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Interesting article on how the drug cartels are getting their weapons from the US into Mexico and you have to wonder if the same applies to guns that move north from the US into Canada with the same ease since only a small percentage of commercial traffic from the US into Canada is searched.  

Defense chief Cresencio: focus at border is now on arms coming in more than drugs going out. Defense chief Cresencio: focus at border is now on arms coming in more than drugs going out.

Arms smuggling: army reveals how crooks get their guns across the border

 

Weapons arrive inside washing machines, gas tanks and even boxes of chocolate
Published on Wednesday, December 4, 2019

Guns and ammunition are smuggled into Mexico from the United States inside gas tanks, spare tires and bottles of soft drinks among other things, National Defense Secretary Luis Cresencio Sandoval revealed on Wednesday.

Speaking at the presidential press conference, the army chief said that the armed forces and custom officials have also detected weapons inside washing machines, televisions and even boxes of chocolates.

Guns are also often concealed in hidden compartments in vehicles, Cresencio said, adding that there have been cases in which gunrunners have attempted to pass weapons off as toys. He cited several specific cases in which illicit cargo has been seized.

At customs in Tijuana, cartridges were detected inside soda bottles, he said, while in San Emeterio, Sonora, 55,000 cartridges, 19 guns and 12 grenade launchers were found hidden in a semi-trailer.

At customs in Sonoyta, Sonora, weapons and cartridges were found under the seats of a bus that entered Mexico from the U.S., and weapons, magazines and ammunition were detected in the gas tank of a pickup truck, he said.

At Nogales, 320 kilometers to the east in the same state, weapons and ammunition have been detected inside car doors, while three guns were found inside a television at customs in Ojinaga, Chihuahua.

The army chief said that vehicles are selected randomly for inspection, explaining that checking all those that cross into Mexico from the U.S. is not possible because of the delays it would generate and the effect it would have on legal, perishable goods entering the country.

Cresencio said President López Obrador had instructed the armed forces to focus more on stopping weapons coming into Mexico than drugs bound for the United States.

“In this administration, the president instructed us to change the direction of inspections at our military security posts. Before all our military posts carried out inspections [of vehicles traveling] from south to north, we were looking to seize drugs, but the president instructed us to change,” he said.

In addition to weapons and ammunition, cash has also been seized since the change was made, Cresencio said.

While cars and trucks are most frequently used for the smuggling of both weapons and drugs, illicit goods are also transported by rail, the defense secretary said. All told, the military has destroyed almost 20,000 weapons that were seized in 26 states across the country this year, Cresencio said.

A 50-caliber rifle hidden under the hood of a car. A .50-caliber rifle hidden under the hood of a car.

López Obrador told reporters that the smuggling of guns and cash into Mexico will be discussed at meetings this week between government officials and United States Attorney General William Barr.

The Secretariat of Foreign Affairs said earlier this year that firearms from the United States are used in seven out of every 10 high-impact crimes committed in Mexico.

The president stressed on Wednesday that his government will not permit any operations similar to the “fast and furious” gunwalking scandal in which U.S. government officials allowed weapons to be smuggled into Mexico during the administrations of presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. The aim of the operation was to track the guns to cartel leaders and arrest them.

“The government will now allow any operation like the ‘fast and furious’ [scandal] because that, if you remember, was a flagrant violation of our sovereignty . . .Weapons were allowed to come in [to Mexico] in order to supposedly follow organized crime members but they lost track of those same weapons and it was later shown that they were used to commit crimes. The plan was a resounding failure. Those activities, those agreements will not be allowed,” López Obrador said.

“What we’re proposing is for there to be control of the exit of weapons and dollars on the United States side [of the border] . . . We need to cooperate to strengthen relations on the issues of drugs, migration and arms trafficking . . .” he said.

Barr’s visit to Mexico comes a month after U.S. President Donald Trump offered to help Mexico “wage war” on Mexican drug cartels and a week after he said the cartels will be designated as terrorist organizations.

López Obrador declined the offer of U.S. intervention while some experts dismissed the terrorist designation claim as election rhetoric.

Trump’s remarks were made following a spate of shocking cartel attacks including the massacre of nine members of a Mormon family who were both Mexican and U.S. citizens.

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22 hours ago, Marshall said:

you have to wonder if the same applies to guns that move north from the US into Canada with the same ease since only a small percentage of commercial traffic from the US into Canada is searched.  

Mexico is never used as an example by the anti-gun lobby even though they have pretty tight gun control laws, and there is a good reason..... it doesn't serve their model and actually stands as a model of failure.

 They prefer Japan, Australia, New Zealand and Britain..... all islands that don't share a border with the US.

Please refer to our previous discussion on wise, foolish, truth, tactics, political intent and rhetoric..... it all becomes clear and I would do the same were I fighting their battle for them.

Something you haven't heard much of yet is gun violence against women; statistically it's much less than men but it plays better this time of the year. If I were controlling their war room, you would be inundated with self serving stats in support of the cause..... expect it soon from the Coalition for Gun Control.

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2 hours ago, Wolfhunter said:

 

Something you haven't heard much of yet is gun violence against women; statistically it's much less than men but it plays better this time of the year. If I were controlling their war room, you would be inundated with self serving stats in support of the cause..... expect it soon from the Coalition for Gun Control.

The recent headlines would seem to heading that way

Dec 6, 2019 - READ MORE: Remembering the women killed in the École ... Keller, a professor at the University of Calgary who writes frequently about feminism. ... Why it's important to call the Montreal Massacre an attack on feminism.

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Proof that criminals can laugh at our justice system and cops will question their roles at protecting the public:

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It turns out shooting at police officers to avoid arrest is not necessarily attempted murder.

Nor will it automatically result in serious prison time.

This came to light Friday when a judge found Peter Aiken, 27, fired an illegal handgun five times at two Peel Regional Police officers in 2016 and imposed a sentence that could see the man free in a year.

Aiken was wounded by police. The officers were not injured.

While Aiken was convicted of weapons charges, including intentionally discharging a firearm, Justice Paul Currie acquitted him of two counts of attempted murder.....

For background, we have to cast our minds back to June, 8, 2016 when Peel officers responded to a 911 call for a domestic incident at a Brampton housing complex in the Williams Pkwy.- Hwy. 410 area.

“Two officers observed Aiken attempting to flee,” said Woolley. “After a very brief interaction with the officers, Aiken brandished an illegal handgun and began firing at both.”

They knew of Aiken’s “criminal history and court conditions” when he started to shoot.

“The officers fired back.”

 

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-outrage-over-sentence-handed-to-shooter-who-fired-at-cops#comments

(Apologies if this is old news.....would have thought this would have been in national media given the questionable ruling of the judge, but that might be embarrassing to the federal side of the gun control debate).

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And to illustrate how things are escalating in Toronto, a shoot out ensued following a routine traffic stop yesterday:

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York Regional Police Const. Laura Nicolle had told reporters on the scene earlier in the day that shots were fired at a police officer attempting to make a routine traffic stop with the suspect’s vehicle near Major Mackenzie Dr. and Bayview Ave. at around 10:30 a.m.

“There was an exchange of gunfire,” said Nicolle.

“The suspect pulled out a firearm and started to shoot at the officer and the officer did return fire. How many shots — I don’t have that information at this early stage. It is quite shocking that somebody would pull out a firearm and begin shooting in the middle of the day in a very busy crowded area.”

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/armed-standoff-in-richmond-hill-following-shocking-shooting

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And not all the shootings are located in Toronto, Calgary has been in the news as well...apparently one of our Ontario thugs was known to citizens there..

 

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By late Friday, Calgary police identified the shooting victim as Farah Hersi Handule, who was previously charged with murder himself by authorities in Ontario....

Ottawa homicide detectives had previously charged Handule with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of 20-year-old Hamzeh Serhan in 2017. He had since been on the run from authorities and was wanted on a nationwide warrant.

The deceased was also accused of a gunpoint home invasion in Toronto the year before, but those charges were withdrawn shortly before the case headed to trial. He was wanted on at least two other warrants.

Hhmmmmm....not exactly a law abiding kind of guy....so, why was he allowed to be on the streets?

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3 hours ago, st27 said:

so, why was he allowed to be on the streets?

We have to lower our standards of normal in Canada....after all, this is the same country that allows a person that BEHEADS an INNOCENT victim on a bus to now walk the streets a free man.

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Time to go back, if found guilty then execute the perps right away, no long time on death row.

US saw highest number of mass killings on record in 2019, database reveals

A database compiled by the Associated Press (AP), USA Today and Northeastern University recorded 41 incidents and a total of 211 deaths.

Mass killings are defined as four or more people being killed in the same incident, excluding the perpetrator.

Among the deadliest in 2019 were the killings of 12 people in Virginia Beach in May and 22 in El Paso in August.

Of the 41 cases in 2019, 33 involved firearms, researchers said. California had the highest number of mass killings per state, with eight.

The database has been tracking mass killings in the US since 2006, but research going back to the 1970s did not not reveal a year with more mass killings, AP reported. The year with the second-highest number of mass killings was 2006, with 38.

Though 2019 had the highest number of incidents, the death toll of 211 was eclipsed by the 224 people who died in mass killings 2017. That year saw the deadliest mass shooting in US history, when 59 people were gunned down at a festival in Las Vegas.

Many mass killings in the US fail to make headlines because they involve family disputes, drug deals or gang violence, and don't spill into public places, the researchers said.

Grey line Grey line

The number of mass killings in the US had risen despite the overall number of homicides going down, said James Densley, a criminologist and professor at Metropolitan State University in Minnesota.

"As a percentage of homicides, these mass killings are also accounting for more deaths," he told AP.

Prof Densley said he believed the spike was partly a consequence of an "angry and frustrated time" in US society, but he added that crimes tended to occur in waves.

"This seems to be the age of mass shootings," he said.

A guide to the weapons available in the US and the rate at which they fire

Gun ownership rights are enshrined in the second amendment of the US constitution, and the spike in mass shootings has done little to push US lawmakers towards gun control reforms.

In August, following deadly attacks in Dayton, Ohio, and El Paso, Texas, President Donald Trump said "serious discussions" would take place between congressional leaders on "meaningful" background checks for gun owners.

But Mr Trump quietly rowed back on that pledge, reportedly after a long phonecall with Wayne LaPierre, the chief executive of the National Rifle Association - a powerful lobby group which opposes gun control measures.

Speaking to reporters after the call, the president said the US had "very strong background checks right now", adding that mass shootings were a "mental problem"

Leading Democrats have called publicly for stricter gun control measures.

Earlier this month, presidential candidate and former US Vice-President Joe Biden used the seventh anniversary of the Sandy Hook school shooting to renew a call for tighter regulations. Mr Biden's plans include a ban on the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and mandatory background checks for all gun sales.

Another Democratic presidential hopeful, Elizabeth Warren, outlined plans earlier this year to reduce gun deaths by 80% with a mixture of legislation and executive action. Ms Warren has also called for stronger background checks, as well as the ability to revoke licences for gun dealers who break the law.

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Toronto news...Another report of an loaded handgun being seized during a traffic stop and a violent struggle resulted...the usual narcotics, possession, and assault charges were laid. And of course, fatality from a shooting and separately, a car was found with bullet holes in it.

Gun violence is daily, almost a non-event now. I realize the politicians are on Christmas holidays, but the lack of comments and grandstanding re handgun ban is noticeable.

Btw...two men got into a knife fight...both dying of stab wounds!

How things have changed in this city.

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55 minutes ago, st27 said:

Toronto news...Another report of an loaded handgun being seized during a traffic stop and a violent struggle resulted...the usual narcotics, possession, and assault charges were laid. And of course, fatality from a shooting and separately, a car was found with bullet holes in it.

Gun violence is almost a non-event now. I realize the politicians are on Christmas holidays, but the lack of comments and grandstanding re handgun ban is noticeable.

Btw...two men got into a knife fight...both dying of stab wounds!

How things have changed in this city.

Welcome to Leftism 😡

Toronto was the first city in Canada to declare itself a sanctuary city, with Toronto City Council voting 37–3 on February 22, 2013 to adopt a formal policy allowing undocumented migrants to access city services
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4 hours ago, Jaydee said:

Welcome to Leftism 😡

Toronto was the first city in Canada to declare itself a sanctuary city, with Toronto City Council voting 37–3 on February 22, 2013 to adopt a formal policy allowing undocumented migrants to access city services

 

Refugees and asylum seekers are occupying 36% of the shelter spacesin their case in hotel rooms or for 200 of them in the $1-million per month airy well-lit former North York Hydro building on Yonge St.“

meanwhile....

Hardcore homeless are being shoved 100 at a time into airless $2.5-million Sprung warehouses in Liberty Village or on Strachan Ave. where beds are so close together diseases and illnesses are rampant, as is theft.”

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/levy-street-sleepers-sign-of-decay-not-growth

 

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I am not a gun owner but I totally agree with this sentiment. Problem is, in Canada under the Left, they would probably send the shooter to jail for murder and pray for the bad guy.

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I agree HOWEVER.... As proven by countless videos on the internet and many news stories that never make the headlines... Good Guys with guns and the best intentions are incapable of acting responsibly with firearms.  I know that is a huge generalization but without proper training, which many in the US never get, discharging a firearm in public is only inviting trouble and injured or killed innocent bystanders.

I have also seem Thousands of examples where a firearm is brandished when no risk to human life is present.  The general public doesn't understand when a firearm is to be used.

Getting cut off on the highway does not require the discharge of a firearm.  Go figure.

Lethal force is only to be used when there is imminent risk to human life.  I see a lot of people out there that don't understand that.

 

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^In the Texas incident though the guy that shot the shooter was a trained security person who also trained others in the use of deadly force.

He was the church's head of security. Sad as it is that a church/school needs security.

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16 hours ago, mo32a said:

^In the Texas incident though the guy that shot the shooter was a trained security person who also trained others in the use of deadly force.

He was the church's head of security. Sad as it is that a church/school needs security.

Well thats a good thing because Joe Citizen with a gun is a crappy shot when under stress.

We have had this discussion before.

 

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A Mississauga trucker is facing charges in relation to approximately 200 kilograms of suspected methamphetamine that the Canada Border Services Agency found in his commercial vehicle at the Ambassador Bridge.

According to the CBSA, the seizure is the largest involving methamphetamine that the national agency has seen in seven years. CBSA estimates the street value of the haul at more than $25.5 million.

RCMP took custody of Mohamed Ahmed Abdirahman, 36, of Mississauga.

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https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/cbsa-seizes-200-kilos-of-suspected-methamphetamine-at-ambassador-bridge/wcm/96eeb7cd-5b9d-4614-a5a2-910405d601a6

 Police believe they were able to prevent countless doses of tainted drugs from ending up in the hands of British Columbians after making what they believe is one of the largest fentanyl seizures in Canadian history.

A joint investigation by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) and the RCMP that began more than two years ago resulted in the discovery of 13.7 kilograms of fentanyl and analogues, and the consequent 12-year prison sentence for a Richmond man.

The investigation began in July 2017, when CBSA identified “a suspicious importer” who was smuggling fentanyl into Canada, and linked him to seven previous fentanyl seizures totalling 3.5 kilograms.

The importer, identified as Jaroslaw Pawel Orzel, was having fentanyl sent from China to rented mailboxes across the Metro Vancouver region using courier services.”

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/staggering-amount-of-fentanyl-drug-bust-lands-richmond-man-in-prison

Do you think there is a link here between the drug trade and the recent increase in shootings??

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4 hours ago, st27 said:

Do you think there is a link here between the drug trade and the recent increase in shootings??

Good articles, thanks.

It’s not the inability to make the links, it’s the outright refusal to make them that worries me.

The trucking industry is now following the lead of the airline MBA crew with predictable results. You have TFA’s working for lower wages and creating downward pressure, they have less training, less experience and some have never even seen snow. Knowing nothing about the circumstances of this particular case, I will still assert that professional drivers aren't drug runners.

Toronto has a gang problem, it’s an ethnic gang problem, it’s fuelled by the drug trade, and turf wars are part of that equation. Hand guns and targeted shootings are part of the turf war. The increase in highway shootings is simply a function of reduced traffic enforcement assets (well advertised BTW) and the lack of video surveillance on the roads. 

Trump didn’t shoot down an airliner, Iran did.  

How does all of this go ignored? Until people can make the links in a rational manner, solutions will remain elusive.

 

 

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Shootings In Kansas City, Honolulu and San Antonio leave six dead

PUBLISHED MON, JAN 20 202010:12 AM EST
NBC NEWS
Yuliya Talmazan and Kurt Chirbas
 
 
 
 
KEY POINTS
  • A series of shootings across the country on Sunday claimed the lives of six people, including two police officers in Hawaii.
  • In Kansas City, Missouri, police said say at least two people were killed and 15 more were injured in a shooting outside a bar.
  • In San Antonio, Texas, an argument inside a club claimed the lives of two people and left five more injured Sunday night, police said.

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Here's a quick how goes it. The government is about to ban the sale of assault rifles in Canada but they need to actually call them something different since assault rifles are already banned in Canada... hence the name "military style."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-to-implement-gun-control-strategy-in-multistep-process-bill/

The law of unintended consequences still rules though, over the last couple months, sales of AR15s in Canada have exploded and most retailers are not only out of stock, they can't maintain new inventories longer than a few hours.... there are waiting lists. 

In particular, the Colt Canada version is highly sought after now. Consider the result, JT has sold more AR15s in Canada than any other retailer could have dreamed of. The Colt Canada variant retails at about $2400; now, take a moment and consider how much they have budgeted for the buyback.... then lets add some expensive optics to the platform as well.  Any child with a hand held calculator can see the folly of it.

Those who use New Zealand as a beacon of "how to do things right" should do a little research online and not be too eager to accept the government's position without inquiry. Returns are much lower than expected, more costly than expected and there is more opposition than expected. As a result, the country is now awash in illegal weapons and they have created an entire generation of new criminals.

Compare all of this with the mainstream media reports.... now, research how many gangster shootings in Toronto were undertaken with the AR15.

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NAFTA ratification, assault rifle ban among top priorities for Liberal government

BY JOAN BRYDEN THE CANADIAN PRESS
Posted January 21, 2020 4:19 am
Updated January 21, 2020 4:20 am
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks during a press conference in Ottawa on Saturday, Jan. 11, 2020. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks during a press conference in Ottawa on Saturday, Jan. 11, 2020. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Justin Tang

Ratifying the new North American Free Trade Agreement will be a top priority for the Trudeau government when Parliament resumes next week.

Legislation to ban military-style assault rifles will also be high on the agenda for the first extended sitting of Parliament since the Oct. 21 election reduced Justin Trudeau‘s Liberals to a minority.

The prime minister may flesh out the agenda more today when he wraps up a three-day cabinet retreat aimed at setting the government’s priorities and figuring out how to achieve them when the Liberals no longer hold a majority of seats in the House of Commons.

Every measure will require support from at least one major opposition party to pass; a defeat on matters of confidence, such as the coming budget, would topple the government.

The Liberals can probably rely on the support of the Conservatives to win ratification of the new NAFTA, despite the fact that the Tories have accused Trudeau of caving in to concessions demanded by U.S. President Donald Trump.

The NDP and the Bloc are likely to oppose NAFTA, but are expected to support efforts to strengthen gun control.

2:09Canada, U.S., Mexico finally sign revised NAFTA

 Canada, U.S., Mexico finally sign revised NAFTA

On Monday, government House leader Pablo Rodriguez said ratification of the new NAFTA is “an absolute priority” — a view echoed by Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, who was the lead minister throughout the tortuous negotiations to renew the continental trade pact and who remains responsible for seeing it across the finish line.

“The new NAFTA was ratified last week by the U.S. Senate, it was ratified before Christmas by Mexico. Now it’s Canada’s turn,” Freeland said.

“I think that is very important for certainty in the Canadian economy, very important for millions of Canadian workers, of Canadian businesses, of Canada families.”

Rodriguez called upon opposition parties to ratify the deal “as quickly as possible.”

“I think we should send a strong message that we are united in the ratification of this very, very important agreement,” he said.

The government did introduce a ratification bill last year, but did not forge ahead with it, preferring not to get ahead of the ratification process in the United States. The bill died when the election was called.

During the campaign, the Liberals promised a number of measures to stiffen gun control in Canada, including banning assault rifles and empowering municipalities to ban handguns if they so choose.

 

Public Safety Minister Bill Blair said Monday that the government will be able to move on some measures faster than others.

“The prohibition of the assault-style rifles I think is an important step that perhaps could be accomplished in the near term,” he said.

“The arrangements on any potential buy-back (of assault rifles) … will take a little bit more time because I think it’s really important that we get good value for the expenditure of taxpayers’ dollars and, at the same time, I’m very mindful that we’re dealing with law-abiding Canadians and I want to make sure that they’re treated fairly and respectfully.”

Blair said part of the discussions about the coming budget will involve how much money is available for programs for communities and kids aimed at preventing gun violence.

He noted that many municipalities went through “a very difficult summer” last year with a spate of shootings, and indicated that he’s hopeful new investments will be made before next summer.

 

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1 hour ago, Wolfhunter said:

Here's a quick how goes it. The government is about to ban the sale of assault rifles in Canada but they need to actually call them something different since assault rifles are already banned in Canada... hence the name "military style."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-to-implement-gun-control-strategy-in-multistep-process-bill/

The law of unintended consequences still rules though, over the last couple months, sales of AR15s in Canada have exploded and most retailers are not only out of stock, they can't maintain new inventories longer than a few hours.... there are waiting lists. 

In particular, the Colt Canada version is highly sought after now. Consider the result, JT has sold more AR15s in Canada than any other retailer could have dreamed of. The Colt Canada variant retails at about $2400; now, take a moment and consider how much they have budgeted for the buyback.... then lets add some expensive optics to the platform as well.  Any child with a hand held calculator can see the folly of it.

Those who use New Zealand as a beacon of "how to do things right" should do a little research online and not be too eager to accept the government's position without inquiry. Returns are much lower than expected, more costly than expected and there is more opposition than expected. As a result, the country is now awash in illegal weapons and they have created an entire generation of new criminals.

Compare all of this with the mainstream media reports.... now, research how many gangster shootings in Toronto were undertaken with the AR15.

Interestingly enough I can go out an buy a standard .308 hunting rifle.  Just a nondescript everyday hunting rifle.  Ban and all.  Fair enough.

Now I can go online and order some accessories for it.  A Stock, some plastic. a rail system, scope, and some other bits and pieces.  none of which add or change the performance of the base .308.  Still the same rifle.  Difference is that now it looks scary and looks like an assault rifle. BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME OLD .308 HUNTING RIFLE.

People don't get this.

If I go out and buy an old motorcycle.  Add some fresh cool paint, some LED Lights, a loud exhaust and some custom graphics.  Have I changed the performance of the base motorcycle?  No but now it looks different.  STILL THE SAME OLD MOTORCYCLE.

BTW.  That.308 mentioned above also fires the 7.62 mm NATO ammunition.  The very same bullets used by the military in NATO countries to Kill People.  The AR15 and sold in Canada uses a .556 round  which is actually smaller but still powerful.  the AR-15 has also NEVER seen combat with a Military organization. It is a sporting rifle.  But I guess we keep judging the book by its cover.

 

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