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While I fully understand and support the need to reduce emissions. It needs to be done economically. Simply closing Coal plants and suffering penalties does no one any good when that money could be used elsewhere to reduce the need for the coal fired plant.

If you rely on Coal presently, instead of paying a penalty to close the plant, use the money to build a Nuke Plant. Reduce the need for the coal plant until it is not economical to operate. It is just business after all.

If the Power generation folks would take the proper approach and develop a system where we could use two types of reactor and "recycle" the waste products from the first reactor for use in a second reactor then we would have something.

We on this planet need to start doing stuff smart instead of easy.

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After Ontario announced it was closing the coal fired plants and introducing the disastrous GEA, the power workers union said the coal plants could have been converted to nat gas for 1/10th the cost of the wind/solar/back up plants.

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There's a big conference on climate change supposedly taking place in France at present.

There are 7.5 billion people on this planet, which according to Suzuki is 5 billion souls over its maximum carrying capacity. Other scientists with a more liberal view suggest we're only 3.5 billion over the top. Regardless, the only way we're going to save ourselves from our own waste is to limit our numbers just as we do when we consider animal populations.

No body needs to get off the bus either, we just need to stop reproduction until the numbers become sustainable.

If the best this climate conference can come up with is more nuclear nonsense, it's time to acknowledge the role of the corporatocracy in the planning and how hopeless out environmental situation really is.

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PMjr plus a handful of new ministers (some of whom do not yet have keys to their offices)

Every provincial premier was invited (is there at least one that had the balls to decline?)

Territorial reps

Indian chiefs

City mayors

Opposition leaders and critics (for just what reason is Ellie-May going?)

keep the list going....

If we as a country can still keep functioning during the coming week, then we need to ask, do we need these people?

17 from B.C. alone.

http://www.theprovince.com/technology/sacre+bleu+leaves+carbon+footprint+climate+change+conference/11555658/story.html

Premier Christy Clark is attending with eight others, including videographer Kyle Surovy, events coordinator Anish Dwivedi, communications director Ben Chin and staffer Andrew Ives. Also with Clark is Environment Minister Mary Polak, Polak’s assistant Martina Kapac de Frias, deputy minister Wes Shoemaker, and climate secretariat head Dr. Susanna Laaksonen-Craig.

Federal Green Party Leader and Saanich MP Elizabeth May is travelling with former Green Party candidate Claire Martin.

Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson is attending with his chief of staff Mike Magee, along with Ian McKay, of the Vancouver Economic Commission, Marnie McGregor, the city’s director of intergovernmental relations, Malcolm Shield, the city’s manager of climate policy, and councillor Raymond Louie in his capacity as president of the Federation of Canadian Municipalities.

The Green Party's MLA Andrew Weaver;

Green Party MLA Andrew Weaver said he declined an invitation to attend the event.

“In my view, these negotiations would be best served by having fewer people there, having less in the amount of photo opportunities and far more in terms of actually getting down to substance,” Weaver said.

What is the premier’s delegation going to do? They are not tasked with negotiations, it is a federal jurisdiction. It’s all about photo ops for the premier, nothing more nothing less.”

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Canada announces $10 million to support investments in Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS)\ December 1st, 2015 – Paris, France – Environment Canada and Climate Change Canada

Today, speaking at the launch of the Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS), the Honourable Catherine McKenna, Minister of Environment and Climate Change, announced Canada’s contribution of $10 million to support the improvement early warning systems in some of the most vulnerable communities.

Canada’s contribution will be delivered through the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to improve Multi-Hazard Early Warning Systems in developing countries, particularly the small island developing states and least developed countries. These systems have been proven to reduce loss of life and economic hardship caused by meteorological hazards such as tropical cyclones, floods, severe storms, forest fires, and heat waves.

Today’s announcement is part of Canada’s historic pledge of $2.65 billion over the next five years to support developing countries’ transition to low carbon economies and adapt to the changing climate. This is the most significant Canadian climate finance contribution ever.

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“Over 80 % of natural disasters worldwide are climate-induced. Yet over 80 % of the world’s population does not have access to early warning systems that can help save lives. Better early warning systems, particularly for the most vulnerable countries likesmall island states,that are facing an increasing number of extreme weather and climate events caused by climate change, can make a real difference.”

– The Honourable Catherine McKenna, Minister of Environment and Climate Change

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Canada announces $10 million to support investments in Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS)\ December 1st, 2015 – Paris, France – Environment Canada and Climate Change Canada

Today, speaking at the launch of the Climate Risk and Early Warning Systems (CREWS), the Honourable Catherine McKenna, Minister of Environment and Climate Change, announced Canada’s contribution of $10 million to support the improvement early warning systems in some of the most vulnerable communities.

Canada’s contribution will be delivered through the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) to improve Multi-Hazard Early Warning Systems in developing countries, particularly the small island developing states and least developed countries. These systems have been proven to reduce loss of life and economic hardship caused by meteorological hazards such as tropical cyclones, floods, severe storms, forest fires, and heat waves.Today’s announcement is part of Canada’s historic pledge of $2.65 billion over the next five years to support developing countries’ transition to low carbon economies and adapt to the changing climate. This is the most significant Canadian climate finance contribution ever.

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“Over 80 % of natural disasters worldwide are climate-induced. Yet over 80 % of the world’s population does not have access to early warning systems that can help save lives. Better early warning systems, particularly for the most vulnerable countries likesmall island states,that are facing an increasing number of extreme weather and climate events caused by climate change, can make a real difference.”

– The Honourable Catherine McKenna, Minister of Environment and Climate Change

How is it that a Country like Canada that has to borrow money to pay its bills can afford to give $2.65 billion to other Countries?

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DEFCON,

Your reference to overpopulation reminded me of an old English sociologist (his name escapes me but perhaps some one else remembers?) whose doctrine suggested that even back then (17/18th century) there was not enough food and resources in the world, and in order for them to survive they had to enslave other peoples and plunder their natural resources for themselves, which the English government unfortunately did!

Of course that was not the case, and neither is this one and there is more than enough food and resources in the world to support ALL its inhabitants and even more, were we to work cooperatively and productively. That means however we have to challenge the old way of thinking and habits, and change old principles we accepted as truth.

Likewise, certain "ideas" have been accepted as the undeniable scientific fact whereas the only undeniable scientific fact is that nothing is an undeniable scientific fact and our understanding is in a constant state of flux and evolution. Perhaps what we perceive as "global warming" is truly a disaster borne of our actions, or it could be that in order to make a definitive judgment on the issue we need data over a longer period or that this is simply mother Earth's way of adjustment? At any rate, there is enough resources for everyone were we to share it, which presumably is your message too.

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The problem with any discussion of overpopulation is it misses the point that the only remotely possible solution is either a massive plague or incredible natural disaster. It is quite likely that the portion of the population to be erased would come from those parts of the planet who are the lowest contributors to the problem of global warming in the first place. You may as well cut off your left leg to stop your head from itching.

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The problem is medical science and Biotechnology.

Before modern medicine the life expectancy was just over half what it is now. Through science we have extended that time frame which allows the population to grow. Vaccinations, Medicines and other practices are causing the issue.

Get rid of all of that and eventually natural diseases would reduce the population and slow or cause negative growth.

WE are out own worst enemy.

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Let's not be too hasty here :biggrin2:

I do agree, in part, with what you are saying/advocating but would state that the biggest problem is "birth control" and the reluctance for NOK to "let-go" those that are living an a catatonic/vegetative state with absolutely no hope of recovery.

Quality of life is paramount, in my opinion, and both Scuba 02 and I have made that absolutely clear with each other and our kids. Both Wills indicate in clear and concise language that attitude/wish as well as with DNR in big bold letters.

Further...I am taking a WAG here but sometime down the road.....a long time from now...... family size on the entire planet will be restricted.

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It has to be.

While the design of out economic system is predicated on Growth and continued Growth. It is just not sustainable from a real estate perspective. There is only so much habitable land and so much oxygen to go around.

In an interesting twist that growth will eventually lead to total extinction because we will not have enough oxygen due to a total lack of greenspace that actually converts C02 to O2.

Mother nature had it right until we started cheating. When the population gets to a certain point plague and disease reduce the population to a manageable state. That is the way it is intended. The theory has been proven with Rats. The population controls itself. By interfering with the "natural Order" we have been able to grow (kind of like Cancer) unchecked to a point where even the science will not be able to correct the problem.

This will inevitably lead to over crowding and eventually global war.

There Mother nature will start again....for the umpteenth time. Maybe then she will get it right.

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Kip: making sure your wishes are followed can be quite involved but Alberta has come up with a procedure that removes any doubt. The old DNR no longer covers all.

http://pritchardandcompany.ca/personal-directives-alberta-goals-of-care-and-the-green-sleeve.html


Personal Directives, Alberta Goals of Care and the Green Sleeve

Personal Directive

I have written about the importance of a Personal Directive (PD) forming part of your estate plan in previous columns. A PD allows you to:

  • Choose a person to act as your Health Care Agent (Agent);
  • Give instructions to your Agent about your health care which can include your end of life wishes.

Your PD gives your Agent the authority to make your decisions only when you no longer have the mental capacity to make decisions yourself.

Problem

Most people understand they need a PD and at the same time, are confused about what medical treatment is available when thinking about their end of life decisions (advance care planning). It is important to know the difference between a DNR (do not resuscitate), DNI (do not intubate) and No CPR (no cardio pulmonary resuscitation.

If you are admitted to hospital, you will be asked to provide your instructions about what level of care you want. Admissions to hospital are stressful, especially in chronic illness and end of life situations. It is hard to think carefully and clearly when under this kind of stress. Waiting until this stressful situation occurs is not the best time for you or your family to be thinking about, discussing and making decisions.

It is better to consider your future health care decisions in a less stressful environment. If you are not clear about your wishes, how will your Agent and family, make sure they are following your wishes and instructions? For many reasons, parents and children find it challenging to talk about death and end of life decisions.

Solution

Alberta has set up a province wide program to promote advance care planning. The Goals of Care Designation is an Alberta Health Services form you will complete with your doctor or primary care nurse. In your Goals of Care Designation you will provide instructions to guide medical staff about your future care. The doctor or nurse will write your Goals of Care Designation as a medical order, after speaking with you and/or your Agent. The purpose of the Goals of Care Designation is to allow medical staff to provide care that best reflects your wishes and values, depending on your health condition. Health care involves three general approaches: Medical, Resuscitative, and Comfort. Within each approach there are sub-categories. Talking to your health care team about these approaches will help you complete a Goals of Care Designation that reflects your existing health condition, wishes and values. You can change your Goals of Care Designation in the future, if you choose or if your circumstances change.

Communication

It is important your Agent and family are aware of your Goals of Care Designation so medical staff can be made aware of your wishes in your Goals of Care Designation as soon as possible if you are admitted to hospital. Your completed Goals of Care Designation form and your PD then need to go into a Green Sleeve folder that comes with the your Goals of Care Designation form. The Green Sleeve is recognized by medical teams in Medicine Hat and throughout Alberta. When you go to hospital or access any medical care take your Green Sleeve folder with you and show it to medical staff so they know about your decisions.

AHS recommends you keep your Green Sleeve folder on or near your fridge. Emergency Medical Responders are trained to look for it on your fridge if they are called to your home. You should take your Green Sleeve folder with you when you meet with your health care providers, whether in the hospital or at your doctor’s office.

Conclusion

The British Medical Journal reported on an Australian study which followed a number of patients aged 80 or over for a period of 6 months or until death. Some received standard care while others received the same care plus help with advance care planning in which they were encouraged to document their values and wishes and appoint an Agent. Of the patients who died within the 6 month period, end of life wishes were more likely to be respected in the group that documented their advance care plan. Also, and maybe even more importantly, the families of those patients suffered less stress and anxiety over the decisions that were made.

Health care providers in Medicine Hat have the Goals of Care Designation forms. You can also find them at www.albertahealthservices.ca/ps-1023351-acp-policy-append-a.pdf. Completing this form is an important task for any person who is 18 or older, as end of life decisions may unfortunately happen at any age. The Goals of Care Designation will make it easier for your Agent, family and health care providers to know they are following your wishes and instructions.

For more information on the Goals of Care Designation go to: www.albertahealthservices.ca

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My Dad had a DNR recorded on his wishes - one night it came to that fork in the road and the doctor on-duty came in and asked us what we thought. We knew Dad well enough that this wasn't 'the time'. He lived on for a few more years to enjoy family as much as he was able, and he went quietly one night of his own accord.

Difficult issue. Just like assisted death. It's where we are closest to our humanity and in the end can't be legislated, just guided.

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In Alberta the wish of the patient can not be overruled (except by the person so designated) but the DNR status has been changed and replaced with 3 categories of choice so as to provide greater clarity.

This does remove any family conflict.

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Issues dealing human ethics, such as assisted suicide, abortion, organ donation and the likes are indeed difficult to fully understand and even more difficult to legislate, and until there is a fuller understanding - as cliché as it sounds - on the meaning and purpose of life, they are better to be guided and left to the conscience of the individuals. It all comes down to one's understanding of the purpose of one's life. If one does not believe in afterlife and/or perceives life to be material in nature and for the purpose of health and wealth and pleasuring the senses, then one may be inclined to end it if those conditions are disrupted. If another believes in afterlife and/or perceives life to be a journey spiritual in nature and for service to fellow beings, and spiritual growth to know and draw closer to one's creator, then it is more likely that one endures tests and trials in life for spiritual growth. Not to mention that such tests and trials, physiological (or psychological and spiritual) may be temporary and many have been literally resuscitated back to life to live many more years thereafter. Other than our lives, there are many more good examples in nature attesting to this. One such example is the life of butterfly where some struggle is needed to free itself from the cocoon and in fact if the cocoon was to be opened by an outside force, the butterfly will not be strong enough to survive.

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I guess when you are the new boy on the block, it is good to bring your own friendly crowd with you when travelling.

Smyth: Canada sent 383 people to the U.N. climate conference, more than Australia, the U.K. and U.S. together

‎Today, ‎December ‎3, ‎2015, ‏‎24 minutes ago | Michael Smyth, Postmedia News

The massive Canadian contingent at the UN climate-change conference in Paris was originally estimated at 350 people, but it appears the trans-Atlantic road trip has expanded.

The “provisional list of participants” just released by the UN has an amazing 383 names from Canada, ranking us among the largest entourages in the entire confab.

Don’t nitpick over the newly bloated number, as it’s understandable some jet-setting bureaucrats may have been initially overlooked during such a busy travel period.

If you’ve ever seen the classic Christmas film “Home Alone” you’ll know how easy it is to get the head count wrong during a mad dash to Paris.

“Canada is back, my good friends,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told the conference, and he wasn’t just blowing greenhouse gases.

Canada has sent more people to Paris than Australia (46), the U.K. (96), the U.S. (148), Russia (313) and almost as many as host-country France (396).

Not a bad turnout for a country that emits just 1.6 per cent of the planet’s greenhouse gases, eh?

Or maybe it’s not something to admire when you consider how much polluting fossil fuel was burned to fly so many hundreds of people across the ocean to talk about burning less.

Looking down the list of Canada’s participants in Paris, it’s hard not to conclude we’re vastly over-represented.

Did we really need to send the deputy environment minister for the Northwest Territories? Theclimate-change youth ambassador for the Yukon? The leader of the New Brunswick Green Party? The interim leader of the Bloc Quebecois and his press secretary? The “security co-ordinator” for Hydro-Quebec?

Adrian Wyld / Canadian PressCanadian Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard and Prime Minister Trudeau at a news conference in Paris.

Many of these fine folks are so marginal to the climate-change file that calling them “bit players” would be a stretch.

Premier Christy Clark is there, of course, though critics says she’s just taking credit for someone else’s work. (Former premier Gordon Campbell brought in B.C.’s groundbreaking carbon tax, which Clark promptly froze in 2012).

But while Clark has been called a laggard on the climate-change issue, she’s no slouch when it comes toclimate-change photo-ops.

Clark’s entourage includes her “official photographer” and her “events co-ordinator.” Hey, who could save the planet without them?

Back home, meanwhile, Clark’s “Climate Leadership Team” just reported that the government will fail to meet its own greenhouse-gas reduction targets and called on Clark to double the carbon taxwithin five years.

The government said it won’t do that unless “emission-intensive, trade-exposed” industries are“fully protected” from any tax hikes.

That’s clearly meant as a reassuring signal to the big oil-and-gas companies Clark wants to lure to B.C. to build her promised liquefied natural-gas industry.

But that’s all down the road. For now, it’s time for another climate-change photo-op in Paris.

Mon Dieu, I shudder to think what it’s all costing taxpayers.

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http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/michael-smyth-canadas-massive-paris-contingent-almost-outnumbers-france

Michael Smyth;

The massive Canadian contingent at the UN climate-change conference in Paris was originally estimated at 350 people, but it appears the trans-Atlantic road trip has expanded.

The “provisional list of participants” just released by the UN has an amazing 383 names from Canada, ranking us among the largest entourages in the entire confab.

Don’t nitpick over the newly bloated number, as it’s understandable some jet-setting bureaucrats may have been initially overlooked during such a busy travel period.

If you’ve ever seen the classic Christmas film “Home Alone” you’ll know how easy it is to get the head count wrong during a mad dash to Paris.

“Canada is back, my good friends,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told the conference, and he wasn’t just blowing greenhouse gases.

Canada has sent more people to Paris than Australia (46), the U.K.(96), the U.S. (148), Russia (313) and almost as many as host-country France (396).

Not a bad turnout for a country that emits just 1.6 per cent of the planet’s greenhouse gases, eh?

Or maybe it’s not something to admire when you consider how much polluting fossil fuel was burned to fly so many hundreds of people across the ocean to talk about burning less.

Looking down the list of Canada’s participants in Paris, it’s hard not to conclude we’re vastly over-represented.

Many of Canada’s contingent are so marginal to the climate-change file that calling them “bit players” would be a stretch.

Did we really need to send the deputy environment minister for the Northwest Territories? Theclimate-change youth ambassador for the Yukon? The leader of the New Brunswick Green Party? The interim leader of the Bloc Quebecois and his press secretary? The “security co-ordinator” for Hydro-Quebec?

Many of these fine folks are so marginal to the climate-change file that calling them “bit players” would be a stretch.

Premier Christy Clark is there, of course, though critics says she’s just taking credit for someone else’s work. (Former premier Gordon Campbell brought in B.C.’s groundbreaking carbon tax, which Clark promptly froze in 2012).

But while Clark has been called a laggard on the climate-change issue, she’s no slouch when it comes toclimate-change photo-ops.

Clark’s entourage includes her “official photographer” and her “events co-ordinator.” Hey, who could save the planet without them?

Back home, meanwhile, Clark’s “Climate Leadership Team” just reported that the government will fail to meet its own greenhouse-gas reduction targets and called on Clark to double the carbon taxwithin five years.

The government said it won’t do that unless “emission-intensive, trade-exposed” industries are“fully protected” from any tax hikes.

That’s clearly meant as a reassuring signal to the big oil-and-gas companies Clark wants to lure to B.C. to build her promised liquefied natural-gas industry.

But that’s all down the road. For now, it’s time for another climate-change photo-op in Paris.

Mon Dieu, I shudder to think what it’s all costing taxpayers.

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