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The technical aspects of the attack are not indicative of a "crazy" mindset. The lack of motive stands out here...  it was engineered (at some effort) to leave the motive missing. So, this aspect of omission was deliberate and well planned.


 I fear Jihadists may be taking notes and opt to copy his methodology. So far, we have only had to contend with the gang that couldn't shoot strait in Canada. If this is crazy, we best hope crazy isn't contagious. Given the choice, I pick crazy over intelligent, deliberate and methodical. The lack of a clearly identifiable motive doesn't mean there wasn't one. As is the case in aviation investigations, usually the simple answer is the wrong one. Or, maybe I'm just crazy.

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Too early to tell if this one is also "Home Grown" 

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Nov 5, 3:12 PM EST

The Latest: Official says more than 20 dead in church attack


SUTHERLAND SPRINGS, Texas (AP) -- The Latest on a shooting at a church in Texas (all times local):

2:15 p.m.

A County Commissioner in Texas says he's been told that more than 20 people were killed and more than 20 were wounded in an attack at a church, though he says those figures haven't been confirmed.

Albert Gamez, a Wilson County commissioner, made the comments to cable news outlets after the attack Sunday at a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, a small community 30 miles southeast of San Antonio.

A sheriff says that a man walked into the church and started firing. Authorities say the attacker was later killed.


1:20 p.m.

A sheriff says a man walked into a Baptist church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, and started shooting, leaving multiple people dead.

The Wilson County News reports that Wilson County Sheriff Joe Tackitt said the shooter has been taken down. It wasn't immediately known how many people were killed and wounded or who carried out the attack.

First responders converged on the church in the small town southeast of San Antonio and helicopters are taking victims to hospitals.

Sutherland Springs is a community of about 400 people 30 miles (48 kilometers) southeast of San Antonio.


1 p.m.

Local news outlets report that several people have been shot at a Baptist Church in South Texas.

Television stations KSAT and KENS report that there are multiple victims and that there is a large police presence at the church in Sutherland Springs, which is 30 miles (48 kilometers) southeast of San Antonio.

KSAT reports that two Airlife helicopters are also at the scene.

A sheriff's department dispatcher says everyone is at the scene and unavailable to comment.

KSAT has video of several fire and police vehicles at the church and a photo of a helicopter that the station says was arriving to take victims to hospitals.

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Turns out it was a "Home Grown Terrorist/murderer" 


The shooter has been identified by officials as Devin Patrick Kelley, reports the New York Times, NBC and others. Officials declined to provide the suspect’s name during a press conference, but they did confirm that he was 26.

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Watched a bit of this online as it developed. The live feed comments on CNN were polarized, cringeworthy and utterly devoid of common sense and humanity… each side hoping this evil creature’s ethnicity would serve their own agenda and narrative. No compromise, no middle ground, no political centre. Foreign enemies will not defeat western civilization, if it fails, it will do so under the weight of its own bloated carcass.

After yesterday afternoon, the count for this year is seven near head-on collisions, narrowly avoided by abrupt maneuvering and/or full ABS emergency breaking. All were aggressive/distracted/self entitled (I own the road) in nature. Society is changing and not for the better.

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Two Police One injured / One killed by gunmen.

Nov 7, 1:07 PM EST

Pennsylvania State Police trooper shot during traffic stop


NAZARETH, Pa. (AP) -- A Pennsylvania State Police corporal was shot several times while exchanging gunfire with a suspect during a traffic stop Tuesday morning, and the suspect was also wounded, authorities said.

The shooting happened on a highway in Plainfield Township, Northampton County, about 65 miles north of Philadelphia. The corporal was outside his vehicle when he traded gunfire with the suspect, police said .

Shot and wounded, the suspect fled in a blue Pontiac sedan and drove himself several miles to Easton Hospital, where he was taken into custody. Police said he was being treated for gunshot wounds.

The corporal was flown to a separate hospital where police said he was being treated for "multiple gunshot wounds." His name and condition weren't immediately released.

Police gathered evidence from suspect's car, which was parked near the emergency room entrance and appeared to have its rear window shot out. It was later put on a flatbed and taken away.

Gov. Tom Wolf said in a statement that he and his wife were "praying for this trooper, the family and every member of the Pennsylvania State Police."

and here in Canada

An Abbotsford family, a police department and a community are in mourning after an officer was killed during a shootout at an Abbotsford strip mall Monday.  

The slain officer, identified Tuesday as Const. John Davidson, a 24-year veteran of the Abbotsford Police Department, was hailed as a hero among heroes by Abbotsford Police Chief Bob Rich.   Nov. 6, 2017. Abbotsford Police Department handout

“The officer who gave his life today is a hero,” said Rich. “He was protecting this community.” 

The shooting started innocuously enough with a call to police at 11:35 a.m. about a possible stolen vehicle spotted in the parking lot in the 3200-block Mount Lehman Road.  

George MacDonald, fleet manager for the MSA Ford dealership in the Abbotsford Auto Mall across the street, said the fatal shooting was connected with a car allegedly stolen off the dealership lot Saturday. A man had come in wanting to test drive a black Ford Mustang, he said. The salesperson gave him the key and installed plates on the vehicle. 

But before the salesperson could get into the car, the man took off with the vehicle.

On Monday, an employee was gassing up another vehicle when she saw what appeared to be the stolen Mustang in the parking lot. It had Alberta licence plates.  

“We brought the key over, and it worked,” said MacDonald. One of his employees had blocked the car in while waiting for police to arrive, but before officers could get there, “the guy came back with a rifle and decided he wanted the car back.” 

MacDonald had gone back to the dealership before the shooting began, but some of his employees stayed behind and witnessed the gunfire.  

“It’s shocking,” he said. “An officer got shot. We got three of our people literally 10 feet away from the guy when he drew the rifle out.” 

MacDonald had gone back to the dealership before the shooting began, but some of his employees stayed behind and witnessed the gunfire.  

“It’s shocking,” he said. “An officer got shot. We got three of our people literally 10 feet away from the guy when he drew the rifle out.”

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And sadly the beat goes on.

Nov 14, 2:08 PM EST

Shootings at multiple sites kill 3, wound kids at school


RED BLUFF, Calif. (AP) -- A series of shootings at multiple locations in rural Northern California left three people dead and several others wounded Tuesday, including students at an elementary school, authorities said.

Law enforcement officers killed the shooter, but it was not clear if authorities counted it among the three deaths.

Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston tells a TV station in the city of Chico that officers are investigating at least five crime scenes in and around the school in Rancho Tehama Reserve, about 130 miles north of Sacramento.

"It was right about 8 a.m. we had multiple shots fired in Rancho Tehama," Johnston said. "That evolved to multiple victims and multiple shots at the school, at the elementary school. I am told at this point the suspected shooter is deceased by law enforcement bullets, that's what I'm told."

Jeanine Quist, an administrative assistant with the Corning Union Elementary School District, said no one was killed at the school with kindergarten through fifth grades but that a "number" of students were shot and wounded.

Johnston said the school had been cleared by 10 a.m. but he did not have any information about the victims there.

Three people were being treated at a hospital in Redding, about 50 miles north of the shootings, Mercy Medical Center spokeswoman Marcy Miracle said. She declined to provide other details about the victims or their injuries.

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Nov 14, 5:06 PM EST

Gunman picking random targets kills 4 in Northern California

Associated Press


RED BLUFF, Calif. (AP) -- A gunman choosing targets at random opened fire in a rural Northern California town Tuesday, killing four people at several sites and wounding others at an elementary school before police shot him dead, authorities said.

The gunfire began around 8 a.m. in the community of Rancho Tehama Reserve, about 130 miles north of Sacramento.

Police offered no immediate word on the assailant's motive, but a sheriff's official said the shooter's neighbors had reported a domestic violence incident.

"It was very clear at the onset that we had an individual that was randomly picking targets," Tehama County Assistant Sheriff Phil Johnston said.

Witnesses reported hearing gunshots and children screaming at an elementary school about five miles down a road from where the shooting is believed to have started.

Several people were wounded at the school, said Jeanine Quist, an administrative assistant with the Corning Union Elementary School District.

Salvador Tello said the gunman fired at a truck in front of him as he was dropping off his three children. Tello said he was about three blocks from the school when bullets made "big holes" in the truck in front of him.

He said he forced his children to duck down and slammed his truck into reverse and headed to the children's grandmother's house.

"I put my kids down and put my truck in reverse and went out," he said. "I don't believe it because I wake up, take my kids, feed them cereal and put them in the truck and says 'Let's go to school like a normal day.'"

On the way, he said, he saw an apparent gunshot victim and police at another scene.

Details were still sketchy hours after the shootings, and authorities did not have a firm count of the wounded due to the number of places the gunman attacked, Johnston said.

Authorities recovered a semi-automatic rifle and two handguns.

The rural subdivision is described on its website as a "quiet private country community" where "the people are friendly and the pace is relaxed." The homeowner association's website says there are 2,016 lots in the community and 1,346 voting members.

Two hospitals said they were treating a total of seven gunshot victims, including at least three children.

At least one student was wounded at the school. Another child was shot while driving with a woman, who also was wounded, Johnston said.

He declined to release the name of the shooter but said he was "aware" of a domestic violence incident that neighbors reported.

Brian Flint told the Record Searchlight newspaper in the city of Redding that his neighbor, whom he knows only as Kevin, was the gunman and that his roommate was among the victims. He said the shooter also stole his truck.

"The crazy thing is that the neighbor has been shooting a lot of bullets lately, hundreds of rounds, large magazines," Flint said. "We made it aware that this guy is crazy and he's been threatening us."


Elias reported from San Francisco. Associated Press writers Janie Har and Olga Rodriguez also contributed to this story.

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Nov 15, 10:57 AM EST

Police: 'Miracle' more weren't shot by rifle-toting man 

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CHEEKTOWAGA, N.Y. (AP) -- It's a "miracle" more people weren't wounded when a man dressed in camouflage, wearing body armor and armed with two semi-automatic rifles sprayed a retail store with dozens of rounds, wounding one man, before being tackled by police, authorities said.

Police in the town of Cheektowaga said the gunfire erupted around 2:45 p.m. Tuesday outside a Dollar General store. The gunman fired repeatedly at the store's entrance from outside while several customers and employees were inside, police Chief David Zack said.

When police arrived, witnesses pointed out the gunman, who attempted to run away before being tackled by the officers a short distance from the store, located in a stand-alone building on a side street in a commercial district. No other shots were fired during his capture, police aid.

A 53-year-old Cheektowaga man suffered a gunshot wound to his shoulder, officials said. Police haven't said if he was a customer or a store employee.

Two AR-15-style rifles were found at the scene, police said. Information on how much ammunition was found hasn't been released.

Police identified the suspect as Travis Green, 29, of Cheektowaga. He was arraigned Wednesday morning in town court on charges that included attempted murder, assault, criminal use of a firearm and resisting arrest. He pleaded not guilty and was ordered held in the Erie County Jail without bail.

The name of his lawyer wasn't immediately available.

Zack said there was initial confusion over the exact location of the Dollar General because there are six of them in Cheektowaga, a sprawling suburb just eat of Buffalo.

"It is a miracle I'm not at this podium reading the names of the dead," Zack said during a news conference at police headquarters a few hours after the shooting. Considering the number of rounds that hit the store, those inside were "clearly were extremely lucky," the police chief said.

Police were still trying to determine a motive for the shooting, which Zack called an "unprovoked attack."

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Home grown but not in the US.

Egypt attack: More than 230 killed in Sinai mosque

The militants targeted a mosque near al-ArishImage copyright EPA Image caption The militants targeted a mosque near al-Arish

Militants have launched a bomb and gun attack on a mosque in Egypt's North Sinai province, killing 235 people, state media say.

The al-Rawda mosque in the town of Bir al-Abed was targeted during Friday prayers.

It is the deadliest attack of its kind since an Islamist insurgency in the peninsula was stepped up in 2013.

Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi vowed to respond with "brute force" after talks with security officials.

No group has yet claimed the attack, but militants affiliated with so-called Islamic State (IS) have been responsible for scores of deadly attacks in the province.

They usually target security forces and Christian churches, and the bloody attack on a mosque associated with Sufi Muslims has shocked Egypt.

What happened?

Witnesses said dozens of gunmen arrived in off-road vehicles and bombed the packed mosque before opening fire on worshippers as they tried to flee.

The assailants are reported to have set parked vehicles on fire in the vicinity to block off access to the mosque.

Pictures from the scene show rows of bloodied victims inside the mosque. At least 100 people were wounded, reports say, overwhelming hospitals.

"They were shooting at people as they left the mosque," a local resident who had relatives there told Reuters news agency. "They were shooting at the ambulances too."

Location of Egypt mosque attack

It is the deadliest militant attack in modern Egyptian history. Bir al-Abed is about 130 miles (211km) from Cairo.

Who was targeted?

Locals are quoted as saying that followers of Sufism, a mystical branch of Sunni Islam, regularly gathered at the mosque.

Although Sufis are widely accepted across much of the Muslim world, some jihadist groups, including IS, see them as heretics.

The head of IS's religious police in Sinai said last December that Sufis who did not "repent" would be killed, after the group beheaded two elderly men reported to be Sufi clerics.

The victim of the mosque attack also included military conscripts.

Egyptians walk past bodies following a gun and bombing attack at the Rawda mosque, roughly 40 kilometres west of the North Sinai capital of El-Arish, on November 24, 2017.Image copyright AFP

Who might be behind the attack?

Militant Islamists have been waging an insurgency on the Sinai peninsula in recent years, stepping up attacks after Egypt's military overthrew Islamist President Mohammed Morsi after mass anti-government protests in July 2013.

Hundreds of police, soldiers and civilians have been killed since then, mostly in attacks carried out by Sinai Province group, which is affiliated to IS.

In September, at least 18 policemen were killed when the group attacked a convoy near al-Arish.

Sinai Province has also carried out deadly attacks against Egypt's Coptic Christian minority elsewhere in the country, and said it bombed a Russian plane carrying tourists in Sinai in 2015, killing 224 people on board.

It has been operating mainly in North Sinai, which has been under a state of emergency since October 2014, when 33 security personnel were killed in an attack claimed by the group.

Sinai Province is thought to want to take control of the Sinai Peninsula in order to turn it into an Islamist province run by IS.

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An unprecedented attack

By Sally Nabil, BBC News, Cairo

Islamist militants have been operating in northern Sinai for several years, mainly targeting security forces.

But this is the first time that worshippers inside a mosque have been targeted. The number of victims is unprecedented for an attack of this type.

Northern Sinai has been living under a media blackout over the past few years. No media organisations have been allowed to go there, including state-sponsored ones.

The frequency of attacks raises doubts about the effectiveness of military operations. While the army releases statements every now and then, claiming victory in some parts of Sinai, there seems to be no end in sight to the ongoing battle between the army and militants.

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What has the reaction been?

President Sisi has declared three days of mourning. The military is reported to have already conducted air strikes in mountains around Bir al-Abed.

"What is happening is an attempt to stop us from our efforts in the fight against terrorism, to destroy our efforts to stop the terrible criminal plan that aims to destroy what is left of our region," Mr Sisi said in a televised address.

Arab League chief Ahmed Aboul Gheit condemned the attack as a "terrifying crime which again shows that Islam is innocent of those who follow extremist terrorist ideology".

Preisdent Sisi sits with three ministersImage copyright EPA Image caption Security forces will "avenge our martyrs", President Sisi said after emergency talks

UK Prime Minister Theresa May tweeted: "Appalled by the sickening attack on a mosque in North Sinai. Condolences with all those in #Egypt affected by this evil and cowardly act."

US President Donald Trump called the attack "horrible and cowardly". French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian expressed condolences to these families of those killed in the "despicable attack".

Latest Update Nov 25. 


Egypt mosque attackers had ISIS flag, death toll rises to 305 including 27 children

‎Today, ‎November ‎25, ‎2017, ‏‎2 hours ago
Gunmen who attacked a mosque in North Sinai were carrying an Islamic State flag

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And back in the USA.

6 children shot, 1 fatally, in Cleveland street violence

Police say there's no indication the shooting was gang related

The Associated PressPosted: Nov 25, 2017 7:25 AM ET Last Updated: Nov 25, 2017 10:09 AM ET

The shooting occurred in the area of Buckeye Road and East 117th Street in Cleveland.


One boy was shot dead and five other children were wounded after violence erupted late Friday on a Cleveland street.

Police say the age of the children ranged from 12 to 16. They say it seems the boys ran into another group and shots were fired, but there's no indication the violence was gang related.

Cleveland shooting

Police Chief Calvin Williams has sent his condolences to the family of the dead child, who hasn't been publicly identified.

"We don't know what exactly spurred this or what happened, but definitely our hearts go out to the families of the victims here," Williams said.

The wounded children were taken to hospital.

Williams said police are investigating and are appealing for the public's help in hunting down those involved in the shooting, which occurred between 7 p.m. and 7:30 p.m.

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New Mexico school shooter left note plotting attack, suicide

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AZTEC, N.M. (AP) -- A 21-year-old gunman who disguised himself as a student to get into a New Mexico high school where he killed two students had caught the attention of U.S. investigators more than a year ago, authorities said Friday.

William Atchison, a former student at small-town Aztec High School, had legally purchased a handgun at a local store a month ago and planned the attack, authorities said. He left a message on a thumb drive found on his body that detailed his plan to wait until the students got off buses and made their way to class.

He mingled with students, then walked into school with them and went into a second-floor bathroom to "gear up." Atchison's plan was to shoot up a classroom and then kill himself.

"Work sucks, school sucks, life sucks. I just want out of this (expletive)," he wrote.

More lives could have been lost had Francisco I. Fernandez not walked into the bathroom, authorities said. The gunman shot Fernandez, then walked out into the hallway and encountered the second victim, Casey J. Marquez. He immediately killed her.

Atchison then walked up and down the hall, firing randomly, before killing himself, authorities said.

"He was determined to create as much carnage as he possibly could," San Juan County Sheriff Ken Christesen said.

The shooter did not have a criminal record, much less a traffic ticket, officials said. The only contact with law enforcement was what they described as a generic message on an online gaming forum in 2016 in which he talked about what weapons might be used in a mass shooting.

The FBI said the posting was flagged and investigators talked with the gunman at his home in Aztec, where he lived with his parents. At the time, he did not own any weapons other than an airsoft pellet gun and said he had no plans for an attack and just liked to troll sites online.

The shooting has rocked Aztec, a community of about 6,500 near the Colorado border. Hundreds gathered for prayer services and candlelight vigils and more gatherings are planned over the weekend as residents look for answers.

In one bright spot, authorities said heroes at the school helped save lives.

A substitute teacher heard the gunshots but didn't have a key to lock the door to the computer lab. So she took students into an office or storage area and barricaded the door with a couch.

Atchison came to the room and yelled that he knew they were in there and fired multiple shots into the room, authorities said.

A custodian also heard the gunshots and yelled for teachers to lock their doors.

State Police Chief Pete Kassetas said the two victims were not specific targets.

Marquez was a cheerleader and was planning to perform in the upcoming Orange Bowl. Her classmates said she came across as a student leader.

Bryn Divine, a senior at Aztec High School, remembered the victim being a vibrant and friendly student who often won dance contests at school events.

"She lit up pretty much any room we were all in," Divine said. "She was such a fun person to be around."

Fernandez was known for his interest in computers and his speed on the keyboard. His family has said he had a bright future ahead of him.

Gov. Susana Martinez said she has met with the teens' families and they talked about what great kids they were. Both of them also had jobs.

Martinez said the families are broken but are pulling together.

"I don't think anyone ever gets over this," she said.

Investigators were still combing over evidence at the school Friday, trying to determine how many shots were fired. The gunman had several magazines and reloaded multiple times, Kassetas said.

At Atchison's home, investigators found a torn note in a trash can in his room that listed what they believed to be the timeline for Thursday's shooting. The last words written on the note read "die."

Authorities don't believe anyone else knew about Atchison's intentions but said they are still investigating.

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