Zan Vetter Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Hot take, airlines are not the cause of high fares in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Super 80 said: Looks like they basically plagiarized the Spirit website right down to the hokey video. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Swoop isn't exactly bilingual in a colloquial way is it? you made me look; IN BASIC ENGLISH :British English: swoop VERB. If police or soldiers swoop on a place, they go there suddenly and quickly, usually in order to arrest someone or to attack the place. The terror ended when armed police swooped on the car. in French: swoop (ˈswuːp ) noun (by police, soldiers) descente f to make a swoop on sth faire une descente sur qch [of bird, plane] descente f en piqué, piqué m ⇒ The swallow made another dazzling swoop through the air. L'hirondelle fit un autre piqué vertigineux. (= go) in one fell swoop or at one fell swoop d'un seul coup d'un seul intransitive verb (also swoop down) [bird, plane] descendre en piqué, piquer [police, troops] faire une descente to swoop on sth faire une descente sur qch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acsidestick Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Someone at WJ should have checked the Urban Dictionary,, as well, for more contemporary meanings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internet Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 The dumbest name. The ugliest livery. With the sole purpose of doing exactly what WS screamed and went insane over in the early 2000 - to eliminate upcoming competition. Wont take very long for people to disparagingly call it "poop" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 minutes ago, internet said: The dumbest name. The ugliest livery. With the sole purpose of doing exactly what WS screamed and went insane over in the early 2000 - to eliminate upcoming competition. Wont take very long for people to disparagingly call it "poop" If so then the latest update will of course be called "The Latest Poop on Scoop". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaEH Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I always chuckle when I hear people share their thoughts on an airlines name (or a pets name or a kids name or.....). There's that initial shock but it becomes normal after a while. Who cares about the name or the livery it's the purpose or application that should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 42 minutes ago, Malcolm said: If so then the latest update will of course be called "The Latest Poop on Scoop". Shush Malcolm. No matter how good that sounds don't give them any ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, Malcolm said: If so then the latest update will of course be called "The Latest Poop on Scoop". Yes, but it will all fit well should Swoop decide to resurrect the oh-so-fun WestJet tradition of TP races in the aisle. Yee-haw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, FA@AC said: Yes, but it will all fit well should Swoop decide to resurrect the oh-so-fun WestJet tradition of TP races in the aisle. Yee-haw. They wouldn't "stoop" to that level would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeman Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 hours ago, FA@AC said: Yes, but it will all fit well should Swoop decide to resurrect the oh-so-fun WestJet tradition of TP races in the aisle. Yee-haw. Standing next to my stool in anticipation...pardon the pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I suppose we the general public should consider ourselves lucky. If this was the name they agreed was best, I can only imagine what ones ended up in the waste bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 16 hours ago, MD2 said: Yet as it is, people drive all the way to Buffalo to catch a cheaper flight. Flights out of Hamilton will likely be full of people that are tired of paying $650 for a one way flight from Vancouver to Toronto and not even get a sandwich for it! Not to mention that the area already has 4 million people in its own catchment. Air Canada has simply reduced the service while keeping the price up, even with fuel prices dropping; just because it could. That will soon change as it attempts to chase the new entrants. I think this is true for some, but most people I know in Toronto fly from Pearson. If you live in Mississauga through Niagara, it's a practical option. But for getting to Buffalo you need to navigate a number of choked highways, and go through the pleasures of US customs lineups (far worse, from my experience, at land crossings). Once a year holiday travellers, especially families, do it, but not more frequent travellers that I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 I think it's stupid and I would personally never bother, but if you have a family of four or five the savings add up. I know a family in Calgary that drove all the way to Seattle to fly to Orlando because it was $450 less per head and there were five of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zan Vetter Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 12 hr drive each way. So you save $100/hr gross for each hour of driving. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Don't look at me, this family drives all the way to Ontario every summer and drove all the way to Cancun about a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILB Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 9/28/2017 at 0:23 PM, Zan Vetter said: 12 hr drive each way. So you save $100/hr gross for each hour of driving. Crazy. Like a fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedStriker Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 To the question about WS pilots signing an LOU. Why would WestJet pilots do this before having a first CBA in place? I beleive the expansion is limited within the existing network as the bargaining unit would have a right to follow their work. Canadian Labour laws date back 100 plus years addressing another company starting up to circumvent a union. (long time lurker) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Swoop partners with Navitaire Français Swoop 07:00 ET Reservation system to be the heart of Swoop's digital operations CALGARY, Oct. 18, 2017 /CNW/ - Swoop announced today it has selected Navitaire as its reservation system. Navitaire is globally-recognized as the go-to reservation and retailing system for ultra-low-cost carriers (ULCCs) around the world. "Swoop is here to provide low fares for the price-sensitive traveller and our partnership with Navitaire will help Swoop create the low-cost structure and ancillary capabilities needed to ensure our success," said Bob Cummings, WestJet Executive Vice-President Strategy. "Navitaire offers an easy-to-use reservation system allowing the complete unbundling of products and services as well as enabling digital self-service. We are giving the power to the customer to decide what they want to pay for and what they don't - making the airline a truly affordable option for Canadians." "We are delighted Swoop has selected Navitaire as its reservation platform," said David P. Evans, Navitaire CEO. "Navitaire is the leader in reservation and ancillary revenue-generating systems for the world's largest and most successful ultra-low-cost carriers. We are impressed with the team Swoop has assembled, its business model and market plans. Together, Navitaire and Swoop are a good fit, sharing DNA focused on combining advanced retailing with a digital-first, proven platform to help create an innovative, customer-centric business. We're looking forward to watching Swoop's success and future growth as they take the ULCC model to new heights." Sign up at FlySwoop.com to receive details about Swoop's job opportunities, launch plans and to learn more about Canada's newest airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I understand that Navitaire is kind of a simple version of Amadeus. Why wouldn't it have been cheaper to use WestJet's existing Sabre system to sell Swoop's product? I'm also curious about whether Navitaire has the ability to link with Sabre or if with this move WestJet is entirely separating its mainline and ULCC products. Will combined itineraries be offered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airband Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 To bolster the argument of it being an arm's length relationship in the event of a 'common employer' challenge at some point down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Licensing of the Sabre suite would likely be prohibitively expensive. Sabre ain't cheap by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, FA@AC said: I understand that Navitaire is kind of a simple version of Amadeus. Amadeus bought Navitaire a while back. It did not make Navitaire any more robust and it is still only suitable for smaller simpler operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Fido said: Amadeus bought Navitaire a while back. It did not make Navitaire any more robust and it is still only suitable for smaller simpler operations. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 12 hours ago, FA@AC said: I'm also curious about whether Navitaire has the ability to link with Sabre or if with this move WestJet is entirely separating its mainline and ULCC products. Will combined itineraries be offered? I think it can be done with XML or EDIFACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critter Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 My understanding is the swoop customer will have to book a separate flight on their own or pay a fee to have the connection set up for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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