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Runway 15L Excursion YYZ AC623


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Metar data for approximate time...

 

CYYZ 250528Z 06009KT 3/4SM R15L/P6000FT/U R06L/P6000FT/D R05/6000FT/D R15R/P6000FT/U -SHRA BR VV002 03/03 A2951 RMK FG8 PRESFR SLP998
CYYZ 250515Z VRB07KT 3/4SM R15L/2600VP6000FT/U R24R/3000V6000FT/U R15R/3000VP6000FT/U -TSRA BR VV002 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC SLP016
CYYZ 250500Z VRB02KT 3/8SM R15L/2800FT/N R24R/3000FT/D R15R/3500FT/U -TSRA FG VV001 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC PRESFR SLP018
CYYZ 250450Z 22005KT 170V230 3/8SM R15L/3000FT/N R24R/3500V5000FT/U R15R/3500FT/U -TSRA VV001 03/03 A2959 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC PRESRR SLP028
CYYZ 250429Z VRB03KT 3/8SM R15L/3000FT/N R24R/3000FT/N R15R/3000FT/D FG VV001 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 PRESFR SLP017
CYYZ 250400Z 12006KT 1/2SM R15L/4500VP6000FT/N R24R/4000V5500FT/D R15R/3000V5500FT/D FG VV002 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 SLP017

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

I hate it when they spin. 

Autoland issues?

1 hour ago, Johnboy said:

Morning Kip see my post  Runway 15L excursion YYZ AC623

 

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27 minutes ago, Zan Vetter said:

I believe it the runway was 15R.

I think this may be correct.  Everything so far has been 15L...

 

170118 CYYZ TORONTO/LESTER B.PEARSON INTL
  CYYZ RWY 15R/33L CLSD, AVBL AS TWY NORTH OF TWY H
1702250540 TIL 1702251700
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From the CBC article:  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/air-canada-ac623-slid-off-runway-1.3999438

The incident appeared to have damaged the undercarriage of the plane, passenger Paul Varian told CBC.

"The whole of the undercarriage on my side, on the left-hand side, when we took a look while we were deplaning was destroyed. The tires were completely gone off the wheel," he said.  Ahhh, no Paul, the undercarriage was not destroyed and the tires were not gone - flat but not gone.

This is why you don't listen to anything non-expert witnesses say.

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3 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

johnboy....

Sorry about the double posting. I heard the story and then "she" said we have to go to KG for the granddaughters  hockey...I should have read your post first but was in a hurry....:o

No problem whatsoever amigo.  When "she" speaks here I have the same reaction!

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38 minutes ago, conehead said:

"The cognitive voice recorder (CDR) and the flight data recorder (FDR) were taken from the plane and sent to the TSB lab in Ottawa for further analysis."

Cognitive Voice Recorder. Never heard of that.

It records that little voice in your head. 

 

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21 hours ago, Airband said:

No centreline lighting on 15R?

You are correct. The only one with no CL lights and the second shortest runway at YYZ. Based on runway surface winds, YYZ will use 15L/R for late night arrivals for noise. But it was always my experience and without fail to have some tailwind component most of the way down on those approaches after midnight. 

Crazy winter weather. 
Metars (Airport: Toronto, Lester B. Pearson International Airport):
CYYZ 250718Z 13009KT 2 1/2SM RA BR OVC002 03/02 A2953 RMK NS8 SLP005
CYYZ 250700Z 16009KT 130V200 3SM -RA BR OVC003 03/03 A2953 RMK NS8 SLP006  
CYYZ 250600Z 14002KT 3SM -RA BR OVC003 03/03 A2950 RMK NS8 SLP997  
CYYZ 250542Z 08010KT 2SM -RA BR OVC003 03/03 A2949 RMK NS8 PRESFR SLP992
CYYZ 250528Z 06009KT 3/4SM R15L/P6000FT/U R06L/P6000FT/D R05/6000FT/D R15R/P6000FT/U -SHRA BR VV002 03/03 A2951 RMK FG8 PRESFR SLP998
CYYZ 250515Z VRB07KT 3/4SM R15L/2600VP6000FT/U R24R/3000V6000FT/U R15R/3000VP6000FT/U -TSRA BR VV002 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC SLP016
CYYZ 250500Z VRB02KT 3/8SM R15L/2800FT/N R24R/3000FT/D R15R/3500FT/U -TSRA FG VV001 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC PRESFR SLP018
CYYZ 250450Z CCA 22005KT 170V230 3/8SM R15L/3000FT/N R24R/3500V5000FT/U R15R/3500FT/U -TSRA FG VV001 03/03 A2959 RMK FG8 OCNL LTGIC PRESRR SLP028
CYYZ 250429Z VRB03KT 3/8SM R15L/3000FT/N R24R/3000FT/N R15R/3000FT/D FG VV001 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 PRESFR SLP017
CYYZ 250400Z 12006KT 1/2SM R15L/4500VP6000FT/N R24R/4000V5500FT/D R15R/3000V5500FT/D FG VV002 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 SLP017
CYYZ 250313Z 11007KT 1/4SM R15L/2800VP6000FT/D R24R/2600FT/N R15R/3500V4500FT/NFG VV001 03/03 A2956 RMK FG8 SLP017
CYYZ 250300Z 11007KT 1/2SM R15L/3500VP6000FT/U R24R/3500FT/D R15R/5000FT/D FG VV001 03/03 A2957 RMK FG8 SLP020  
CYYZ 250232Z 09007KT 070V140 1/2SM FG VV001 04/03 A2958 RMK FG8 SLP022
CYYZ 250224Z 12008KT 3/4SM BR VV002 04/03 A2958 RMK FG8 SLP023
CYYZ 250200Z 12006KT 2SM BR OVC002 04/03 A2959 RMK ST8 PRESFR SLP026

Started monitoring YYZ's overnight weather at 0100Z (8pm Thursday) for a 1400Z (9am Friday) morning arrival as it was low vis ops with light winds most of the night. A dramatic weather and wind change was forecast at 1500z with ragged ceilings and gusty SW winds. By the time we were on the arrival the ATIS was advertising an ILS24R and ATC advised expect only delaying vectors versus holding due to an earlier backlog of arrivals. And apparently YYZ's local wildlife was also back in the sky as the tower controller advised "lots of bird activity from 1000' to the runway".  Other than the permanent ATIS bird comment, I don't think I've ever heard that kind of a warning from YYZ before. 

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7 hours ago, CanadaEH said:

What? No jokes about inexperience? 

No jokes about ........ ah **bleep** it. It's not WJ. 

No. no, you've got it wrong;  For AC the joke is about arrogance, for WS the joke is about being cowboys, for Encore the joke is about inexperience.

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