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2 minutes ago, Malcolm said:

Here in the west we are seeing a lot of non ethnic gangs that exist because of their common cause.  $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Major crime groups in Calgary include Aboriginal street, East Asian (Filipino/Chinese/Vietnamese) street gangs, Middle Eastern/Lebanese organized crime gangs, Punjabi street gangs and Black street gangs, among others are biker gangs, Mexican drug cartels, Somali/Sudanese drug trafficking groups, Afghan Street Gangs and ...

Between 2002-2009 there was a bloody gang war between two rival East Asian gangs the FK and FOB gangs which resulted in 25 gang related murders. Not only East Asians were involved but there were also White, (East) Indian, and in some cases Black gang members part of these gangs.[14][15] Disputes over the illegal distribution of fentanyl have broken out within the Middle Eastern community (with some being Lebanese).[16] Similar to the Asian street gangs of the early 2000s, these are not therefore from exclusively one ethnicity.[17]

 

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Back to carding and minimum 5 years in jail if caught with a gun! 

Am I missing something ? The baggage retrieval area in most airports can be accessed by anyone in the general public, especially in the US. So anyone in the general public could have walked in, and in

Magic 94.9 Web Poll Do you think banning handguns in Canada would curb gun violence? Yes     (1.23%)

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It seems to me that after asserting that that there are lots of non ethnic gangs the piece focuses on the issue of ethnic gangs. 

This could easily be an entire thread, and a long one at that. Beyond the cultural aspects there is a strong human nature component (IMO) which leads naturally to the propensity to divide into tribes. Ironically, it's democracy and the rule of law that keeps it all in the correct orbit. 

Take a bunch of white blonde people and isolate them on an island... I bet within a short period they will divide into tribes based on eye colour. Blue eyes in the south, brown eyes in the north, green and others will form an entirely separate tribe and send raiding parties along the north south border.

I know it all sounds a bit cynical but that seems to be the way of it. Without democracy, the rule of law and constitutional protections for individuals (not tribes) things spiral downward in a predictable and oft repeated trajectory with only the circumstances leading to the decent being inconsistent.

Those on "brunet Island" will assert that their situation is entirely unique due to the higher demographic with brown eyes and their propensity toward lawlessness and violence. I think that after a few peace keeping missions you come to appreciate the insanity of it all.

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It's worth noting that PAL/RPAL course loadings are full to capacity. Gun sales are off the charts and ammunition sales are the same. Bags of first time gun owners both here and in the US and club memberships are swelling.  

JT has sold more guns than any other PM in our history. The exact opposite effect of that intended and the projected budget numbers are.... well, I don't want to spoil the surprise. 

I'd like to propose a buyback scheme for wine/beer home brew kits because it will stop people from overdosing on Fentanyl. If you can't fathom the connection there please ask a liberal about it.

https://www.torontosun.com/news/national/feds-enlist-ibm-to-help-design-gun-buyback-program

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On 12/30/2020 at 9:16 AM, Wolfhunter said:

It seems to me that after asserting that that there are lots of non ethnic gangs the piece focuses on the issue of ethnic gangs. 

This could easily be an entire thread, and a long one at that. Beyond the cultural aspects there is a strong human nature component (IMO) which leads naturally to the propensity to divide into tribes. Ironically, it's democracy and the rule of law that keeps it all in the correct orbit. 

Take a bunch of white blonde people and isolate them on an island... I bet within a short period they will divide into tribes based on eye colour. Blue eyes in the south, brown eyes in the north, green and others will form an entirely separate tribe and send raiding parties along the north south border.

I know it all sounds a bit cynical but that seems to be the way of it. Without democracy, the rule of law and constitutional protections for individuals (not tribes) things spiral downward in a predictable and oft repeated trajectory with only the circumstances leading to the decent being inconsistent.

Those on "brunet Island" will assert that their situation is entirely unique due to the higher demographic with brown eyes and their propensity toward lawlessness and violence. I think that after a few peace keeping missions you come to appreciate the insanity of it all.

Dr. Seuss said it best:

 

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Here is episode #2 which overviews some of the deliberate statistical manipulation. It's a talent, Liberals will look you right in the eye while lying about it.

It goes a bit deeper than presented IMO and the deeper you go the more deliberate, cynical and manipulative the malfeasance becomes.... unfortunately, looking deeper would put most viewers (meaning voters) to sleep and that's a huge part of the problem.

 

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The manipulation of the data is a joke.......once again, the liberal mantra...

 

With a helping hand from advocacy groups that basically lie and mislead committees and the public.

 

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Under the heading......WHERE ARE THEY NOW??.......Certainly not seeking a better path....

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When a Minnesota State Trooper stopped a pickup truck for speeding on a U.S. highway this week, he not only discovered an arsenal of 67 suspected crime guns inside but two Toronto fugitives — one wanted for murder and the other for the kidnapping of a wealthy Chinese student.

Dayne Adrian Sitladeen, 29, and Muzamil Aden Addow, 29, are both wanted for high-profile crimes in Ontario.

Sitladeen is a popular Toronto rapper known as Yung Lava who appeared in a 2019 documentary with hip hop star Drake and others admonishing gun violence the same year he was at the top of the Toronto police’s Most Wanted list — considered armed and dangerous — until his name and photo were removed after his arrest.

He is one of three men wanted for first-degree murder in the shooting death of Blain Grindley, a 26-year-old Toronto man killed in an Etobicoke home on May 1, 2019, police said at the time. The other two suspects have been arrested.

Addow was named as one of four men wanted by York Regional Police for a bizarre kidnapping that made international headlines in March 2019.

Three masked men grabbed Wanzhen Lu, a 22-year-old student at a private university, from the parking garage of his upmarket condo building in Markham, north of Toronto.

Officers found 67 guns and numerous magazines in four bags in the truck, according to the complaint. One was loaded with live ammunition.

Both men were in the United States illegally. They were found to be Canadian citizens with no record of a legal border crossing. Under U.S. federal law, illegal aliens are not allowed to possess a firearm.

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/fugitives-wanted-in-canada-for-murder-kidnapping-found-with-an-arsenal-during-u-s-traffic-stop-police-say

 

Any bets where those guns were headed to??  Just don’t ask Bill Blair.

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Here is the very definition of bad timing, unintended consequence and the impact of cause and effect.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gun-control-rep-sheila-jackson-lee-national-firearm-registry-licensing

Gun and ammunition sales, requests for (concealed carry) background checks and the number of first time gun owners is literally of the charts. Much of that is directly attributable to the lawless nature of seven months of unrestrained violent protests and the reckless defunding of police resources. 

Ironically, many of the NRA's newest members would have supported this bill in the absence of the very foolishness that set off the buying frenzy in the first place. The unintended consequence here is setting back their efforts by many years.... perhaps decades.

Thoughtless short term actions for craven political gain have long term consequences, a notion lost on liberal minded politicians.

Imagine the long term effects of their efforts on the immigration front. 

 

 

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OTTAWA -- Newly tabled gun legislation would allow municipalities to ban handguns through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says today the measures will be backed up with serious penalties to enforce these bylaws, including jail time for people who violate municipal rules.

Many gun-control advocates have pressed for a national handgun ban, warning that leaving it up to municipalities would create an ineffective patchwork of regulations.

As expected, the long-promised bill also proposes a buyback of a wide array of recently banned firearms the government considers assault-style weapons.

The bill would also increase criminal penalties for gun smuggling and trafficking, and enhance the capacity of police and border officers to keep illegal firearms out of the country.

It would also create new offences for altering the cartridge magazine of a firearm and introduce tighter restrictions on importing ammunition.

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3 hours ago, Kargokings said:

restricting their possession, storage and transportation

All three are more heavily restricted (right now) than the average voter realizes. 

I've had that conversation with numerous people who were surprised by the current rules.

When you ask them what they think is a reasonable regulatory framework most of their recommendations fall short of the existing rules. 

When the surprise wears off a bit they usually revert to "nobody needs a handgun." The conversation ends when I mention ATV/snowmobile accidents and the rampant speeding/carbon emissions attendant with owning a car having more than a 2.0 litre engine. Since speed kills, those cars should be governed to a maximum speed of 90 KPH. Any 2.0 litre (and below) outfitted with racing stripes would be deemed a race car and require a speed governor as well. 

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This will likely get beat to death but for instance:

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How do municipalities control highway traffic?
Municipalities also have jurisdiction, delegated to them by their provincial governments, to control highway traffic and maintain the roads within their control. The traffic rules of municipalities are created by bylaws.

A Typical Liberal feel good exercise that will result in nothing to prevent shootings.  Facts also support that registered gun owners simply only commit a very small percentage of all gun crimes in Canada. Criminals on the other hand.  

By the by the proposed legislation will not take any guns away from criminals with guns.

So if a Municipality bands hand guns in theory you could travel on the Federal highway through a Municipality legally under federal law but if you departed the highway to get gas then the Municipal bylaw would kick in. Now the kicker, Municipalities can enact bylaws but they are only able to level fines, not Gaol Time. 

Then look at GVRD, which is made up by West Vancouver, North Vancouver, the District of North Vancouver, Burnaby, Richmond (where the international airport is located), New Westminister, Surrey, Delta, White Rock, the City of Langley, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, Port Moody, Anmore, Pitt Meadows, Mapleridge and the Univeristy Endowment Lands (UBC), so lets say you are on a highway that goes from North Vancouver, through Vancouver, then into Richmond, onto Delta etc etc.  If all the Municipalities didn't ban hand guns, you would go from no bylaw infraction , to a bylaw infraction, to no bylaw infraction while at the same time (assuming you have a registered handgun etc.) you would not be breaking any Canadian Law.  So again I guess if you, in the absence of any roadblocks, leave the highway to get gas you could be fined under a municipal bylaw.  

So just more feel good, look at we are doing and by the way vote for us in the next election.   🤬

 

 

 

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Fwiw.....listening to talk radio today....the view by a pro gun lobbyist was that if the municipality passed a bylaw affecting handgun possession/storage, it would be approved by the provincial CFO, and attract penalties under the criminal code. So, under this bill, a contravention of municipal bylaw would result in a federal criminal charge and criminal penalty.

 

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12 hours ago, st27 said:

Fwiw.....listening to talk radio today....the view by a pro gun lobbyist was that if the municipality passed a bylaw affecting handgun possession/storage, it would be approved by the provincial CFO, and attract penalties under the criminal code. So, under this bill, a contravention of municipal bylaw would result in a federal criminal charge and criminal penalty.

 

Hmmm not sure the lobbyist is correct:

CFO Duties

  • Issuing and revoking firearm licences
  • Approving firearm purchases and sales
  • Issuing Authorizations To Transport firearms
  • Issuing Authorizations To Carry firearms
  • Approving shooting clubs and ranges
  • Administering the Canadian Firearms Safety Course
  • Approving and inspecting gun shops and other businesses

In great detail: Justice Laws Search

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Maybe something was lost in translation (and who knows if what the libs are doing is even legal from charter POV) but the result is bylaw infraction will result in criminal code charges and penalties:

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The Liberals, having studied the issue of handguns in Canada for years, have concluded that they aren’t going to pursue a national ban, but that they’ll let municipal governments draft their own rules regarding storage and transportation, and will use federal criminal law to give those municipal regulations teeth.

This is from an article in the National Post which sums the efforts of sock boy nicely:

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You’ll face new restrictions on transport and usage, but you can keep your AR-15, as can the tens of thousands of other Canadians who own them.

That’s what Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has decided. Trudeau, who said these rifles are “designed for one purpose: to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time,” is leaving tens of thousands of them in the hands of Canadians.

The Liberal handgun proposal is similarly nonsensical (I described it in a previous column as “breathtakingly stupid,” and that’s still an apt description).

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matt-gurney-only-one-reason-for-the-liberals-toothless-gun-law-they-know-lawful-firearm-owners-are-not-a-threat

 

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There seems to be a lot of this in Toronto. Perhaps delegating municipalities the authority to ban transporting knives would curtail it.

I know, pretty silly when you actually say it out loud eh? Know why? It's because everyone is familiar with knives.... the mere suggestion of it invites ridicule. And rightly so.

 Man in custody after life-threatening stabbing in Toronto's Moss Park neighbourhood

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41 minutes ago, Wolfhunter said:

There seems to be a lot of this in Toronto. Perhaps delegating municipalities the authority to ban transporting knives would curtail it.

I know, pretty silly when you actually say it out loud eh? Know why? It's because everyone is familiar with knives.... the mere suggestion of it invites ridicule. And rightly so.

 

Where have you been - this is already being done in London.

London Bans Knives

“No excuses,” Khan tweeted. “[T]here is never a reason to carry a knife. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law.”

His message came as London recorded more homicides than the comparatively-sized New York, a historical first. By the numbers, London’s suffered 50 homicides already this year, most of which have been stabbed. Why? ‘Cause guns are already pretty much outlawed in London so the murderous-minded need to find a different weapon.

Just goes to show what conservatives and Second Amendment advocates have been saying for some time: It’s not the gun, stupid.

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Autopsies revealed he had struck each of them on the head, with most likely a crow bar, and when they fell to the floor, he cut their throats,” the agreed statement of facts said.

A 24-year-old Markham, Ont. man who killed his mother, father, sister and grandmother inside their family home last summer apologized for his actions during a sentencing hearing on Monday morning, saying loved ones would have never seen this coming.

Had this guy used a gun......we would have had mass murder headlines and sockboy would have had a platform to ban handguns.

Stabbings seem to be going one for one with shootings, at least in Toronto anyway.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/i-am-sorry-markham-ont-man-apologizes-in-court-for-killing-four-family-members-last-summer-1.5161478

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Where have you been - this is already being done in London.

London Bans Knives

“No excuses,” Khan tweeted. “[T]here is never a reason to carry a knife. Anyone who does will be caught, and they will feel the full force of the law.”

His message came as London recorded more homicides than the comparatively-sized New York, a historical first. By the numbers, London’s suffered 50 homicides already this year, most of which have been stabbed. Why? ‘Cause guns are already pretty much outlawed in London so the murderous-minded need to find a different weapon.

Just goes to show what conservatives and Second Amendment advocates have been saying for some time: It’s not the gun, stupid.

Re Knives, so you are a Real chef, transporting the tools of your trade (Knives) to your new work place or a leather worker or a wood carver etc .??????

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10 hours ago, Kargokings said:

Re Knives, so you are a Real chef, transporting the tools of your trade (Knives) to your new work place or a leather worker or a wood carver etc .??????

To and from the authorized workplace (from the registered owners residence) via the shortest route with no intermediate stops. The knives must incorporate a blade guard system capable of being locked and the entire knife must be transported in a locked container.

Any breaches of this protocol results in weapons charges, a criminal record, the confiscation of every knife you own and an extended period in which you are banned from owning any knife of any description.

If it saves just one life it's worth it. As the mayor of London wisely attests, no one in town needs a knife.

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What’s happening in London is a result of their own immigration stupidity. I remember back a mere 20 years ago...one could walk around all day and other than keeping an eye out for pick-pockets it was relatively safe.

....Same for Paris

...And now the same for Toronto

 

GEE whizz...I wonder what’s changed :Scratch-Head: 

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It's a personal choice but I won't be traveling much anymore. My list of motorcycle no go cities is growing and the number of places I wouldn't go unarmed is growing. As a for instance, I used to do lots of diving in the southern Sinai, I wouldn't go back there now.

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