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Air Canada opts for more Max-8s, fewer Max-9s


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I don't think very many MAX 9s will be built. Those who need flexibility will go with the MAX 8, those who need capacity will go with the MAX 10 for all the difference it makes. The MAX 9 is a pig, the MAX 10 will also be a pig. Those who need range have already bought the A321neo.

Although I wouldn't be surprised to see WS take their ten MAX 9 orders (first delivery 2018), they needed aircraft that size several years ago to keep the Terminal 3 monster fed.

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Of equal interest is what will happen with the MAX 7?

WestJet has 25 on order and Southwest 30. There's a few more scattered orders but certainly less than those two combined. Boeing stretched the original MAX 7 by two rows and still no new orders.

I suspect Boeing may be getting a bit of a stare down right now from Dallas and Calgary...

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The MAX 7 can't possibly be the outlay the 767-400 was, but Boeing probably felt building 37 of those was worth it to keep Delta and Continental from ordering the A330 back in the 90's.

I don't know where WestJet's fleet plan currently shakes out with the number of the 600 and 700 sized aircraft, but it's an issue Boeing probably doesn't want WestJet to think too hard about.

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On 2017-06-29 at 0:46 PM, Super 80 said:

The MAX 7 can't possibly be the outlay the 767-400 was, but Boeing probably felt building 37 of those was worth it to keep Delta and Continental from ordering the A330 back in the 90's.

I don't know where WestJet's fleet plan currently shakes out with the number of the 600 and 700 sized aircraft, but it's an issue Boeing probably doesn't want WestJet to think too hard about.

I think it's north of 60 for the 600/700. What it will cost Boeing is not really the point. I doubt WJ or SW for that matter want to be stuck with an aircraft with limited to no resale value. The -600 is a case in point. Nobody wants them. I suspect WestJet will run them out the back door at 25 years. 

Leaves a pretty big hole in the fleet between 80 and 180 seats as the -700's depart...

hmm, wonder what could fill that void? 

 

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22 hours ago, Maverick said:

I think it's north of 60 for the 600/700. What it will cost Boeing is not really the point. I doubt WJ or SW for that matter want to be stuck with an aircraft with limited to no resale value. The -600 is a case in point. Nobody wants them. I suspect WestJet will run them out the back door at 25 years. 

Leaves a pretty big hole in the fleet between 80 and 180 seats as the -700's depart...

hmm, wonder what could fill that void? 

 

When WestJet bought the 600 they made the value judgement that commonality with the NG was preferable to buying the Embraer 190, at the time WS bought it they already knew it was a niche aircraft. It could be they need to make that judgement again but I don't think Boeing is going to force them into that position.

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8 hours ago, J.O. said:

Buying the MAX is like buying a Harley. Paying tomorrow's prices for something which is based mostly on yesterday's technology. Makes no sense to me at all.

I don't get the change of single aisle aircraft supplier either. Does AC see a source of qualified pilots ready to jump ship?

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22 minutes ago, blues deville said:

I don't get the change of single aircraft supplier either. Does AC see a source of qualified pilots ready to jump ship?

Could be a decision re  "Better off under ACPA OR ALPA.  :D

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