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I didn't see the correction regarding the woman who complained her hijab was torn off. Allegedly....she lied. Trump was elected by virtue of the votes of those he persuaded with his campaign pron

This is all I will say on the subject. Let's be honest, they didn't exactly have an easy choice. Liar vs. Liar is a pretty accurate way to frame it. They made their choice but were deeply divided in d

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It is easy to say that promises weren't kept, however when you look at the damage that trump has done with his policies, it's not as advantageous for the average American what he has done.

As for the stock market, it has been covered numerous times in this thread, but here it is once again.  

There is a difference between owning a few stocks, and controlling the market.  trump policies work for those who control the market.

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8 hours ago, JDunkin said:

Another fraud right here on the forum. One has to assume that what you are saying is that people should not vote for Trump because he didn't follow through on lots of promises, or that he broke promises. How many politicians have not kept promises. Well, lets look at Trump versus Obama at these to links:

So Trump is at 50 promises broken after 1 term(or almost) while Obama broke 125 promises after two terms. Obama broke more promises per year in power than Trump. And seeing as Biden was on the team, I strongly suggest that people drop their support for Biden and vote for the man who breaks less promises.


By the way, millions of average Americans have 401K's or pension plans invested in the stock market. You may not care about it but Trump and those shareholders such as teachers, public servants, etc, etc do.

who stands to gain the most? Read between the bloody lines.  dig a little deeper.  Trump and his band of misfits do not care about anyone but the elite and themselves.


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Senate Homeland Security Committee authorizes subpoenas for testimony from Obama officials as part of Russia probe

Includes John Brennan, James Clapper and James Comey


The Senate Homeland Security Committee on Wednesday voted to authorize subpoenas for former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, former FBI Director James Comey, and other Obama administration officials as part of its broad review into the origins of the Russia investigation.The committee on Wednesday held a business meeting to authorize committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., to issue notices for taking depositions, subpoenas, for records, and subpoenas for testimony to individuals relating to the panel’s “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation, the Justice Department inspector general’s review of that investigation, and the “unmasking” of U.S. persons affiliated with the 2016 Trump campaign, transition team and the Trump administration.


The committee voted 8-6 to authorize the subpoenas.

The committee also authorized subpoenas for Sidney Blumenthal, former Obama chief of staff Denis McDonough, former FBI counsel Lisa Page, former FBI agent Joe Pientka, former ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, former FBI director of counterintelligence Bill Priestap, former White House national security adviser Susan Rice, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith – who pleaded guilty to making a false statement in the first criminal case arising from U.S. Attorney John Durham's review of the investigation into links between Russia and the 2016 Trump campaign – among others.

The committee further authorized subpoenas for “the production of all records” related to the FBI’s original Russia investigation and the Department of Justice Inspector General’s probe, as well as the process of “unmasking” for James Baker, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, DOJ official Bruce Ohr, FBI case agent Steven Somma, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Teftt, former deputy assistant attorney general Tashina Gauhar; and Stefan Halper.

The committee, earlier this summer, authorized subpoenas for the majority of the individuals that were named. But on Wednesday, after a back-and-forth between Johnson and the top Democrat on the panel, the committee gave the final go ahead, leaving authority on timing and scheduling of depositions and issuance of subpoenas up to the chairman.


Halper, a Cambridge University professor who reportedly is deeply connected with British and American intelligence agencies, has been widely reported as a confidential source for the FBI during the bureau’s original investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Last year, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz was reviewing Halper’s work during the Russia probe, as well as his work with the FBI prior to the start of that investigation.

During the 2016 campaign, Halper contacted several members of the Trump campaign, including former foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos and former aide Carter Page. Page also was the subject of several Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants during the campaign

The committee also authorized a subpoena for James Baker, the director of the Office of Net Assessment at the Defense Department. That office awarded government contracts to Halper, including one in September 2015.

Last month, Johnson issued the panel’s first subpoena as part of the committee’s Russia review to the FBI, demanding that the bureau produce “all records related to the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.”

"This includes, but is not limited to, all records provided or made available to the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice for its review," the subpoena states, referring to Horowitz's review of abuses related to the FISA warrants.

The subpoena also demands "all records related to requests" to the General Services Administration or the Office of the Inspector General for the GSA for "presidential transition records from November 2016 through December 2017."

In June, the committee voted to give Johnson authority to send subpoenas as part of the panel’s investigation into the origins of the Russia probe and the process of “unmasking.”

The committee authorized subpoenas to the FBI for the production of all records related to the Crossfire Hurricane Investigation — the bureau’s internal code name for the Russia probe, which began in July 2016.


The committee also authorized subpoenas to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for the production of all records related to the process of “unmasking” U.S. persons or entities affiliated “formally or informally” with the Trump campaign, the Trump transition team or the Trump administration from June 2015 through January 2017.

Unmasking occurs after U.S. citizens' conversations are incidentally picked up in conversations with foreign officials who are being monitored by the intelligence community. The U.S. citizens' identities are supposed to be protected if their participation is incidental and no wrongdoing is suspected. However, officials can determine the U.S. citizens' names through a process that is supposed to safeguard their rights.

Meanwhile, the Senate Judiciary Committee, in June, also approved a slew of subpoenas for documents and testimony from Obama administration officials involved in the Russia investigation as part of the panel’s review of the origins of that probe.

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21 minutes ago, JDunkin said:

Same old fraudulent stuff from the left. Admittedly, I only got to sexual harassments and then reminded myself how all those frauds on the left(and their fake news allies) pretended to be so angry about Trump and Kavanaugh sexual assault accusations but have completely ignored the ones against Biden.


The article provides links for each accusation.

If you believe it is fraudulent, the please post verifiable information proving your point.

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So you believe that sexual harrassment and assault aren't an offence?

Out of all of them, let's just look at the latest one.

A DNA sample was obtained from a dress.  If trump is innocent, why wouldn't he be clamouring to provide a sample and exonerate himself?

Such a simple solution.



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7 minutes ago, JDunkin said:

Gee De-Icer, you sound so concerned like all the other lefties about this latest accusation. I promise to give it as much attention as you and your cohorts gave to Tara Reade. 

Remember, I care just like you do. I guess I just prefer to follow high road method of our moral leaders on the left. Ignore and deny.



I see you are referring to an incident that was investigated and dismissed.  As well, an incident that was beyond the statute of limitations( as the alleged victim even admitted).

Timing is everything when you want to smear a candidate isn't it?  Why did she so conveniently come forward when she did?  Who is her backer?

As for trump, it's happening in real time.  DNA needs to be verified.  If he is innocent, why won't he?  He should close the investigation and leave it to the conspiracy theorists.


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22 minutes ago, deicer said:

I see you are referring to an incident that was investigated and dismissed.  As well, an incident that was beyond the statute of limitations( as the alleged victim even admitted).

Timing is everything when you want to smear a candidate isn't it?  Why did she so conveniently come forward when she did?  Who is her backer?

As for trump, it's happening in real time.  DNA needs to be verified.  If he is innocent, why won't he?  He should close the investigation and leave it to the conspiracy theorists.


I’m not saying your wrong about Trump deicer, I think he is a con and a sleaze and will ultimately Betray his supporters. I think Trump should be accountable for his actions be them good or bad. But I think Biden and Trudeau ought to be to as well.. full stop. It obvious that we are being fed deception and fraud when news and media and people in general scream bloody murder when the opponents are accused but refuse to acknowledge it and or blow off away when one of their own are accused of the exact same. Deicer I suggest to you that I would respect and be influenced by  your position far more if your side would ever display that any of your deeply held convictions mattered a whim when a leftist politician does the exact same thing or worse.. The same goes for the right as they play the same game. If you really [like real life actually care and not just a political game] believe in a principle then clean your own damn backyard with the same passion. That I promise I will respect! The side that starts doing that I will begin to be seriously influenced by. Until I see that it is all a bunch of noise signifying nothing

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3 hours ago, JDunkin said:

Yeah, we love whatever investigation is done.


I like how Biden wouldn't open up the records to investigate further as seen in the link below.

"Now there’s a focus on his refusal to commit to opening up his archived papers at the University of Delaware — a trove of documents that critics suspect might house Reade’s complaint. Rather than set the record straight Friday in his first remarks on the subject, Biden might have inadvertently opened a new line of attack on his campaign this fall and provided President Trump — who has famously refused to release his own tax records and has been accused of sexual assault multiple times — with a measure of cover."


Isn't so odd how the left demonize Trump for not being open on his taxes to be 'transparent' but when it comes to Biden, he gets another pass from the left.


Because they are frauds who pretend to care.

Thanks for showing your concern about Tara Reade. I wonder if she will show up at the debate in the way that all of Bill Clintons sex assault accusers that Hillary demonized showed up to the 2016 debates.

Oh by the way, what evidence ever came up about Kavanaugh's accusers. Haven't seen anything yet. I guess we could ask the lawyer of one of the accusers the Dems were so eager to believe, but Avenetti is in jail now(and his CNN career is over).


This folks is why I keep showing what a bunch of frauds they are. Vote on policy.

Where this accusation by Reade comes off as a hatchet job is in this passage in the Politico article:

Reade, who has publicly acknowledged that at the time of the alleged incident she didn’t report it as an assault, says she no longer has a copy of the harassment claim.

“She said she filed a report. She has her employment records still,” a frustrated Biden said Friday.

“She said she filed a report with the ... United States Senate at the time. If a report was ever filed, it was filed there, period,” he said.

Five of Biden’s former staffers who worked with Reade disputed her account in interviews with POLITICO. They say they have no recollection of Reade filing or making any complaint or being pressured to quit her job over any incident.

So having said that, why can't she request it out of her own records held by the Senate?  It would be on her record of employment, would it not?  And why would the Senate or the Archives withhold her papers from her?  Unless they didn't exist?

This passage explains why the trump team would want to push this...

“The idea that they would all be made public while I was running for public office — they could be really taken out of context,” Biden said, bemoaning it would “be fodder in a campaign.”

So again, I ask, all these years, after the fact, why did she come forward?  

trump has had verified claims against him, the payoff cheques were made public.  This was just an attempt to did dirt.

As well, what Biden did with his records is stated as being standard amongst politicians.  So because it is him, it is different?

So if the right can't find any legitimate 'dirt' on Biden, as is shown by even how the claims against his son were shown to be false, which side would you trust?  Biden who they can't find dirt on, or trump who is actively involved in court cases to hide his records and the truth.




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So you are saying trump has never disparaged a woman?  There are too many quotes to pick from. Go back and look at what trump had in his tweets during the senate confirmation hearings.

And it was done in real time, and it continues to be so.


 Just take the word of trump.  He shows what his moral character is every day.

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So you are saying trump has never disparaged a woman?  There are too many quotes to pick from. Go back and look at what trump had in his tweets during the senate confirmation hearings.

And it was done in real time, and it continues to be so.


 Just take the word of trump.  He shows what his moral character is every day.

Just a way of hiding that he has no policy.

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11 minutes ago, JDunkin said:

See how the left lies to you. He has plenty of policies. Like not shutting down the economy again versus Biden saying he will if someone he believes to be an expert says so. 

Immigration policies, tax policies, foreign policies. Of course like anybody standing for re-election, many of the policies are a continuation of what is already implemented or partially implemented.

Yet De-Icer the man who says you shouldn't vote for someone who lies says that "HE HAS NO POLICY".


So what has he done for the benefit of the 'average' American?

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On 9/15/2020 at 8:11 AM, deicer said:

Please provide links to where Biden has said that he wants to do those two things.

Too funny, but this will be the last time I spend searching links for you.


If you want to have an educated discussion on Joe Biden, then let's do that. But I'm afraid it will be a Bill Murray in Ground Hogs day.  I'm guessing you are an American.

Here are the debate questions about Joe Biden. Please do not post massive LARGE PRINT copy and paste. We can all read Facebook and twitter.

Since you asked me to get links @deicer 

Answer these questions.

1. Have you seen any videos of JB touching children and sniffing and touching them inappropriately? If so, as a supporter of JB, is this something you are okay with?

2. Are you happy about CA Newsom's new law in USA  reducing the age of sexual consent?

3.  What are your thoughs about Anthony W who was married to Huma A. Who was Hillary's PA? 

4. Have you watched any interviews with JB and noticed anything odd about his cognitive ability? 

I'm not asking about projection throwbacks back to Trump. I'll give my thoughts about him later. I'm truly interested in your opinion about JB. 

If you dare?



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Buckle up.


U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies of pancreatic cancer at 87

Ginsburg was unquestioned leader of court's liberal wing, revered by admirers

Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:36 PM - Associated Press

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died Friday at her home in Washington, D.C., the court says. She was 87.

Ginsburg died of complications from metastatic pancreatic cancer, the court said.

In July, she announced that she was undergoing chemotherapy treatment for lesions on her liver, the latest of several battles with cancer.

Ginsburg spent her final years on the bench as the unquestioned leader of the court's liberal wing and became something of a rock star to her admirers.

Young women especially seemed to embrace the court's Jewish grandmother, affectionately calling her the Notorious RBG, for her defence of the rights of women and minorities and the strength and resilience she displayed in the face of personal loss and health crises.

Those health issues included five bouts with cancer beginning in 1999, falls that resulted in broken ribs, insertion of a stent to clear a blocked artery and assorted other hospitalizations after she turned 75.

Ginsburg resisted calls by liberals to retire during Barack Obama's presidency at a time when Democrats held the Senate and a replacement with similar views could have been confirmed. Instead, President Donald Trump will almost certainly try to push her successor through the Republican-controlled Senate — and move the conservative court even more to the right.


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I just watched that video of Obama. Why is he speaking this way? I've heard him speak before and he does not have this accent?

Anyway, I agree with you about policy. I'm new to following US politics. I think the world has eyes on the US after the whole BLM/antifa riots. 

I am starting to wonder about all the faciad.

It's an interesting experiment ? 

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10 hours ago, JDunkin said:

Well that's interesting De-icer. 

According to the video, one of the reasons that Tucker Carlsons writer is a vicious racist because he "showed no sympathy by calling George Floyd a career criminal". Based on what information, I don't know". I didn't watch beyond that part because I thought I might look up Floyds criminal record. 

You can see the record here.

So now one is a vicious racist to call someone with multiple convictions a career criminal. That is what your video says de-icer. Maybe you could tell us at what point someone becomes a career criminal, so we won't accidentally be vicious racists by calling someone just that when they haven't reached that level yet.

Did he deserve to die ? Probably not. Did the entire country have to go up in flames because of one police officer? Definitely not ! Is this someone you want your kids to grow up and idolize? Guess only you can answer that question.

Compared to the National BLM  " HERO " good ole Georgie boy, I guess I'm a saint in comparison. I've Never had a parking ticket, though I have had 2 speeding tickets in my bad...I apologize to all the speeding tickets Protest groupies for my egregious behaviour.

From the snopes article,


" According to the county’s postmortem toxicology screening, which is summarized below and was performed one day after Floyd’s death, he was intoxicated with fentanyl and had recently used methamphetamines (as well as other substances) before Chauvin choked him.


More Specifically, Floyd tested positive for 11 ng/mL of fentanyl — which is a synthetic opioid pain reliever — and 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, or meth, though it’s unclear by what method the intoxicants got into his bloodstream or for what reasons.


His arrest record.


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 The US (and Canadian imo ) education system is totally screwed. 


Marshall University professor suspended after she says she hopes Trump supporters die

A Marshall University Professor has been suspended after hosting a virtual lecture where she tells her students that she hopes Trump supporters contract COVID and die.

“I’ve become the type of person where I hope they all get it and die," she stated. "I’m sorry, but that’s so frustrating — just — I don’t know what else to do. You can’t argue with them, you can’t talk sense with them, um, I said to somebody yesterday I hope they all die before the election."


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10 hours ago, JDunkin said:

Even if a prison guard were to murder Charles Manson, he should have to face justice. But there is nothing wrong with calling out Manson for what he was. A murderer. I see no vicious racism in calling out any other criminal for what they are. Is society better off. You can decide for yourself.

J. Dunkin.

A few weeks late but, "Welcome to the Forum" are a welcome addition to help balance out the insanity some days.

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11 hours ago, JDunkin said:


By the way, why was Bill Clinton, hero of the left impeached?


For screwing an intern and lying about it.

Unlike trump who is screwing the American people and lying about it.


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In these old eyes... Trump Disagree with   4      Agree with 10

                                  Biden Disagree with 10     Agree with 4


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You missed posting while you were away ?

Hilary Lost!

Bill is part of history.

What you fail to acknowledge is that that trump and the gop are doing now far exceeds getting blown.  

And Flynn was convicted because he was lying for trump.  He's just another piece of the puzzle.

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