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Since before guns were even invented the human race has found ways to inflict pain and death on other humans.  Rocks, sticks, spears, swords, arrows, maces, knives.... The list goes on.  Did anyone ever ban any of them? there are some restrictions in place in varying laws around the world but I am not sure of an outright ban.

As the human race has advanced we have found new and better more efficient methods of killing one another and if all guns are banned or even eliminated we can always fall back to the good old rock.  you can't ban those.

 

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As Blair gets ready to make a major policy announcement, you can bet it won’t address the real issues: 

“According to the Six Nations source, one man may be behind it all. For legal reasons, the Sun is not naming the man.

But he is well known for having a stranglehold on drug trafficking on the reserve. Toss in prostitution and weapons smuggling and the man is a force to be reckoned with.”

https://torontosun.com/news/national/five-unsolved-murders-on-six-nations-and-no-closure

Between the Six Nations at Brantford and the Mohawks at Akwasasne, and the CBSAs inability to pursue cars that run the crossing without stopping.......the problem of guns and criminals will continue unabated.

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2 hours ago, st27 said:

Between the Six Nations at Brantford and the Mohawks at Akwasasne, and the CBSAs inability to pursue cars that run the crossing without stopping.......the problem of guns and criminals will continue unabated.

Careful now, you are starting to sound like me....

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1 hour ago, Wolfhunter said:

Careful now, you are starting to sound like me....

he's not wrong, nor are you

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The accompanying video lays out the background of the “crisis” (for some communities) facing the “country” (Toronto) and points the blame directly where it belongs. And as I sit here, another (targeted) shooting in Toronto at a gas station..... and a handgun was found in the vehicle beside the victim ( I doubt it was found in a locked case, with a trigger lock, in the trunk or in a concealed location).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a18oUzzUuJk

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From the "what did you think was going to happen" file.

Is looking around corners and anticipating the law of unintended consequences now a lost art and did Liberals think that Conservatives were not capable of the same tactics and logic? If history was actually taught in school, most people would be thinking of Rome right now.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6011998581001/#sp=show-clips

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I'm losing count,  between 2008 and 2011 (ATIP), the count was 428 and here we are 8 years later .... far too much carelessness on the part of police forces in Canada. Guess what would happen if you or I did exactly the same thing. This is now a "domestically sourced crime gun" and will be added to the statistics as such and those statistics will be used against...... who?

https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/news/local/pistol-stolen-from-mounties-personal-car-in-halifax-291379/

And far too many gangster stories. I have been watching to see how many competitive shooters and olympians  make the headlines, still waiting... . 

 https://www.thespec.com/news-story/9217838-victim-of-fatal-shooting-in-mississauga-plaza-a-member-of-hells-angels/

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Another domestically sourced crime gun that will be used as a statistic against me (and others like me). The weapons lost by police forces in Canada every year blows the back doors off any and all sentiments about "straw purchasers" by orders of magnitude. By ATIP, from 2016 to the end of 2017, 228 police weapons were lost or stolen by police services in Canada. Between 2008 and 2011 the number was 428. Statistically, all those are considered domestically sourced crime guns and blamed on registered owners.  

Imagine if I stopped off at the gym (with a loaded weapon locked up in my car) while returning from the range. You and I would be charged and lose everything. BTW, with the exception of tactical team members, police officers are not the weapon handling experts most people assume them to be.

So, in the last 10 years (say 2008 to 2018) what percentage of domestically sourced crime guns were actually lost by or stolen from police forces. I don't have the answer but I bet it would surprise everyone.... except the government and police forces who knowingly misrepresent the truth.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/unmarked-rcmp-vehicle-recovered-by-calgary-police-1.4334718

Other examples (over the years) abound:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-weapons-charges-pleas-rcmp-officer-jeffrey-gillis-1.3721609

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As they always have said, weapons do not kill people, people using weapons do.

As to the terrorist, we seem to believe that they can be cured / rehabilitated...…. well IMO they are no different that other rabid animals and should be put down...….

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LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS NOT THE PROBLEM

 

  • Calgary Sun
  • 17 Mar 2019
  • LORNE GUNTER lgunter@postmedia.com @sunlornegunter
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According to Statistics Canada, back in 1991 about 1,100 Canadians killed themselves by hanging every year. Another 1,000 shot themselves dead. By 2018, about 2,000 hanged themselves, while fewer than 600 committed suicide by firearm.

But despite the fact that hanging deaths have doubled and firearms suicides have fallen by almost half, you never hear anyone call for twine control or a longrope registry. The “experts” and politicians who push for greater gun control (and who claim their only motive is public safety), seem to have very little interest in facts.

Most years, in the whole country, there are between 150 and 200 murders each committed with guns and knives. Some years, guns slightly exceed knives as the murder weapon of choice. Most years stabbing murders are more numerous.

Yet you never hear a Liberal politician demand every home chef be forced to hand over his or her paring knives and potato peelers.

Still, federal Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale, Bill Blair, the minister of Border Security and Organized Crime Reduction, and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau continue to hint at a ban on handguns and further restrictions on rifles and shotguns before this fall’s general election.

(I actually think the SNC-Lavalin scandal has made some new form of legislated gun control more likely. The allegations that the Trudeau government may have attempted to subvert Canada’s criminal justice system have begun to eat into core Liberal support. What better way to re-energize the Liberal base than to whip up the “progressive” passion for disarming law-abiding citizens.)

But to justify singling out law-abiding gun owners as the prime target of its anticrime strategy, a government has to be able to blame legit owners somehow.

“Aha!,” the Liberal lights pop on. “We’ll claim law-abiding gun owners are now the No. 1 source for crime guns in Canada!”

And that is just what the governing party has been doing since the tragic shootings in Toronto’s trendy Danforth neighbourhood last summer — insisting that legit owners are really gun traffickers in disguise.

It’s true that in one year, three years ago, Toronto police seized more than 500 firearms. The geographic origins of nearly two-thirds could not be determined. However, Toronto police claimed that of the 200 or so they could pinpoint, the sources were divided roughly equally between the States and Canada.

But that was one year. In one city.

Ottawa police estimate nearly 80% of crime guns in the capital are foreign-sourced. And Hamilton police say smuggled firearms constitute three-quarters of their city’s crime guns.

Still, Liberal ministers persist in the myth that there are 1,200 break-ins every year in Canada to steal firearms, even though StatsCan’s database shows just five “robberies to steal firearms” in 2013, 16 in 2014, 12 in 2015 and 18 each in of 2016 and 2017.

Despite repeated claims by leading Liberals and antigun activists, the vast major of crime guns in Canada are almost certainly not bought legally by a licensed owner here, then lost or sold on the black market.

Moreover, firearms researcher Dennis Young, himself an ex-Mountie, has filed numerous access-toinfo requests with the federal government. Young has managed to pry out the fact that neither the RCMP nor StatsCan have ever compiled statistics on the sources of crime guns. The RCMP admitted to Young they don’t even have a definition of what constitutes a “crime gun.”

Just as the Liberals pushed former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to rig the SNC case for partisan, Liberal ends, they seem to be making stuff up about legit gun owners for partisan purposes, too.

It’s as simple and cynical as that.

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Search for Turkish man underway after 3 killed, 9 wounded in Utrecht tram shooting

Dutch police have released the name and photo of a 37-year-old Turkish man sought in connection with Monday morning's shooting on a tram in Utrecht that has left three people dead and nine wounded.

'The culprit is still on the run,' says anti-terror co-ordinator as threat alert raised to highest level

The Associated Press · Posted: Mar 18, 2019 7:03 AM ET | Last Updated: 2 minutes ago
 
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A manhunt was launched Monday for Gokmen Tanis, 37, shown in this image on Utrecht police's Twitter, in connection with Monday's shooting on a tram in the central Netherlands city. (Police Utrecht/Associated Press)

Dutch police have released the name and photo of a Turkish man sought in connection with Monday morning's shooting on a tram in Utrecht that has left three people dead and nine wounded.

"The police ask you to watch out for 37-year-old Gokman Tanis (born in Turkey) in connection with this morning's incident," a police statement said.

Police posted a photo on Twitter of the bearded man that shows him sitting on public transportation.

Investigators earlier said they're considering a possible "terrorist motive" and are looking into reports of other shootings in Utrecht, the fourth largest city in the Netherlands.

The Dutch anti-terror co-ordinator raised the threat alert in Utrecht province to its highest level after someone opened fire on the tram around 10:45 a.m. local time.

Possible 'terrorist motive'

An anti-terrorism unit was sent to the scene, and according to police, anti-terror co-ordinator Pieter-Jaap Aalbersberg said investigators were considering the possibility there was a "terrorist motive."

"The culprit is still on the run. A terror motive cannot be excluded," he said in a Twitter message.

netherlands-utrecht-tram-shooting.jpgThe shooting took place in a residential neighbourhood of Utrecht. Police say at least three people were killed and nine wounded during the shooting on a tram. (EPA-EFE)

Dutch police said they were looking for a least one person who might have fled by car. Spokesperson Bernhard Jens did not rule out that more people might be involved.

Initially, police confirmed one person had been killed after they erected a tent over a body lying next to the tram. Utrecht Mayor Jan van Zanen later revised the death toll to three and said nine others were wounded, three of them seriously.

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte called the situation "very worrying," while the counterterrorco-ordinator said he was holding a "crisis" meeting.

Democracy over 'fanaticism and violence'

"There is a mix of disbelief and disgust" throughout the Netherlands, Rutte said. "If it is a terror attack, then we have only one answer: our nation, democracy must be stronger than fanaticism and violence."

Utrecht police cordoned off the 24 October Square tram station, located in a residential neighbourhood outside the city centre, while emergency services rushed to the scene.

Helicopters were dispatched to airlift victims to hospital and police were appealing to the public to stay away to allow first responders to do their work.

netherlands-shooting.jpgDutch counterterrorism police prepare to enter a house after the tram shooting. (Peter Dejong/Associated Press)

Police instructed schools in the city to keep their doors closed.

German police said they have upped surveillance on the country's border with the Netherlands and are on the lookout for the gunman responsible for the tram shooting. 

Heinrich Onstein, a spokesperson for the federal police in the border state of North Rhine-Westphalia, said additional police had been added to watch not only major highways, but also minor crossings as well as railway routes. 

utrecht-netherlands.jpg(CBC News/BBC/Google Earth)

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