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If they were teens I would expect that they are not the actual employees but rather the children of the employee.  The father was apparently allowed to board wearing shorts which is something I would not expect to be permitted at most airlines.

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43 minutes ago, anonymous said:

Off course the headline is totally misleading !

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/03/26/two-teens-barred-from-united-airlines-flight-for-wearing-leggings.html

Not only did they not follow the dress code but you get other people publicizing the situation ...

I wouldn't want to be the employee related to this fiasco.

If their policy reads like most, her / she will likely lose their pass privileges.  A lot of people forget, when granting reducted rates or passes to friends and family, the employee if held accountable for their actions.   No leggings / tights. A lot of you are too young to remember but not so long ago, you could tell who was on a pass (particularly in the tropics), they were the ones in the suits and other very conservative attire. Quite different from that of the "REGULAR" passengers.  No jeans, no shorts, no flipflops  but lots of sweat. :D  Following for an example is a copy of what is said to be the current American Airlines dress code for pass travel:

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Dress Code while Traveling  
At American Airlines, we are proud to have one of the most relaxed dress codes in the industry that in turn gives you and your guests much more freedom and flexibility in traveling. You must ensure that your pass travelers adhere to the dress code. Pass travelers who are improperly dressed will not be accommodated on the flight. If a traveler is properly attired for coach but not for first or business, and only first or business is available, the traveler will not be accommodated in first or business class. 
AA mainline First Class attire requirements also apply to non-revenue customers who are accommodated in the First Class cabin of an Eagle (CRJ) aircraft. 
Additionally, once you or your guests have been accommodated for a flight, it is a violation of travel privileges to change into clothing that does not meet the appropriate dress code. The dress code as listed below applies to travel on AA and American Eagle. See also Sabre Star Record N*DRESS and F*PSM/NRSA/DRESS in Focus. 
 Attire for all cabins must be well groomed, neat, clean, and in good taste. (If in doubt, wear something else.)  Traditional or casual business attire is required for first or business class accommodation.  Coats, jackets, and ties for men are not required.  Hosiery and socks or collars are not required for men or women.  Women's style of shoes or sandals such as open toe, sling-back, and clogs are acceptable.  Capri pants are acceptable in all cabins. 
Do not Wear  
The following are examples of unacceptable attire. Items listed in the left-hand column are not acceptable in any cabin. Items in right hand column are not acceptable in first or business class cabin. 
  
Not Acceptable in Any Cabin Shorts or T-Shirts Sweatshirts or tank tops Micro-mini skirts Jogging suits, workout clothing or leggings Bare-midriff or provocative/revealing/see-through clothing Beach clothing or footwear, flip-flops Clothing with offensive terminology or graphics Clothing with holes/ragged or cutoff edges 
  

Not Acceptable in First or Business 
(acceptable for coach cabin only)  Denim clothing of any kind or color  Athletic footwear/casual sandals Split skirts above the knee  Skorts 
Note: Children age six (6) and under are permitted to wear shorts in coach. 
Due to the diversity and constantly changing nature of fashion, we will never be able to cover all possible types of attire. We rely on you to carefully consider the intent of the dress code for the class of service you desire when selecting clothing to wear on a trip. 

 
Compliance with Travel Standards  
Travel is a unique and special privilege we offer to our employees and their guests. As with any privilege, it's important that everyone follow the standards and expectations outlined below. Please ensure that you and your guests understand these standards and expectations when traveling on American Airlines (AA) and American Eagle as well as other carriers. 
 You or your guests may only use travel privileges for personal pleasure travel. Your personal travel privileges may not be used for any kind of business-related travel.  You may use personal travel for your personal charitable efforts as long as no compensation and no personal benefit is received. A personal benefit includes, but is not limited to, accommodations, meals, tickets, merchandise of other than nominal value, the benefit of future business that may create personal gain, etc., and cannot create a Conflict of Interest.  Travel passes may not be sold, purchased, donated, traded, or exchanged for goods or services.   It is important that you avoid revealing to revenue passengers that you are an airline employee or that you are traveling on a pass or reduced rate ticket.  Our customers always come first. Observe the highest standards of courtesy and conduct toward everyone with whom you come in contact. Be alert to the needs of our customers. Offer to move so revenue passengers traveling together may sit together or otherwise be more comfortable.  Our employees working the flights are extremely busy serving our customers. Cooperate fully with instructions and decisions given to you by employees on duty. If you feel that you have been treated improperly, wait until you return to work and have your Manager forward your comments to the proper department.  All employees using travel privileges are required to follow all airport security regulations. This includes a mandatory TSA screening of any passenger or luggage traveling on-board our aircraft. Security screening requirements also apply to NRSA travelers and their bags. Employees and guests may not enter the secured area of airport terminals through employee portals or entrances with the intention of traveling unless they are a working crewmember. SIDA (Security Identification Display Areas) access may be permanently revoked by TSA and corrective action by the company will result for any breach of airport security.  After checking in at the airport, remain clear of the ticket lift desk or service center until you are called by name to receive a seat assignment.  When given a boarding pass, board as soon as directed and take your assigned seat. Do not ask other passengers to move to improve your seating. If asked to change your seat, change your cabin, or deplane, do so quickly and quietly.  We provide special amenities to our customers that in turn cost the Company significant money. As a pass traveler, it is important that you do not request special services or considerations such as special meals or complimentary products such as alcoholic drinks, buy-on-board products, or headsets from ground or in-flight personnel except for medical aid that may be required in-flight.  If you drink alcoholic beverages on a flight, drink moderately. Employees traveling in uniform are not permitted to consume alcoholic beverages.  You may not use space available passes if you have already booked travel using AAdvantage Miles, an AA20, or any revenue ticket on the same day between the same cities.  Allow for sufficient time to return to work when traveling standby. Failure to report to work on time because of problems encountered while using travel privileges is not an acceptable excuse.  If you are unable to work when scheduled, you are unable to travel.  If you and your travelers do not intend to travel on a specific flight, you may not check in for that flight in order to be rolled to a later flight for the purpose of obtaining an earlier check-in time. 
 
Keeping the Aircraft Clean  
Before deplaning, pick up after yourself and the immediate area around you. Give your newspapers and service items to the Flight Attendants prior to landing, or take them with you. This will provide more time for our flight and ground crews to focus on other cleaning items within the cabin to ensure we have the best product for our customers. 
 
 
 PLEASE be sure you have read and understand the entire A

 

And evidently this is the one for United:

Here’s the dress code for non-revs on United:

  • Pass riders’ overall appearance should be well-groomed, neat, clean and in good taste.
  • Attire should be respectful of fellow revenue passengers, employees and pass riders.
  • Pass riders may wear denim attire (such as jeans), shorts that are no more than three inches above the knee and athletic shoes when traveling in Coach or Business cabin.

The following attire is unacceptable in any cabin but is not limited to:

  • Any attire that reveals a midriff.
  • Attire that reveals any type of undergarments.
  • Attire that is designated as sleepwear, underwear, or swim attire.
  • Mini Skirts
  • Shorts that do not meet 3 inches above the knee when in a standing position.
  • Form-fitting lycra/spandex tops, pants and dresses.
  • Attire that has offensive and/or derogatory terminology or graphics.
  • Attire that is excessively dirty or has holes/tears.
  • Any attire that is provocative, inappropriately revealing, or see-through clothing.
  • Bare feet
  • Beach-type, rubber flip-flops
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Here I thought WestJet had the slackest dress code. Although it's similar it's not policed... generally. Especially with the online checking or kiosk useage and overwhelmed gate agents. Flight attendants don't know who is traveling as employee, dependants or buddies as the walk on board. You're right I wouldn't want to be the pass holder for that fiasco. 

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10 hours ago, vanishing point said:

Airlines have a dress code.  All employees know this.  Follow the policy or buy a ticket if you want to "dress down".

But, for the last 30 years there have been the ones that want to argue this point.

Back in my airport days I pulled the passes for a number of employees.

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6 minutes ago, Super 80 said:

If there was a situation to be publicized in the first place the gate agent had to have been handling the situation pretty poorly.

Perhaps this could have been handled differently but if these kids didn't know how to dress properly it's possible they didn't know how to behave either. Quiet, polite teens might have been given a pass. 

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25 minutes ago, Super 80 said:

If there was a situation to be publicized in the first place the gate agent had to have been handling the situation pretty poorly.

Or there was a "Nosey Parker" watching. :D since standby cons are boarded, mostly last, there is always a crowd of Revenue passengers in the area hoping for a magic upgrade. 

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And now a clarification from UAL. Evidently the pass travellers did not cause any fuss, it was indeed (my words) a noseyparker.  

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Hours later, the airline clarified its response. It tweeted that the passengers who were flying "were not in compliance with our dress code policy for company benefit travel."

On Sunday evening, a United spokesman clarified what had transpired at the gate.

 


Two groups were traveling separately on the Minneapolis to Denver flight on Sunday morning. The first group of three traveling on a travel pass through United's company travel perk program included two teenage girls wearing leggings who attempted to board the flight, according to Jonathan Guerin, a spokesman for United.

The two teenagers, whose ages were not identified by the airline, were notified by a female gate agent that their leggings violated the travel pass dress code. There was "no uproar, no tears" and the teenagers left the gate area without incident, according to Guerin.

A second group in line behind the teenagers, including a younger girl also wearing leggings, is believed by United to have seen the exchange between the gate agent and the teenagers who were denied boarding, according to Guerin. A woman in the party took a dress out of the party's carry-on luggage to cover the younger girl.

Guerin said there was no exchange between the family with the younger girl and the gate attendant nor was there any mention of the dress code to the family. They departed on the flight to Denver.

The longstanding policy requires those who enjoy the perks of airline employment, which include free travel passes for family and guests, to present themselves in a way that represents the airline well.

According to the policy, which was provided to CNNMoney by a United employee, "pass riders" aren't allowed to wear clothing that doesn't look "neat and professional."

That includes form-fitting lycra or spandex tops, pants and dresses, offensive or derogatory words or graphics on clothing, "excessively dirty" clothing that has holes or tears, or anything that is "inappropriately revealing."

 


"Pass riders should use good judgment and common sense" about items not explicitly on their list, according to the policy.

And it says dress attire for those using the perks "should always meet or exceed the casual standards" of the flying public.

United tweeted back at critics of its rule, including Arquette, to clarify that "leggings are not inappropriate attire except in the case of someone traveling as a pass rider."

But others weren't convinced the policy had merit.

"We here at @united are just trying to police the attire of the daughters of our employees!" read a sarcastic tweet from actor and comedian Seth Rogen. "That's all! Cool, right?"

 

 

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5 hours ago, Malcolm said:

Or there was a "Nosey Parker" watching. :D since standby cons are boarded, mostly last, there is always a crowd of Revenue passengers in the area hoping for a magic upgrade. 

You called it. When I read your post I thought someone cleverly "ratted" them out. I guess Hollywood can return to the "Friendly Skies".  

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