dagger Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Air freight was such a dog for over a decade, but demand and rates seem to be firming. These are sponsored articles, but they nevertheless have some interesting stats. https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/partners/advaircanadacargo/air-freight-industry-rebounds-as-global-economy-improves/article36384044/?utm_content=bufferd3e23&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/partners/advaircanadacargo/increasing-demand-for-fresh-food-fuels-air-freight-industry/article36383978/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 What percentage of AC cargo is flown on their passenger aircraft vs. Cargojet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Well Cargo jet would be 100% so Air canada would be less than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QFE Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 OK then- what percentage of Air Canada cargo is flown on Cargojet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, boestar said: Well Cargo jet would be 100% so Air canada would be less than that. Very clever. AC is not the only Cargojet customer. So just to be clear, what percentage of AC’s annual cargo is flown on their own aircraft. My airline has its own dedicated cargo fleet but every day most passenger flights carry approved cargo as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I don't know the percentage but I would assume it is fairly high with the reduction of domestic widebody service we have seen over the years. AC Still carries a lot of cargo in the bellies but nothing close to what they used to carry on the 747 Combi and the freighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 The 777's and 787's do very well with full bellies! They carry way more than the 47's of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The 747 Combis carried far more than the belly of a 777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 and never made any money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 Combis were a dog, because you could never match good passenger fares and loads and good freight rates and loads on the same flight. Part of the aircraft was always under performing, and that applies to almost any airline that has ever owned long-haul combis. KLM, if I recall, was the last holdout, but it's indeed done with combis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I never claimed it was cost effective just that the loads and capacity were there and greater. AC once had a great freighter network, one that is mirrored now by the likes of Cargojet. Cargojet seems to be making it work pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted October 18, 2017 Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, boestar said: I never claimed it was cost effective just that the loads and capacity were there and greater. AC once had a great freighter network, one that is mirrored now by the likes of Cargojet. Cargojet seems to be making it work pretty well. Yes, but CargoJet is using smaller planes. As for the combis, they also were an operational challenge because you're loading large amounts of large-sized freight as well as passengers, and sometimes there were delays getting the freight in place because of physical handling issues. So flights left late not because of passenger boarding issues, but because something weirdly odd sized like a huge industrial pump couldn't just slide aboard, but was awkward to manoeuvre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, dagger said: Yes, but CargoJet is using smaller planes. As for the combis, they also were an operational challenge because you're loading large amounts of large-sized freight as well as passengers, and sometimes there were delays getting the freight in place because of physical handling issues. So flights left late not because of passenger boarding issues, but because something weirdly odd sized like a huge industrial pump couldn't just slide aboard, but was awkward to manoeuvre. I am aware of that. I used to load that awkward large cargo in a previous life. Cargojet is using more efficient aircraft. the DC-8 was only marginally larger than a 757. definitely bigger than the 727 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Alaskan is retiring their special built 737-400Combi. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/apnewsbreak-planes-designed-for-alaska-to-take-final-flight/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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