity that does not hold an Agency licence and are left out of pocket or experience any manner of inconvenience or hardship that may result if that entity does not commence operations on schedule.

Accordingly, the Agency, prior to granting an exemption from the application of section 59 of the CTA, must be satisfied that the applicant is taking all the necessary steps to meet all licence issuance requirements and that the applicant has demonstrated a high probability of obtaining the required licence prior to the proposed start of operations.

A Canadian applicant for a domestic licence, large aircraft; a non-scheduled international licence, large aircraft; and a scheduled international licence, large aircraft, must establish that it:

  1. is Canadian;
  2. holds a CAD;
  3. has the prescribed liability insurance coverage in respect of the services to be provided under the licence; and,
  4. meets the prescribed financial requirements.

The Agency is satisfied that the applicant is Canadian.

The Agency is also satisfied that the applicant has the prescribed liability insurance coverage.

The Agency notes that the applicant expects that it will be issued a CAD in time for the proposed start-up date.

The Agency is satisfied that the applicant met the prescribed financial requirements.

Accordingly, the Agency is satisfied that there is a high probability that the licence will issue prior to the intended start-up date of June 2018.

In the present circumstances, considering the intent of section 59 of the CTA and the fact that the applicant is taking all the necessary steps to meet all licensing issuance requirements, the Agency finds that compliance by the applicant with section 59 of the CTA is unnecessary.

Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 80(1)(c) of the CTA, exempts the applicant from the application of section 59 of the CTA, effective from the date of this Order, permitting it to sell, cause to be sold or publicly offer for sale in Canada, a domestic service, large aircraft; a non scheduled international service, large aircraft, between Canada and any other country; and a scheduled international service, large aircraft, between Canada and the United States of America, without holding the required licence, subject to the following conditions:

  1. All advertising in any media, whether written, electronic or telecommunications, shall include a statement that the air services are subject to government approval, unless and until the section 59 exemption expires following the issuance of a licence. All prospective clients shall be made aware, before the signature of any charter contract, that the air services are subject to government approval;
  2. The applicant shall file its tariffs with the Agency, as well as publish and apply them, before marketing its services;
  3. This exemption does not relieve the applicant from the requirement to hold a licence in respect of the services to be provided and, accordingly, no flights shall be operated until the appropriate licence authority has been granted; and,
  4. Should the licence not be issued or not issue by the time an air service sold to a client is to be used, the applicant shall arrange to provide alternative air transportation by an appropriately licensed air carrier, at no additional cost for its clients. If such arrangements are not possible or acceptable to its clients, the applicant shall arrange to provide a full refund of all monies paid by its clients.

This Order takes effect on January 29, 2018, the date on which it was communicated verbally to the applicant.

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