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An informal, wildly anecdotal poll of my hardcore Liberal acquaintances shows that OAC and "the green new deal" are both met with eye rolls and head shakes. None of them were willing to answer how food will be grown (in sufficient quantities) and transported (over long distances) following a ban on fossil fuels and general aviation.

Maybe someone here can help me out.... any takers?

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None of them were willing to answer how food will be grown (in sufficient quantities) and transported (over long distances) following a ban on fossil fuels and general aviation.

Maybe someone here can help me out.... any takers?

Re food, I guess the only answer will be to plow in all lawns and grow crops instead.  Back to the time of backyard chicken coops and of course a home grown meat animal.  Root cellers will also be a must and forget about out of season produce from other countries / regions.  …  The pain, the pain with little gain. 😀

 

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However if you choose that route and take the step to generate your own power by wind or solar and collect rain water to use as potable water the government will step in and stop you.  Kind of counter intuitive.  Big Green plan and when someone goes fully green the government stops them.  The green plan only works if the government gets the kickbacks.

 

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17 hours ago, Malcolm said:

the only answer will be to plow in all lawns and grow crops instead. 

I say we start with golf courses.... too much good farmland going to waste, too many trees cut down, to much chemical fertilizer and pesticides, and too many people driving too many miles to chase a little white ball. Food security and all that.

Maybe I should start campaigning against other people's hobbies eh? And clearly, golf clubs need to be registered to keep them out of terrorist hands:

https://torontosun.com/2017/06/07/alleged-golf-club-attacker-claimed-she-was-from-isis-source/wcm/04d0e0de-c0aa-43ab-8c1b-0c7b406cdd39

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To all the school kids going on 'strike' for Climate Change:


You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom. 


You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerized


You spend all day and night on electronic devices. 


More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke local roads and worsen rush hour traffic.


You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy,


Your entertainment comes from electric devices.


Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.


The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.


How about this... 


Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con. 
Walk or ride to school. Switch off your devices and read a book. 
Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.
No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little 'princesses', inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a 'noble cause' while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.
Wake up, grow up and learn to research facts and think for yourself and not blindly accept the words and thoughts of others - I don't think you formulated this action plan all by your self - suspect you may have had some influence and  'guidance' from those you trust ....a word of warning, be cautious of the influence of the 'left' because there may be a time in the future that you will be the ones left out...
 

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3 hours ago, Jaydee said:

https://www.facebook.com/669514516/posts/10158449515914517?sfns=mo

 

To all the school kids going on 'strike' for Climate Change:


You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom. 


You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerized


You spend all day and night on electronic devices. 


More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke local roads and worsen rush hour traffic.


You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy,


Your entertainment comes from electric devices.


Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.


The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.


How about this... 


Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con. 
Walk or ride to school. Switch off your devices and read a book. 
Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.
No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little 'princesses', inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a 'noble cause' while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.
Wake up, grow up and learn to research facts and think for yourself and not blindly accept the words and thoughts of others - I don't think you formulated this action plan all by your self - suspect you may have had some influence and  'guidance' from those you trust ....a word of warning, be cautious of the influence of the 'left' because there may be a time in the future that you will be the ones left out...
 

The previous comments should be directed to the parents and not their children.  …………………………………………..  🤬

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11 hours ago, Jaydee said:

https://www.facebook.com/669514516/posts/10158449515914517?sfns=mo

 

To all the school kids going on 'strike' for Climate Change:


You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom. 


You want TV in every room and your classes are all computerized


You spend all day and night on electronic devices. 


More than ever, you don't walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke local roads and worsen rush hour traffic.


You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy,


Your entertainment comes from electric devices.


Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.


The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.


How about this... 


Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con. 
Walk or ride to school. Switch off your devices and read a book. 
Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.
No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little 'princesses', inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a 'noble cause' while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.
Wake up, grow up and learn to research facts and think for yourself and not blindly accept the words and thoughts of others - I don't think you formulated this action plan all by your self - suspect you may have had some influence and  'guidance' from those you trust ....a word of warning, be cautious of the influence of the 'left' because there may be a time in the future that you will be the ones left out...
 

Created by the Baby Boomer Generation.  Place the blame where the blame is due.

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Nelson: Yes, David Suzuki, you are what you do

If indeed all politics is local, then surely all carbon footprints are correspondingly individual.

After all, the vast majority of us have two feet, which we use to plod about this earth using energy in various forms and differing degrees.

So can you imagine anything more individually wasteful in burning such energy — with those resulting carbon emissions — than buying and using a holiday home on the other side of the planet?

Equally, can you imagine anything more hypocritical as turning around to lecture other folk about the dreadful environmental damage caused by burning various oils, including, of course, jet fuel?

OK, this isn’t your neighbour we’re discussing here. Nope, instead let’s have a round of hearty applause for that environmental steward, that golly-gosh green giant of Canadian cultural fame, that University of Alberta anointed mega-star, the one and the only David Suzuki.

 

Likely it won’t surprise many Calgarians to learn Suzuki, who has made an extremely good living berating the hoi polloi for their collective, wasteful lifestyles, let slip he’s owned a holiday apartment in Australia for years.

Now if we assume the 82-year-old doesn’t jump from the dock of one of his many B.C. homes and swim the Pacific Ocean to that Port Douglas abode in the Land Down Under, then the carbon footprint involved in a 26,000-kilometre return aircraft trip is staggering.

Just as staggering is the wilful hypocrisy of making such a well-heeled living courtesy of the whole environmental movement, despite being an individual chewing up far more resources than regular Canucks.

That’s what riles people. Regardless of whether you believe the planet’s warming is due to accumulated carbon dioxide or not — I lean that way, but then I once believed Pluto was a planet and the universe’s expansion was slowing because scientists told me such was so — most folk have lives to live and families to provide for.

Which is why people pick employment over the environment. My father’s lungs were a third full of coal dust after 49 years down the pit, but even in retirement there he was, down on the picket line, trying to stop his colliery closing. He knew what it meant to those far younger than him. The environment? Well, that was for rich people to worry about.

But David Suzuki will never understand that. To him and his ilk, this is a morally feel-good game, albeit a richly rewarding one. What better gig than to feel superior yet own five homes in the process? Heck, the U of A should have given the old dodger an honorary degree in snake oil salesmanship.

Just how deep this goes is evident in a recent answer to one of those puffball 20 lame question features that fawning publications reserve for the cultural elite, helping burnish their respective haloes along with the already inflated egos.

What’s the best line you have ever written?” Suzuki was asked, oh so incisively.

“I just repeat what my dad taught me: You are what you do, not what you say,” his answer.

Well, if dad were alive today one imagines Suzuki the Elder would think his offspring an international property developer, rather than the green movement’s answer to Mother Theresa.

And don’t assume when he nips off for a much-needed break to Aussie-land Suzuki is content to dip his tired tootsies in the warm ocean whilst humming Waltzing Matilda.

Heck no: he’s lecturing their citizens and politicians with the same zest he’s perfected here in our Great White North.

When then prime minister Tony Abbott axed a carbon tax, Suzuki figured he should be tossed in the slammer for criminal negligence.

Sound familiar? It should, because once he wanted Stephen Harper similarly jailed for willful blindness over the Canadian PM’s environmental record.

Hey, better yet: Harper could have been shipped in irons to Botany Bay. Then Suzuki could have paid him a visit to break up those dreary vacation blahs. Suitably carrying a green salad for the cameras.

 

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-yes-david-suzuki-you-are-what-you-do

 

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One of the fastest shrinking Greenland glaciers is growing again, NASA says

A natural cyclical cooling of North Atlantic waters likely caused the glacier to reverse course

glacier.1.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=604A fishing boat navigates past icebergs that broke off from the Jakobshavn Glacier on July 23, 2013 in Ilulissat, Greenland.Joe Raedle/Getty Images
By Seth Borenstein.

WASHINGTON — A major Greenland glacier that was one of the fastest shrinking ice and snow masses on Earth is growing again, a new NASA study finds.

The Jakobshavn (YA-cob-shawv-en) glacier around 2012 was retreating about 1.8 miles (3 kilometres) and thinning nearly 130 feet (almost 40 metres) annually. But it started growing again at about the same rate in the past two years, according to a study in Monday’s Nature Geoscience . Study authors and outside scientists think this is temporary.

“That was kind of a surprise. We kind of got used to a runaway system,” said Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland ice and climate scientist Jason Box. “The good news is that it’s a reminder that it’s not necessarily going that fast. But it is going.”

Box, who wasn’t part of the study, said Jakobshavn is “arguably the most important Greenland glacier because it discharges the most ice in the northern hemisphere. For all of Greenland, it is king.”

A natural cyclical cooling of North Atlantic waters likely caused the glacier to reverse course, said study lead author Ala Khazendar, a NASA glaciologist on the Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) project. Khazendar and colleagues say this coincides with a flip of the North Atlantic Oscillation — a natural and temporary cooling and warming of parts of the ocean that is like a distant cousin to El Nino in the Pacific.

 

https://nationalpost.com/news/big-u-turn-key-melting-greenland-glacier-is-growing-again

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