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2 hours ago, DEFCON said:

I'm proud to proclaim my support for Trump and gang!

All the name calling and fake news in the world cannot make-up for the fact that WE WON!

The 'losers' are just going to have to get a grip on their emotions.

 

It's unfortunate that ideology wins over reality.

Having lived through the Harris years in Ontario, this will be just the same, only on a global basis.

Remember, conservatives only conserve money for the rich.

 

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I didn't see the correction regarding the woman who complained her hijab was torn off. Allegedly....she lied. Trump was elected by virtue of the votes of those he persuaded with his campaign pron

This is all I will say on the subject. Let's be honest, they didn't exactly have an easy choice. Liar vs. Liar is a pretty accurate way to frame it. They made their choice but were deeply divided in d

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17 minutes ago, deicer said:

It's unfortunate that ideology wins over reality.

Having lived through the Harris years in Ontario, this will be just the same, only on a global basis.

Remember, conservatives only conserve money for the rich.

 

And based on what we are seeing from our Liberals you can conclude : Liberals spend money they don't have and leave the resulting debt for the next generations to pay back.

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14 hours ago, Malcolm said:

And based on what we are seeing from our Liberals you can conclude : Liberals spend money they don't have and leave the resulting debt for the next generations to pay back.

Really???

Do we have to go through the reality check again about how Harper's regime raised the debt level more than any government in Canadian history???

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-matter-how-you-add-it-up-harpers-fiscal-record-is-a-catastrophe/

How does this compare to the Harper government’s fiscal record? In 2006-07, the Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8 billion — which they turned into a deficit of $5.8 billion within two years.

Since then, they have been in deficit each and every year. In 2009-10, the deficit reached its peak of 3.5 per cent of GDP. They are desperate now to show a surplus in 2015-16 — one surplus in nine years. Since Harper was elected, the federal debt has increased by over $150 billion, wiping out the reduction in federal debt achieved under Chretien and Martin. Not much to boast about there.

At least when the Liberals give it away, it's to the common Canadian, not Corporate special interests.

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

Personally I wouldnt class that as a terrorist shooting.  Hate crime or racially motivated but certainly not terrorist.  The idea of a Terror attack is to inflict as much damage as possible to inflict terror on as many people as possible.  It is over used in this day and age I believe.

Yes this is the negative direction the US has taken.  Unfortunately it is just exposing what has been there all along but was not "Politically Correct" to speak up about.  The Donald has removed that "filter" so hate and racism are the new america.

 

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6 hours ago, deicer said:

Really???

Do we have to go through the reality check again about how Harper's regime raised the debt level more than any government in Canadian history???

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/04/19/no-matter-how-you-add-it-up-harpers-fiscal-record-is-a-catastrophe/

How does this compare to the Harper government’s fiscal record? In 2006-07, the Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8 billion — which they turned into a deficit of $5.8 billion within two years.

Since then, they have been in deficit each and every year. In 2009-10, the deficit reached its peak of 3.5 per cent of GDP. They are desperate now to show a surplus in 2015-16 — one surplus in nine years. Since Harper was elected, the federal debt has increased by over $150 billion, wiping out the reduction in federal debt achieved under Chretien and Martin. Not much to boast about there.

At least when the Liberals give it away, it's to the common Canadian, not Corporate special interests.

Deicer: Re giving money away, are your overlooking Bombardier? Here is your reality check as issued by your favorite government: 

Ottawa's deficit hits $14 billion nine months into 2016-17 fiscal year

By: Staff The Canadian Press Published on

OTTAWA — The federal government ran a budgetary shortfall of $14 billion over the first nine months of the fiscal year, compared with a $3.2-billion surplus over the same period a year earlier.

The Finance Department's monthly fiscal monitor says federal program expenses between April and December rose $16.7 billion, or 8.8 per cent, compared with the same stretch a year ago.

A closer look at the numbers shows that major government transfers to individuals, including seniors benefits, were up $5.7 billion, or 9.3 per cent, while direct-program spending rose $8.9 billion, or 11.3 per cent.

Government revenues, such as those pulled in from income taxes, were down $1.9 billion or 0.9 per cent compared with 2015-16.

The Trudeau government is projecting a $25.1-billion deficit for 2016-17 as part of its plan to run several double-digit shortfalls over the coming years in an effort to lift the economy through infrastructure investments and larger child benefits.

The Finance Department also says Ottawa posted a $1.3-billion deficit in December alone — compared to a $2.2-billion surplus in December 2015.

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" The left continues to descend in to insanity; arguing over who can and cannot use which bathroom" 

CNN's Cuomo: Underage Girls Should Be Taught 'Tolerance' For Male Genitals In School Locker Rooms

 

 

http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/cnns-cuomo-underage-girls-should-be-15592533/

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 To take your year in and compare with the Conservative Government year in and the following year:Henry and Cathy from Budget 2015Reality check:

After producing a surplus in 2007-08 of $9.6 billion, the Harper government delivered a deficit of $5.8 billion in 2008-09 during the global recession.

Now getting back to your Liberals: 

In November, Finance Minister Bill Morneau's fall economic and fiscal statement predicted a deficit of $25.1 billion this year. The annual shortfalls are gradually expected to shrink over the coming years to $14.6 billion in 2021-22.

So if they stay in power for 8 years the deficit will be around 200Billion. A lot more than that your complain the Conservatives spent. 

 Link to my sources:  http://globalnews.ca/news/2202138/did-harper-really-run-eight-straight-deficits-like-the-ndp-liberals-claim/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/decades-deficits-morneau-1.3923060

 

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1 hour ago, Jaydee said:

" The left continues to descend in to insanity; arguing over who can and cannot use which bathroom" 

CNN's Cuomo: Underage Girls Should Be Taught 'Tolerance' For Male Genitals In School Locker Rooms

 

 

http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/cnns-cuomo-underage-girls-should-be-15592533/

And conversely teen age boys in that locker room should be taught to ignore any female nudity.  Ya Sure. :D

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58 minutes ago, Malcolm said:

 To take your year in and compare with the Conservative Government year in and the following year:Henry and Cathy from Budget 2015Reality check:

After producing a surplus in 2007-08 of $9.6 billion, the Harper government delivered a deficit of $5.8 billion in 2008-09 during the global recession.

Now getting back to your Liberals: 

In November, Finance Minister Bill Morneau's fall economic and fiscal statement predicted a deficit of $25.1 billion this year. The annual shortfalls are gradually expected to shrink over the coming years to $14.6 billion in 2021-22.

 

So if they stay in power for 8 years the deficit will be around 200Billion. A lot more than that your complain the Conservatives spent. 

 

 Link to my sources:  http://globalnews.ca/news/2202138/did-harper-really-run-eight-straight-deficits-like-the-ndp-liberals-claim/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/decades-deficits-morneau-1.3923060

 

Using your global article, it still states that the Harper government ran up a deficit of over $144 billion not counting the last two years of his mandate.

That's the fact.

What Trudeau is going to do is speculation.

You can fear monger all you want, but the truth is, all governments spend money, so let's see what happens over at least one mandate, then have a factual discussion.

 

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10 minutes ago, deicer said:

Using your global article, it still states that the Harper government ran up a deficit of over $144 billion not counting the last two years of his mandate.

That's the fact.

.....and the fact also is that with a global economic breakdown the Lefties were clamouring for them to 'spend more, spend more'

then Harpers government put the budget into surplus by 2015.

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48 minutes ago, Fido said:

.....and the fact also is that with a global economic breakdown the Lefties were clamouring for them to 'spend more, spend more'

then Harpers government put the budget into surplus by 2015.

Harper used smoke from a fire sale, lapsed promises, and underspending for Veterans to push the numbers the way he wanted it.  Quite disingenuous.

http://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/14/how-harper-got-his-surplus-and-why-it-may-not-matter/

...about 40 per cent of that gain came from the government’s one-time sale of General Motors shares, the Conservatives still used it to heap praise on their own fiscal management skills — even as the opposition parties accused them of balancing the books by “underspending” in areas such as Veterans Affairs, Aboriginal Affairs and seniors.

Indeed, a scathing report released in late 2014 showed that while vets were petitioning Ottawa for more benefits, Veterans Affairs Canada had actually returned $1.13 billion to the federal treasury in unspent funds since the Conservatives came to power in 2006. One third of that amount had been sent back between 2011 and 2013. Public Accounts figures further revealed that over the same period, the government as a whole allowed more than $18 billion in budgeted funding to lapse.

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Liberals rapped as $900M unspent by Indigenous Affairs among ‘lapsed’ funding for fiscal 2016

OTTAWA—Veterans Affairs under-spent its budget by $200 million last year, raising questions about the Liberal government’s plan to pump even more cash into a system that seems perpetually unable to get money out the door.

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