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I didn't see the correction regarding the woman who complained her hijab was torn off. Allegedly....she lied. Trump was elected by virtue of the votes of those he persuaded with his campaign pron

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They voted for Trump because he was famous on dumbed down American "Reality" Tv and they recognized him from that.  Nothing more.

Americans do not know any more about politics than I do about ancient samoa.  Famous faces get votes. period.  It is the total dumbing down of america and the precursor to its demise.

 

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As more of the truth comes out, it really is treasonous....

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/trump-woodward-book-panic-coronavirus-china.html

Trump’s Excuse for His Coronavirus Lies Is Even More Incriminating

The “panic” defense is part of his collusion with China.

Thanks to Bob Woodward, we now have audio recordings that prove what public records have shown: President Donald Trump deliberately played down the coronavirus as it swept through the United States. Trump says he did this to prevent a “panic.” But that excuse is even more damning, because it’s the same rationale he initially gave for China’s censorship of information about the virus. Suppressing “panic” was the core of a corrupt alliance between Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping.

The story Trump now tells, that the “China virus” caught him off guard, is a lie. He was well briefed and well aware, not just about the virus, but about China’s deception. As Greg Miller and Ellen Nakashima reported months ago in the Washington Post, Trump’s briefers warned him “at the beginning of January” that the virus was spreading in Wuhan and that the Chinese government was working “to conceal details of the outbreak.” For weeks thereafter, he was told that “China was suppressing information about the contagion’s transmissibility and lethal toll.” Woodward’s new book, Rage, reports that Trump’s head “popped up” when he was advised, in a briefing on Jan. 28, that the virus would be “the biggest national security threat” of his presidency.

 

Trump could have warned Americans. Instead, he teamed up with Xi. On Feb. 7, he confided to Woodward what he had just learned from an overnight phone call with the Chinese president. “We’ve got a little bit of an interesting setback with the virus going in China,” Trump told Woodward. “It goes through air,” he said, and “it’s also more deadly” than “even your strenuous flus.” But in public statements that day, Trump didn’t talk about setbacks. He said China was working smoothly with the U.S. government, was managing the virus “really well,” and would take care of it. He tweeted that Xi “will be successful” and that the virus would soon be “gone.”

During their phone call, Xi suggested to Trump that in April, warm weather would kill the virus. Trump could have run that idea by his own health officials, all of whom thought it was a bad assumption. But he didn’t. Instead, Trump began to peddle it as a talking point on Twitter, at rallies, and in speeches and interviews. It turned out to be fatally wrong. In late spring and summer, as states yielded to Trump’s pressure and allowed bars and restaurants to reopen, the virus rampaged across the United States, causing tens of thousands of additional deaths.

Why did Trump parrot Xi’s assurances, defend the Chinese government, and join it in shading the truth? One reason is that the two leaders shared an interest in looking as though they had the crisis under control. Another is that Trump wanted China to give American scientists more data about the virus. But there’s a third reason that goes to the heart of Trump’s fraud as a China hawk: He had cut a deal with Xi to get Beijing’s help in the 2020 U.S. election.

Trump wasn’t just defending China’s censorship. He was saying he would have done the same thing.

The evidence of this pact is straightforward. John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser, directly witnessed Trump asking Xi for help in getting reelected, through a trade deal that included Chinese purchases of American crops. Trump signed the deal on Jan. 15. On Feb. 10, three days after his call with Xi, Trump boasted at a campaign rally that the trade deal would “defeat so many of our opponents.” In the early months of the virus crisis, Trump referred constantly to the deal and hailed China as a benefactor. He didn’t want to lose that income.

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Trump nominated for second Nobel Peace Prize following Serbia-Kosovo deal

WASHINGTON — President Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for a second time this week — this time for brokering a historic peace deal between Serbia and breakaway republic Kosovo.

In a Friday morning tweet, Magnus Jacobsson, a member of the Swedish Parliament, announced he was nominating the Trump administration and the two European nations for their “joint work for peace and economic development, through the cooperation agreement signed in the White House.”

“Trade and communications are important building blocks for peace,” Jacobsson wrote, sharing his letter to the Nobel Committee.

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17 minutes ago, Marshall said:

Am I mistaken or has he (regime) done more in this regard than the previous President?   https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-israel-uae-middle-east-peace/2020/08/16/e245a358-defc-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

What exactly did the previous President actually do other than hug Justin? 
 

Trumps already done more for his country In his first term than Obama did in 8 years total.

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I stand in awe.

 27 (that's twenty-seven) cell phones from Muellers's investigative team all wiped by accident at roughly the same time. They all forgot their passwords and entered the wrong one 10 (that's ten) times EACH... one after the other (over and over again) to cause the data dump. And it could only happen after selecting that particular feature as an option... by "accident." 

Not a word of this on CNN BTW.

Accidents happen eh?

 

  

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jaydee said:

 

Trump announces deal between Bahrain, Israel to normalize relations in push for Mideast peace

Deal comes after a similar agreement with United Arab Emirates just last month

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-bahrain-israel-mideast-deal-peace?fbclid=IwAR2J4LjAb-zzCqt0sZrNqBJNTvm0OHhNUrfMXGcAYQjXRYxjn6fje0rMj0A

 

Maybe it had something to do with saving the $6 billion arms deal with Bahrain? 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/09/11/trump-announces-israel-and-bahrain-normalize-relations/5770726002/

Trump has delegated Middle East peace negotiations to his son and adviser, Jared Kushner. In a briefing with reporters on Friday, Kushner did not answer questions about whether Israel had made concessions to win the deal, nor did he say whether the U.S. had agreed to push through new arms sales to Bahrain or provide other assistance to the kingdom.

As well, they were to sell a couple billion worth of F-35's to the UAE that Israel somehow agreed to...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/politics/israel-uae-weapons.html

WASHINGTON — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel privately went along with a plan for the Trump administration to sell advanced weapons to the United Arab Emirates, despite publicly saying later that he opposed the arms deal, according to officials familiar with the negotiations.

 

So in the end, is it really just money talking?

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Justin is another issue, and what trump does is affecting us more.  And that's what this thread is about.  If you want to complain about Justin, there are multiple threads about that, play there.  

Otherwise, 

 

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On 9/11/2020 at 7:48 AM, boestar said:

They voted for Trump because he was famous on dumbed down American "Reality" Tv and they recognized him from that.  Nothing more.

Americans do not know any more about politics than I do about ancient samoa.  Famous faces get votes. period.  It is the total dumbing down of america and the precursor to its demise.

 

I think biggest reason people voted for Tump was Hillary. They are going to vote for him again too I suspect. Like Wolfhunter has said many times he is probably the most unlikable and easiest political to beat ever. Just lay out a half viable alternative. A basic plan for reasonable governance. The Democrats are determined to defeat themselves at all cost. What a bloody mess

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On 9/11/2020 at 1:48 PM, Jaydee said:

Trump nominated for second Nobel Peace Prize following Serbia-Kosovo deal

WASHINGTON — President Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for a second time this week — this time for brokering a historic peace deal between Serbia and breakaway republic Kosovo.

In a Friday morning tweet, Magnus Jacobsson, a member of the Swedish Parliament, announced he was nominating the Trump administration and the two European nations for their “joint work for peace and economic development, through the cooperation agreement signed in the White House.”

“Trade and communications are important building blocks for peace,” Jacobsson wrote, sharing his letter to the Nobel Committee.

The Nobel group has been taken over by liberals who have no interest in anything other than the usual political agenda.

 

Be honest and ask yourself what Obama did to get the peace prize. It was even admitted that the intention was to influence. I think the best thing is if Trump doesn't win the prize. It will prove how little credibility this group has.

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16 minutes ago, JDunkin said:

The Nobel group has been taken over by liberals who have no interest in anything other than the usual political agenda.

 

Be honest and ask yourself what Obama did to get the peace prize. It was even admitted that the intention was to influence. I think the best thing is if Trump doesn't win the prize. It will prove how little credibility this group has.

Certainly not on race?   

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On 9/11/2020 at 8:39 PM, deicer said:

Maybe it had something to do with saving the $6 billion arms deal with Bahrain? 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2020/09/11/trump-announces-israel-and-bahrain-normalize-relations/5770726002/

Trump has delegated Middle East peace negotiations to his son and adviser, Jared Kushner. In a briefing with reporters on Friday, Kushner did not answer questions about whether Israel had made concessions to win the deal, nor did he say whether the U.S. had agreed to push through new arms sales to Bahrain or provide other assistance to the kingdom.

As well, they were to sell a couple billion worth of F-35's to the UAE that Israel somehow agreed to...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/politics/israel-uae-weapons.html

WASHINGTON — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel privately went along with a plan for the Trump administration to sell advanced weapons to the United Arab Emirates, despite publicly saying later that he opposed the arms deal, according to officials familiar with the negotiations.

 

So in the end, is it really just money talking?

You ask is it just the money talking. A little history that get conveniently ignored:

Here is an old NYT article(back when they were a credible organization) how some info on the military assistance for Egypt and Israel when Jimmy Carter was president.

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/03/15/archives/carter-is-said-to-put-new-us-aid-for-israel-and-egypt-at-4-billion.html

 

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I've been avoiding this post as it's a daunting long 183 pages. Wow, you guys talk alot ☄ 

What I have a hard time understanding is that Biden's campaign wants to defund the police and take away your firearms. But at the same time have no problem with the 'peaceful protests' where mayhem is killing people.

Common sense would make you question the Democrats position after all that's happening down there. 

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10 hours ago, Amelia said:

I've been avoiding this post as it's a daunting long 183 pages. Wow, you guys talk alot ☄ 

What I have a hard time understanding is that Biden's campaign wants to defund the police and take away your firearms. But at the same time have no problem with the 'peaceful protests' where mayhem is killing people.

Common sense would make you question the Democrats position after all that's happening down there. 

Please provide links to where Biden has said that he wants to do those two things.

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Intentional, or unintentional?  

One would think that at that level of 'advertising' they would know.  However, with the present occupant of the white house, he probably has the russians doing his advertising.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/14/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets-414883

Trump ad asks people to support the troops. But it uses a picture of Russian jets.

The Trump Make America Great Again Committee is run by both the Republican National Committee and the campaign.

A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.

The ad, which was made by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, features silhouettes of three soldiers walking as a fighter jet flies over them. The ad first appeared on Sept. 8 and ran until Sept. 12.

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11 hours ago, JDunkin said:

You ask is it just the money talking. A little history that get conveniently ignored:

Here is an old NYT article(back when they were a credible organization) how some info on the military assistance for Egypt and Israel when Jimmy Carter was president.

https://www.nytimes.com/1979/03/15/archives/carter-is-said-to-put-new-us-aid-for-israel-and-egypt-at-4-billion.html

 

That is exactly the point,  the U.S. has always been about feeding the military industrial complex no matter which side they 'sell' to.

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This speaks for itself...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-14/dejoy-gave-600-000-to-gop-after-postmaster-job-opened-up

DeJoy Gave $600,000 to GOP After Postmaster Job Opened Up

Louis DeJoy boosted his giving to Republican political campaigns as the job of U.S. Postmaster General became available, a researcher told Congress.

 
 
 

DeJoy, who now holds the position, gave President Donald Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee more than $600,000 over eight weeks after the opening was announced, Lisa Graves, executive director of True North Research, which investigates the influence of money on public policy, said in written testimony submitted to a panel of the House Oversight Committee in advance of a hearing Monday.

 
 

In the 2019-2020 cycle, DeJoy has given more than $1.5 million to GOP candidates and campaigns, the bulk of which has gone to aid Trump’s 2020 election strategy, Graves said. The sum includes nearly $80,000 to aid GOP Senate races since last December, when the former Postmaster General announced she would resign.

 
 

“This level of partisanship,” Graves said in written testimony, “undermines public trust in the Postal Service as an institution.”

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55 minutes ago, deicer said:

That is exactly the point,  the U.S. has always been about feeding the military industrial complex no matter which side they 'sell' to.

Still doesn't change the fact of these peace agreements. 

Surely, you think the two peace agreements(and the one involving Serbia) are major accompliushments(a promise kept).

 

Or are you so rabidly anti-Trump that you would rather not have them. Of course, we know the answer that you have deep down inside but just won't admit to it.

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22 minutes ago, deicer said:

This speaks for itself...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-14/dejoy-gave-600-000-to-gop-after-postmaster-job-opened-up

DeJoy Gave $600,000 to GOP After Postmaster Job Opened Up

Louis DeJoy boosted his giving to Republican political campaigns as the job of U.S. Postmaster General became available, a researcher told Congress.

 
 

 

DeJoy, who now holds the position, gave President Donald Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee more than $600,000 over eight weeks after the opening was announced, Lisa Graves, executive director of True North Research, which investigates the influence of money on public policy, said in written testimony submitted to a panel of the House Oversight Committee in advance of a hearing Monday.

 
 

In the 2019-2020 cycle, DeJoy has given more than $1.5 million to GOP candidates and campaigns, the bulk of which has gone to aid Trump’s 2020 election strategy, Graves said. The sum includes nearly $80,000 to aid GOP Senate races since last December, when the former Postmaster General announced she would resign.

 
 

“This level of partisanship,” Graves said in written testimony, “undermines public trust in the Postal Service as an institution.”

One could easily find similar cronyism on both sides. Not nearly enough to vote against Trump because the same thing happens on both sides.

 

I strongly support voting based on the most important of things: POLICY.

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

Intentional, or unintentional?  

One would think that at that level of 'advertising' they would know.  However, with the present occupant of the white house, he probably has the russians doing his advertising.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/14/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets-414883

Trump ad asks people to support the troops. But it uses a picture of Russian jets.

The Trump Make America Great Again Committee is run by both the Republican National Committee and the campaign.

A digital ad released by a fundraising arm of the Trump campaign on Sept. 11 calling on people to “support our troops” uses a stock photo of Russian-made fighter jets and weapons.

The ad, which was made by the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, features silhouettes of three soldiers walking as a fighter jet flies over them. The ad first appeared on Sept. 8 and ran until Sept. 12.

Once again, you lose credibility with your Russian stuff which is now putting FBI agents in jail(with possibly more to come.

Is it a surprise to see a gaffe like this. No, we see it in the media all the tine when they show a 737 instead of an Embraer, etc, etc, etc.

Vote based on policy.

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