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Finally.....the talk is coming around to the real problem in Toronto wrt the shootings and it’s a gang thing:

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There are approximately 326 people that are charged with firearms offences that are out on bail right now,” the Chief said.

What possibly could go wrong? If it were polluted beaches there would at least be a sign erected.

In the case of Wednesday afternoon’s double shooting in Flemingdon Park, both victims “were on bail for gun offences,” said Saunders.

Not a surprise.

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/one-dead-another-wounded-as-bullets-fly-in-east-york

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2 hours ago, st27 said:

Finally.....the talk is coming around to the real problem in Toronto wrt the shootings and it’s a gang thing

It won't last, resisting the narrative is futile because facts and experience don't matter.... only voting day counts. 

Today at the gym, the only stair master available was under a TV with CNN on it. Now that Robert Mueller has made Joe Biden look intelligent and articulate, CNN has moved on from Russian collusion to white supremacy. Today's byline was "AMERICA UNDER ATTACK" "TRUMP IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST."

I'm going up on the roof to stare at the sun for a while....

 

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20 minutes ago, Wolfhunter said:

Today at the gym, the only stair master available was under a TV with CNN on it. Now that Robert Mueller has made Joe Biden look intelligent and articulate, CNN has moved on from Russian collusion to white supremacy. Today's byline was "AMERICA UNDER ATTACK" "TRUMP IS A WHITE SUPREMACIST."

 

 

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3 hours ago, st27 said:

Finally.....the talk is coming around to the real problem in Toronto wrt the shootings and it’s a gang thing:

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/one-dead-another-wounded-as-bullets-fly-in-east-york

But there are still folks with their heads (up their....) in the sand  and calling for a hand gun ban thinking that the bad guys will surrender their weapons.  

Toronto mayor says city-wide handgun ban would be enough

Toronto's mayor is softening his call for a national handgun ban in hope of getting a city-wide ban sooner. 

John Tory changes tune after more than a year of calling for national ban

Elise von Scheel · CBC News · Posted: Aug 10, 2019 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 6 hours ago

Toronto's mayor is softening his call for a national handgun ban in hope of getting a city-wide ban sooner. 

For more than a year John Tory has been calling for national restrictions on handguns but, after getting mixed reactions, told CBC Radio's The House he's willing to reconsider.

"If they just did it in Toronto I'd be happy with that," he said on Saturday, one week after a spate of violence that saw 17 people shot in 14 separate incidents across Toronto over the Civic Holiday long weekend.

Tory indicated a local ban might be more politically palatable. 

The Liberal government has been looking into banning handguns for a year, but earlier this week their point man on the portfolio wouldn't commit to one. 

Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction Minister Bill Blair admitted more measures must be taken to choke the supply and demand for illegal firearms, but stopped short of endorsing a ban.

"There's no one simple solution. There's a thousand things we must do and we must do them all well," Blair said at a news conference on Thursday. 

But his colleague, Toronto-area MP Adam Vaughn, went a step further, predicting a ban will be among the Liberals' election promises this fall. 

"I think we'll see it in the platform. I think we'll prosecute the argument with Canadians through an election. We'll get a mandate to act and you'll see that as part of a comprehensive approach," Vaughan said on The House.

The cost of implementing a handgun ban has been estimated at upward of $2 billion. Their use in crimes is growing. Data from Statistics Canada shows handguns were used in 59 per cent of all violent gun crimes in 2017, up 42 per cent from 2013. 

But there are mixed feelings among Canadians about prohibiting the weapons. 

Government consultations last October showed — of the 134,917 questionnaires completed online — 81 per cent of respondents said nothing more should be done to limit access to handguns. 

 
The gun violence in Toronto during the Civic Holiday long weekend saw 17 people shot during 14 separate incidents. 2:03

Though the Conservatives agree measures must be taken to stop gun violence, in their view, a handgun ban isn't the answer.

"There's no evidence to show that this is going to work," MP Michelle Rempel said.

Most illegal guns in Canada used to be smuggled from the U.S., but that seems to be changing. According to Toronto police, a growing number of guns are bought legally in Canada and resold on the black market, or made here illegally.

A ban likely wouldn't be able to target that problem specifically. A briefing note on the consultations concluded a ban would mostly affect collectors and sport shooters — and would only indirectly affect the illegal market by limiting access to divert or steal the weapons. 

While the Conservatives criticize the Liberals for going after legal firearms owners, the NDP questions why the Liberals didn't act on handguns sooner. 

It's a contentious political debate that divides MPs and the public across the spectrum, but Tory says it's time to put partisanship aside and focus on policy — though he doesn't rule out the potential for this issue to shake up the federal election in his city. 

"You don't want it to become political, but at the same time we have elections so people can make choices on policy and as long as it's a thoughtful discussion I'm all in favour," he said. 

"If it makes one bit of difference in terms of reducing these shootings and in particular reducing the loss of life and the trauma caused by handguns, why wouldn't you take the step?"

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POP quiz:

In Toronto you have a turf war playing out between rival ethnic gangs in a part of town with definable geographic borders. As a politician attempting to restore order and rid the community of gun toting thugs, your best course of action is to:

a. Suspend all street checks and disband the unit specifically tasked with gang interdiction;

b. Set lenient bale conditions that allow gang members to reoffend while awaiting trial for a previous weapons charge;

c. Institute a ban that prevents competitive, law abiding IPSC shooters in PEI from owning guns; 

d. Brand Trump and Schear white supremacists and blame them for the carnage;

e. All of the above

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too bad they didn't put the shooter out of his misery before the police arrived.

One man hurt in Norway mosque shooting, suspect arrested

Gunman carrying multiple weapons was overpowered by members of the mosque before police arrived, witness says.

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One man hurt in Norway mosque shooting, suspect arrested
A Norwegian riot policeman stands in front of the al-Noor islamic center mosque [AFP]

A gunman armed with multiple weapons has opened fire in a mosque near the Norwegian capital, Oslo, wounding one person before being overpowered by worshippers, police and witnesses said.

The suspected shooter at the al-Noor Islamic Centre in the Baerum district was "a young white man" who appeared to have acted alone, police said on Saturday.

Police were alerted to the shooting shortly after 1400 GMT. 

They first reported that the victim had been shot, but later said one person had sustained "minor injuries" and that it was unclear if they were gunshot wounds.

The victim was a 75-year-old member of the congregation, mosque director Irfan Mushtaq told TV2.

Mushtaq said he had arrived at the scene shortly after being alerted about the gunman, and had gone to the back of the building while waiting for police to arrive.

"The man carried two shotgun-like weapons and a pistol. He broke through a glass door and fired shots," Mushtaq said, adding that the shooter wore body armour and a helmet.

He was overpowered by members of the mosque before police arrived, the mosque director said.

Prime Minister Erna Solberg expressed her sympathy with those who had been present at the mosque or were affected. 

"It should be safe to go to the mosque, church or other worship places," she said in a statement, adding it was too early to speculate over a possible motive.

Police said they were assessing whether it would be necessary to step up security at mosques on Sunday, the start of the Muslim Eid al-Adha holiday.

The al-Noor Islamic Centre earlier this year implemented extra security measures following the massacre of more than 50 people at two New Zealand mosques by a self-described white supremacist.

Norway was the scene of one of the worst-ever attacks by supporters of the far-right in July 2011, when 77 people were killed by Anders Behring Breivik.

Breivik said he was motivated by his hatred of multiculturalism, and detonated a massive bomb and then opened fire on a gathering of the Labour Party's youth wing on the island of Utoya. 

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The question for Liberals, what did you think was going to happen? Or put another way, what other possible outcome was there?

https://torontosun.com/news/crime/accused-gun-toters-freed-on-bail-despite-prior-records-and-weapon-bans

Here they respond in the only way they know how (CNN babble speak):

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/blaming-recent-toronto-gun-violence-on-lenient-bail-system-utter-nonsense-lawyer

Pop quiz:

You are a politician in the GTA. The media has just released the fact that 326 gang members have been granted bail on weapons chargers and the public is concerned. Your best course of action is to:

  1. Limit public statements on the bail issue to “all options are on the table;”
  2. Retain a prominent lawyer to pronounce the situation as “utter nonsense;”
  3. Ensure that talking points stress GUN VIOLENCE (not gang violence);
  4. Publicly out Doug Ford and Andrew Schear as white supremacists and blame them; or
  5. All of the above
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Well in the US where they also have interest in Guns, a Presidential contender has come up with a fix for gun control. So I guess only more

affluent killers will be able to afford guns.  main-qimg-c662b8d06f922494df83b93e3ee76082.webp

 

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Warren gun-control plan – higher taxes on firearms, bullets

Would also prohibit anyone convicted of a 'hate crime' from owning a gun

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(CNBC) Presidential contender Elizabeth Warren on Saturday unveiled her plan to combat gun violence, including proposals to triple the tax applied to firearm sales and raise the tax on ammunition even more dramatically.


Read more at https://www.wnd.com/2019/08/warren-gun-control-plan-higher-taxes-on-firearms-bullets/#Ir4kbzPTMjWydlK1.99

 

 

 

 

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Warren gun-control plan – higher taxes on firearms, bullets

 

Typical politician:  TAX it higher.

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While Trudeau and Vaughan talk about housing and education to fix Toronto’s crime problems (the gun is really just a tool of the trade), here are a few examples of reality:

In the wake of Chief Mark Saunders citing 326 such cases on Friday, the Sun found several troubling cases of convicts who were snared by police and then let go by judges.

Anderson, now 21, was freed in 2017 from a two-year less a day prison sentence for possessing a loaded prohibited or restricted gun. He was living under parole conditions and was under a weapons ban while serving three years probation.Despite being charged with 22 offences —  including gun, dangerous driving and assault police charges — and facing an apparently “overwhelming case,” Anderson was freed on bail with his mentally-ill brother as his surety by Justice Joseph Bovard 17 days later.

 

 

In another case, Maya Ahmed was celebrating his newfound freedom with gang buddies at a condo on Dan Leckie Way — near Lake Shore Blvd. W. and Bathurst St. — on July 17, 2018.

Police were tipped off that a man named Ahmed allegedly had an illegal handgun at the Airbnb address. Maya Ahmed had been freed on statutory release five days earlier.

The now 27-year-old was still serving a 31-month sentence for trafficking drugs and five counts of failing to comply with a recognizance (bail) order. One of his bail conditions was to “have no contact with people you know or have reason to believe is involved in criminal activity.”

“You were involved in drug trafficking … you have been immersed in drug subculture and are noted to be an active gang affiliate. Any return to these associations will increase your risk to re-offend,” his  parole conditions stated

 

In yet another disturbing case, Javell Jackson was charged with possession of a firearm and breaching a firearm prohibition in June 2018 when he was allegedly caught with a gun while driving in Regent Park — barely a year after being freed from prison for shooting a man in 2013.

His gun charges were stayed two weeks ago because of the unavailability of police witnesses, but he was already on bail again a month earlier.

Jackson received house arrest on $105,000 bail while he lived with his girlfriend, Soleil Gomes, and her father in July 2018.

 

https://torontosun.com/news/crime/accused-gun-toters-freed-on-bail-despite-prior-records-and-weapon-bans

 

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Ditch hug-a-thug approach when dealing with gun crime

 

Make no mistake about it, when it comes to dealing with Toronto’s gun crime problem, the Trudeau Liberals are more hug-a-thug than boots-on-the-ground types.

The feds joined with the city and province in announcing new multi-million-dollar measures to deal with the spate of gun violence that has plagued Toronto of late and the statements from each level of government really show where their priorities are.

“These additional resources for our Toronto Police Service will fund an even more intensive focus on those responsible for inflicting gun violence on our neighbourhoods as well as increasing police presence to keep communities safe,” said Mayor John Tory.

That’s a great statement from the mayor! He wants to focus on the crime problem.

The province chimed in via a statement from Ontario’s Solicitor General Sylvia Jones, saying funding from the Ford government will be used to “to put boots on the ground where they are needed most. Mayor Tory, Chief Saunders, and most importantly, the brave men and women of the Toronto Police Service, have been fighting an important fight. Our government stands with them.”  

 

The province also hits the nail on the head; they want to fund more cops in problem neighbourhoods.

And the federal government?

They are concerned about ensuring more social housing.

I’m not joking.

“We will continue to support prevention, gang exit and enforcement initiatives, while addressing social and economic issues like housing and employment to create opportunities for young Canadians,” said Bill Blair, the minister in charge of border security.

Liberal MP Adam Vaughan spent a good part of the day telling the media that in addition to banning handgun ownership, the Liberals want to deal with gun violence by investing in daycare spaces, job programs for youth and more housing programs.

Now I’m not belittling the idea that dealing with social issues is part of the long-term solution, but this was an announcement about the recent spike in gun violence. To quote from the city’s news release, they sought additional resources to ensure, “police officers have the resources they need to keep neighbourhoods safe.”

We have a problem with gun crime now and as far as I can see, the Liberals want to deal with the gun part but not the crime part. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked about dealing with the gun violence while at an announcement on another matter in Toronto’s Parkdale neighbourhood.

“We have, as a government, lived up to the commitments we made in the 2015 election on strengthening gun control and bringing in measures like enhanced background checks that we know keep our communities safer,” Trudeau said.

That may sound good but background checks, which I have no problem with, look at those that are trying to buy legal guns. Criminals aren’t applying for licences and if they are, the system is set up to catch them.

What are the Trudeau Liberals offering to deal with the crime aspect of the problem?

It literally amounts to hug-a-thug. Take guns away from people not breaking the law and spend more on social programs.

I’m sorry, that is not what we need right now.

We need to stop bail for those facing gun charges, especially repeat offenders. We need to enforce bail and parole conditions on those that do get bail or parole.

Michael Lacy, president of the Criminal Lawyers Association, called it “utter nonsense” that bail is an issue and part of the problem. My colleague Sam Pazzano showed otherwise in a story that detailed several men with gun convictions who caused more violence while out on bail.

We could point to other problems with courts being lenient like the case of Christoper Husbands, the man behind the Eaton Centre shooting. He was on bail and house arrest for gun charges, among others, when he went on a shooting spree, killing two men and wounding others in the food court in 2012.

Liberals love to describe tough-on-crime measures as simplistic. I’d say the same thing about their hug-a-thug approach. We need to deal with people currently committing crimes, not just hope to prevent future criminals.

blilley@postmedia.com

 
 
 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-ditch-hug-a-thug-approach-when-dealing-with-gun-crime

 

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We are now paying the price for not paying the price. There was always a cost and over the course of many years it has been discussed on this forum at some length.

People who have lived, worked or served in parts of the world well off the vacation circuit have expressed concerns (right here) and have asked if the people screaming racist (and such) were actually willing to pay the cost of integrating people from completely different cultures into the Canadian landscape…. it can be done, but there is a cost. In short, the suggestion has always been, if we are going to do it, we should do it right because it is in everyone’s best longterm interests.

Some folks arrived here with an inherent (and perfectly logical) distrust of government, police and the military. There are also cultural differences like single mothers having low status in their own countries (below that of their sons) and, in the fullness of time, having a difficult time keeping their (now grown up) sons out of gangs. BTW, street gangs are also a perfectly logical reaction from people who distrust the government and police. Throw in the drug trade and easy access to weapons from the US and the fact that we are where we are should surprise no one.

The solution now has more to do with intelligence gathering, enforcement and boots on the ground than it need have. Street checks need not be considered racist either. If we are looking for violent white supremacists, stopping elderly black women is just silly. And, if elderly white women start bombing feminine hygiene aisles at drugstores checking children in playgrounds for explosive residue is equally silly. The idea of cause and effect and threat evaluation seems to be lacking across the board.  

So again I will ask, are you willing to pay the price? In some respects the question is rhetorical, I submit that you (we and us together) already are. BTW, the folks on this forum who made most of the accusations of racism and xenophobia are now noticeably absent. I bet they still can't say gang violence and will insist on identifying the problem as "gun violence."   

As if on cue.... how are so many oblivious to the obvious?

 https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-retired-senior-toronto-cop-blasts-chief-calls-for-street-checks

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/levy-weve-become-a-city-of-enablers

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And how much of the increased gang violence is a turf war over “new business” due our governments recent decriminalization of marijuana.......filling a demand that can’t be met by overpriced legal storefronts???

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11 hours ago, st27 said:

And how much of the increased gang violence is a turf war over “new business” due our governments recent decriminalization of marijuana.......filling a demand that can’t be met by overpriced legal storefronts???

I have no numbers but I suspect the turf wars are more about the higher end drugs and other illegal activities .  

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58 minutes ago, Marshall said:

I have no numbers but I suspect the turf wars are more about the higher end drugs and other illegal activities .  

Actually I think Trudeau becoming the biggest drug dealer in the country has spurred their business to heights unimaginable.  The legal price is so high, customers are flocking to the street to buy and since it’s now legal to own the cops won’t bother you for simple possession. As more of the general public get gradually addicted, the more customers there will be. It’s a bloody dream come true for the illegal market....They now have the government doing free advertising for their product.

Weed prices soar since legalization, illegal pot selling for half the price: StatCan

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/weed-prices-soar-since-legalization-illegal-pot-selling-for-half-the-price-statcan-1.4380012

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1 hour ago, Jaydee said:

The legal price is so high, customers are flocking to the street to buy and since it’s now legal to own the cops won’t bother you for simple possession.

It's a page taken right out of the "what did you think was going to happen" file and the exact opposite of what activists tried to sell as one of the benefits of legalization. 

IMO, organized gangs are generally more interested in higher end, more profitable drugs with a higher value (per kilo) and gun importation. I'm guessing (but don't know) that the old cigarette smuggling routes are being used to import firearms now (many of them ghost guns) from the US in a  boating by night operation. BTW, ghost guns where previously counted as domestically acquired in order to pad the numbers for JT... I bet they still are. All of the hundreds of weapons that were lost by or stolen from police services across the country were also counted as domestically sourced and thrown at the feet of registered owners. Cool eh? 

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'Naive': Police chiefs say handgun ban wouldn't stop flow of weapons into Canada© Provided by Canadian Press Enterprises Inc

CALGARY — The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police won't be supporting a call for a ban on handguns despite concerns about gun violence in a number of major cities including Toronto.

 

Vancouver police Chief Adam Palmer, who heads the organization, says Canada already has strong firearms regulations and no other law is required.

Toronto Mayor John Tory is asking the federal government for a handgun ban and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he will consider additional gun-control measures.

There were 14 separate shootings recorded in Toronto over the August long weekend alone.

almer says in the majority of cases involving gun violence, the handguns being used are already illegal and it makes no sense to ban something that is already prohibited.

"In every single case there are already offences for that. They're already breaking the law and the criminal law in Canada addresses all of those circumstances," Palmer said Wednesday at the conclusion of the association's annual conference.

"The firearms laws in Canada are actually very good right now. They're very strict."

The prime minister has highlighted recently passed gun-control legislation that extends the scope of background checks and strengthens record-keeping requirements for gun retailers.

Earlier this week, he said Canadians will learn more about Liberal plans for gun control during the upcoming campaign.

"I very much look forward to the election campaign in which we will be able to share with Canadians our vision for how to keep Canadians safer,'' Trudeau said.

"That involves, yes, strengthening gun control but it also involves investments that ... are so deeply needed in community infrastructure.''

Palmer suggested that handguns would still be around, even with a ban, because of Canada's proximity to the United States.

"People can't be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling," he said.

"There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada," said Palmer. "Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.

The association also discussed harassment and bullying in the workplace and the importance of making sure there are mental- health supports for those in policing.

"We have had suicides in Canada. I've had an officer die by suicide in my own department this year. It's a very terrible thing to go through for the police service and there have been other services that have gone through this across Canada as well.

"They're dealing with sexual assaults and child abuse, car chases, people with guns, people who have been shot and stabbed, exposure to blood and people spitting on them, swearing at them, assaulting them and they come back the next day and do it all over again."

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and here it goes again.

August 14, 2019 3:19 pm
Updated: August 14, 2019 7:39 pm

6 police officers wounded in Philadelphia active shooting; cops fear hostage situation

By Kerri Breen and Jesse Ferreras Global News
 

Six police officers have been shot after a suspect opened fire in Philadelphia on Wednesday afternoon, a police spokesperson said.

Sgt. Eric Gripp, who is with the public affairs unit, said on Twitter that the shooting remained active as of 8 p.m. ET.

The suspect is believed to be armed and barricaded inside a row house in the Nicetown-Tioga area, specifically at 3700 15th Street, CNN reported — people are advised to avoid the area.

Two police officers previously inside were “safely evacuated” by SWAT personnel, Gripp tweeted at around 9:30 p.m. ET.

WATCH: Police in Philadelphia say they’ve tried to establish a connection with a man who’s alleged to have shot and wounded six police officers

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The shooting began following a drug raid at a home.

Philadelphia police Commissioner Richard Ross said the department fears a “hostage situation.”

“We are trying to talk to this male, trying to let him know he can end this peacefully now,” he said at a news conference.

“We called him multiple times, he has picked up the phone a couple of times but he hasn’t answered.”

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This is not unlike inaction on climate change (for those so inclined). We are galvanized into inaction by the inability to articulate the problem.... please allow me. Toronto doesn't have a gun problem, it has a gang problem, more specifically, it has an ethnic gang problem and those gangs are embroiled in turf war of retaliatory attrition. 

Before any meaningful discussion can actually take place we need to collectively understand the nature of the problem. It's a bit late now to try and fix the street gang problem with infrastructure (both JT's have arrived on the scene a bit late), that opportunity was squandered years ago and those who considered it a necessary cost of doing business were branded racists, remember? An entire generation of gangbangers has now grown up without that "infrastructure" in place and is now mentoring and indoctrinating the next one. Only police intelligence, and boots on the ground enforcement will break the cycle and only the willingness to pay the price will solve the problem. Just as the "racist xenophobes" predicted years ago, failure to pay the price has its own cost and even the mainstream media are beginning to see the logic in articulating the problem with a degree of clarity....

 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/matt-gurney-toronto-doesnt-have-a-gun-control-problem

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-no-one-should-be-impressed-by-calls-for-a-handgun-ban

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1 hour ago, Wolfhunter said:

Just as the "racist xenophobes" predicted years ago, failure to pay the price has its own cost and even the mainstream media are beginning to see the logic in articulating the problem with a degree of clarity....

https://medium.com/the-politicalists/karl-popper-john-rawls-the-paradox-of-tolerance-f7d9a74a5a86

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Unfortunately, the definition of intolerance has morphed to the point that now the most tolerant of people (those open to actually hearing deserting voices) are deemed to be the ones who are intolerant. In other words, the definitions have been weaponized and dumbed down to the point of irrelevance where Nazis and white supremacists lurk behind every tree... even JT and Nancy have been accused of racism and Schear of being a white supremacist. These allegations are not only ridiculous on their merits, they serve to degrade the very definition of the definition and detract from the horror of actually encountering the real thing in the real world. Same goes for the true meaning of genocide; thanks to JT, Canada has joined the ranks of a very small club and lost all credibility to comment on human rights in a global community (and at a time) when enhancing them is front and centre on the world stage..... a bizarre turn of events for the notion that "Canada is back" IMO. 

Those who had lived, worked or served in some of the countries of origin and had a passing awareness of the cultural differences were branded as racist for suggesting that failing to address those differences could lead to future problems. Ironically, leaving refugees to "fend for themselves," without the infrastructure needed to transition to the new reality  of living in Canada is my personal definition of racism. I guess perspective is everything.

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It is far easier to take the guns away from the law abiding citizen and make it look like you are doing something about the problem than it is to actually take the guns away from the criminals and actually do something to fix the problem.

easy is easy thats why they do it that way.

 

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In addition to the guns/murder problem, Toronto is moving down a slippery slope with safe injection sites. Neighbourhoods are facing serious problems with the related drug dealing, prostitution, defecation, and aggressive behaviour of the “patients”. No one at city council will admit there is a problem..residents who don’t feeling safe walking in their neighbourhoods are labellied NIMBYs.

Here is what happened in Seattle, while trying to do the “right” thing. At the 19:00, and at 31:00.  sound familiar?

 

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California hotel employee 'prevents mass shooting'

weapons seized from Montoya's homeImage copyright Long Beach Police Department Image caption Police seized weapons including an assault rifle

California police say a hotel worker may have prevented a mass shooting after the worker reported that a disgruntled colleague had threatened to shoot staff and guests.

Acting on the tip-off, officers arrested a 37-year-old man who was found to have high-powered weapons and ammunition at his Los Angeles home.

It comes amid a wider FBI effort to prevent such shootings.

That followed attacks in El Paso and Dayton that killed 31 people.

Since then US authorities say they have foiled a series of alleged plots to carry out attacks, some of which would have targeted minority groups.

The FBI has reportedly instructed its field offices to conduct threat assessments and has also urged the public to report threats or suspicious activity.

What happened in California?

Rodolfo Montoya made the threat to someone he worked with at a Marriott hotel near Long Beach airport, Long Beach Police Chief Robert Luna said.

"Thank God that employee decided to bring that information forward," he told reporters.

Police said they seized multiple firearms including an assault rifle, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and tactical gear from his home in Huntington Beach. The assault rifle and high-capacity magazines were illegal in California, a statement said.

Early investigations revealed that Mr Montoya was upset over "human resource issues", police said.

He had "clear plans, intent and the means to carry out an act of violence that may have resulted in a mass casualty incident," Chief Luna said.

What other alleged plots have been foiled?

On Tuesday a man was jailed in Seattle, Washington, after the FBI said he threatened to kill Hispanics in the Miami area. Eric Lin, 35, sent a message to a Hispanic woman threatening her and her family. He also expressed support for Adolf Hitler, said he believed President Trump would "launch a racial war and crusade" and called for Hispanics, black people and members of other ethnic groups to be killed or sent to concentration camps.

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Also on Tuesday a truck driver was arrested in Tennessee after telling a friend he was considering carrying out a mass shooting at a church in Memphis. Thomas McVicker, 38, had made "credible threats", the FBI said. His mother reportedly told the FBI he owned a handgun, used cocaine and methamphetamine and was being treated for schizophrenia.

In Ohio a 20-year-old man was arrested last Friday for posting threats against a Jewish community centre. James Reardon, 20, posted a video on Instagram of a man firing a gun with a caption identifying the centre in Youngstown, north of Pittsburgh. He denies menacing and harassment charges.

james reardonImage copyright EPA Image caption James Reardon was arrested for threats against a Jewish centre in Ohio

In Florida, 25-year-old Tristan Scott Wix was arrested last Friday after sending text messages saying he was going to commit a mass shooting to his ex-girlfriend, who showed them to police. "A good 100 kills would be nice," one of the messages reportedly read. Police said they found a hunting rifle and 400 rounds of ammunition at his home.

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In Connecticut, 22-year-old Brandon Wagshol was arrested last Thursday after a tip-off from a member of the public who said he was trying to buy high-capacity rifle magazines. Authorities said he had weapons and tactical gear and had expressed the intention to carry out an attack on Facebook.

On 8 August police in Nevada arrested Conor Climo, 23, and said he had bomb making materials at his Las Vegas home. He had discussed attacking a synagogue and a bar he believed catered to the LGBTQ community during encrypted online chats with people who identified with a white supremacist organisation, the Justice Department said.

A total of 28 people are reported to have been arrested for making threats to carry out mass attacks since the 4 August shooting in Dayton, Ohio, which killed nine, and the 3 August shooting in El Paso, Texas, which targeted Hispanics and killed 22 people.

Following those shootings, the FBI said it was concerned that "domestic violent extremists" would be inspired to carry out copycat attacks and asked Americans to report "any suspicious activity that is observed either in person or online".

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