conehead Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42562253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Years ago we had two Captains battle for the left seat in front of boarding passengers. One was a former hockey player. The other not. The pair earned nic-names Pebbles and Bam-Bam. One was fired. One kept his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Classic film. One of my favorites. It was delayed to DVD by Wayne’s family because they thought his role in the film wasn’t like his other more heroic characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I wouldn't want to speculate how the FO may have responded to a female giving him orders, but for her to have abandoned her primary responsibilities during a crisis in command is ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 There's much more to this story, including a past relationship - and it takes two to tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanishing point Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I missed where it says which pilot held which position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 C’mon J.O., give us the scoop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Here’s another article: http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/she-left-the-cockpit-in-tears-female-pilot-slapped-by-male-colleague-left-controls-midflight/news-story/72e4147140691d7060d51b497cf00d08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 23 hours ago, st27 said: Here’s another article: http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/she-left-the-cockpit-in-tears-female-pilot-slapped-by-male-colleague-left-controls-midflight/news-story/72e4147140691d7060d51b497cf00d08 Need to work on their selection process. Slaps the Captain and then goes looking for her in flight. Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Agree Rich, NOTHING surprises me in India....or the ME with its huge Indian population. Could write a book - a comedy - about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Blues Being as you're obviously a leg man, I have a question for you; would you know how many hydraulic horsepower are required to raise the main gear on a 777? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Today’s Boeing manuals for pilots are so “need to know” based and I think you would need to know the flow rate of the hydraulic fluid in GPM. So it’s a 3000 PSI system and maybe 2 GPM.........how about four healthy Clydesdales? They can pull those Budweiser wagons loaded with beer so 12 landing gear should be a snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted January 8, 2018 Author Share Posted January 8, 2018 What are you two on about??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, conehead said: What are you two on about??? Haha. Not sure but I’m hoping I understood DEFCON’s question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Blues....you sly devil....1gpm @1500 psi = 1 hp. Ipso facto...3000 psi @2 gpm = 4 hp. I love this.....I know and understand nothing but with the aid of the internet and Blues, now know how many hp is required to raise the 747 landing gear. Now then....why did Defcon " need to know"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, UpperDeck said: Blues....you sly devil....1gpm @1500 psi = 1 hp. Ipso facto...3000 psi @2 gpm = 4 hp. I love this.....I know and understand nothing but with the aid of the internet and Blues, now know how many hp is required to raise the 747 landing gear. Now then....why did Defcon " need to know"? Actually...DEFCON was asking about the 777 main landing gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, UpperDeck said: Blues....you sly devil....1gpm @1500 psi = 1 hp. Ipso facto...3000 psi @2 gpm = 4 hp. I love this.....I know and understand nothing but with the aid of the internet and Blues, now know how many hp is required to raise the 747 landing gear. Now then....why did Defcon " need to know"? Don’t know. He still hasn’t graded my paper yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Thanks Blues;. UD's calculations are accurate enough and because we know it's going to take a lot more than 4 hp to do the job, it's pretty clear the 2 gpm value is way too low. To answer UD's question; a related discussion took place amongst a number of old guys that frequent a regular local breakfast establishment. A search of the internet did not provide the answer and so, I thought I'd ask the man that appears to have a special interest in the massive legs of the aircraft he operates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Kip Powick said: Actually...DEFCON was asking about the 777 main landing gear Ok, sir. I mis-typed but whilst on the subject, how many hp to raise the MAIN LANDING GEAR of the 747? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, DEFCON said: Thanks Blues;. UD's calculations are accurate enough and because we know it's going to take a lot more than 4 hp to do the job, it's pretty clear the 2 gpm value is way too low. To answer UD's question; a related discussion took place amongst a number of old guys that frequent a regular local breakfast establishment. A search of the internet did not provide the answer and so, I thought I'd ask the man that appears to have a special interest in the massive legs of the aircraft he operates. Ah!! I see...old guys stuff. I thought it might somehow relate to the force necessarily expended in efforts to modify certain actions or reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The 777 MLG is definitely an amazing piece of engineering. I recall my previous Boeing type manuals contained more technical information in each system chapter for the pilot to review and understand. More recently I’ve noticed revised editions are now much more need to know vs. nice to know. The only reason I can think of is that when your airline purchases a Boeing aircraft they will of course provide you with full document and information support but only in English. So if this doesn’t happen to be your native language it can be a challenge. Keeping POM’s as simple as possible seems to be the current method for this plane maker. When working with the pilots I fly with now it seems system function during training and afterwards is rarely discussed. Almost never because again the Boeing manuals are all in English. In my previous years we would make a point of reviewing systems during line training in cruise to improve each others level of operating knowledge. Also, perhaps passing on something you’ve found to be helpful to the trainee. Some pilots would eat up anything they could learn and others not so much taking in just what they needed. Anyway DEFCON thanks for question. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, UpperDeck said: Ok, sir. I mis-typed but whilst on the subject, how many hp to raise the MAIN LANDING GEAR of the 747? Well I believe each main gear assembly on the 777 weighs in at 6000 lbs (2 x 6000=12000 lbs), and the 747 has 3 sets of gear on each side and I believe that those three sets weigh in at very close to 6500 per side or (2 x 6500 =13000 lbs) I think the answer to HP (above post) required to lift the gear on a 777 is a quite bit low but based on the numbers, the 777 would take less HP to raise the main gear vs the 747803028627 `s of 10 HP More importantly......why does anyone care ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Kept us occupied for a bit. Down here in sunny Florida, it's NOT sunny and rain threatens so I'm sipping tea ( Yes...tea) in the salon watching the clock slowly edge towards cocktail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I'm torn. At this point in my career I have experienced aircraft courses that include the thread pitch on the bolts that hold the lav seat on and courses that were basically limited to; how many wings, how many engines - and done. Having good system knowledge can help in certain circumstances but I have also seen it lead to making decisions based on what a guy thinks he knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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