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I don't know what you're talking about.

barf.

hangonforaseccrewsarequalifiedaircraftisequipedetopscanbeissuedbytransportusingintercontinentalflight time, basedoncertainrequirements..allis wellat thelittleairlinethatcouldandwill.cheers.the767

'sarefabulousbueatifulandwillbeahit.

barf again.

It was supposed to fly in July. It's great it's finally up in the air, but this was a SNAFU. Sugar coating it or ignoring it doesn't change that fact. The WJ etop plan from Alberta for this winter 15/16 is screwed cause of the 67 problems.

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barf.

barf again.

It was supposed to fly in July. It's great it's finally up in the air, but this was a SNAFU. Sugar coating it or ignoring it doesn't change that fact. The WJ etop plan from Alberta for this winter 15/16 is screwed cause of the 67 problems.

Of course it was. What would you like them to do? There is nothing to be gained from public flagellation.

It's flying, things are good and most of us are pretty excited at the prospects.

As for the winter Hawaii, we shall see. ETOPS certification is the first priority.

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Has WestJet ever had a major project go without delays? Air-res, LiveTV, etc....What they do well is recovering from these issues and getting a product which is successful. This delay is no different than any other and you have to look at the history to see that those making a big deal of this delay aren't looking at the big picture.

Now waiting for those surprised by the inevitable long irrop delay with a one aircraft fleet.

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8 departures and arrivals in 2 days is not too shabby.

Date Aircraft Origin Destination Departure Arrival Duration
2015-Oct-24 B763/Q Calgary Int'l (CYYC) Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) 01:29PM MDT 06:42PM EDT 3:13
2015-Oct-24 B763/Q Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) Calgary Int'l (CYYC) 09:50AM EDT 11:42AM MDT 3:51
2015-Oct-23 B763/Q Calgary Int'l (CYYC) Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) 01:20PM MDT 06:47PM EDT 3:27
2015-Oct-23 B763/Q Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) Calgary Int'l (CYYC) 09:27AM EDT 11:17AM MDT 3:50
2015-Oct-23 B738 Calgary Int'l (CYYC) Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) 01:17AM MDT 06:31AM EDT 3:14
2015-Oct-22 B763/L Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) Calgary Int'l (CYYC) 08:40PM EDT 10:31PM MDT 3:51
2015-Oct-22 B763/Q Calgary Int'l (CYYC) Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) 01:40PM MDT 06:52PM EDT 3:12 2
015-Oct-22 B763/L Toronto Pearson Int'l (CYYZ) Calgary Int'l (CYYC) 09:46AM EDT 11:32AM MDT 3:46

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Two Omni 767's until first week of January will cover the flying.

So far their first flight YYC-HNL on Dec 11 is still shown as being operated by WestJet and not Omni. That will of course need to be changed but I guess any change is pending a signed agreement.

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It may be the first day for Omni but as of today (Nov 20) the WestJet site is still saying that the flight will be operated by WestJet.

Calgary (YYC)
Fri Dec 11 2015, 8:25 AM YYC-HNL WSLEISUREELF
Honolulu, Oahu (HNL)
Fri Dec 11 2015, 12:41 PM
WS 1860
WestJet
Fare type: Flex
Non-stop

Flight details Closei_dialog_close.gif?version=201504271637

Please wait while we load flight details.

Flight
WS 1860
Operated by
WestJet
From
Calgary, AB, CA (YYC)
Total flight duration
7h 16m
To
Honolulu, Oahu, HI, US (HNL)
Total flying time
7h 16m
Departs
Fri Dec 11 2015
Total ground time
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Departs
Calgary, AB, CA (YYC)
Fri Dec 11 2015
8:25 AM
Arrives
Honolulu, Oahu, HI, US (HNL)
Fri Dec 11 2015
12:41 PM
Terminal: MAIN TERMINAL
Equipment
Boeing 767-300
Total miles
3124
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The actual current operations of their 767 are doing very well. Despite average 2 flights a day between YYC and YYZ, there has been only 1 cancellation. Breaking in a new (to WestJet) is never flawless but they are achieving "Damn Close". :Grin-Nod: has anyone taken the ride?

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The aircraft and crews are doing 3 to 4 OWs between yyc and yyz daily, 34 since Nov 10 with only one cancellation. Curious re the crewing, does the same crew do the entire daily cycle or? Has any seen any passenger feedback re their experience? Cheers

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WestJet given approval for Omni to provide an aircraft.

Decision No. 361-A-2015
November 24, 2015

APPLICATION by WestJet, on behalf of itself and Omni Air International, Inc. also carrying on business as Omni Air Express (Omni Air), pursuant to section 60 of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, as amended, and section 8.2 of the Air Transportation Regulations, SOR/88-58, as amended.

Case Number:
15-05275
APPLICATION

WestJet, on behalf of itself and Omni Air, has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an approval to permit WestJet to provide its scheduled international service between Canada and the United States of America using two aircraft with flight crew provided by Omni Air, beginning on December 11, 2015 to January 9, 2016.

WestJet has also requested an exemption from the application of subsection 8.2(2) of the Air Transportation Regulations (ATR), which requires the filing of an application for an approval at least 45 days before the first planned flight. The Agency finds that compliance with subsection 8.2(2) of the ATR is impractical in this case. Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 80(1)(c) of the Canada Transportation Act (CTA), exempts WestJet from the application of subsection 8.2(2) of the ATR.

WestJet is licensed to operate a scheduled international service in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007.

POLICY

When assessing wet-lease applications where Canadian carriers propose to enter into wet-lease arrangements of more than 30 days with foreign carriers to provide international passenger services, the Agency must apply a direction issued by the Minister of Transport on June 24, 2014 entitled Ministerial Direction for International Service – Canada's Policy for Wet-Leasing (2014 Wet-Lease Policy).

The current application is for approval for a period of 29 days, therefore the 2014 Wet-Lease Policy does not apply.

The Agency has considered the application and the material in support and is satisfied that it meets the remaining requirements of section 8.2 of the ATR.

Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 60(1)(b) of the CTA and section 8.2 of the ATR, approves the use by WestJet of aircraft with flight crew provided by Omni Air, and the provision by Omni Air of such aircraft and flight crew to WestJet, to permit WestJet to provide its scheduled international service on licensed routes between Canada and the United States of America using two aircraft and flight crew provided by Omni Air, beginning on December 11, 2015 to January 9, 2016.

These approvals are subject to the following conditions:

  1. WestJet shall continue to hold the valid licence authority.
  2. Commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by WestJet. Omni Air shall maintain operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula.
  3. WestJet and Omni Air shall continue to comply with the insurance requirements set out in subsections 8.2(4), 8.2(5) and 8.2(6) of the ATR.
  4. WestJet shall continue to comply with the public disclosure requirements set out in section 8.5 of the ATR.
  5. WestJet and Omni Air shall advise the Agency in advance of any changes to the information provided in support of the application.
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As far as I know there's a 'rule of thumb' respecting minimum fleet size, it's 3. I recall CP's wanting to purchase two 747's way back, but were convinced by Boeing that a minimum of three of the type were required to ensure the integrity of the schedule. Keeping two aircraft flying, especially older ones, from a maintenance perspective will present some challenges for Omni & WJ I think?

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WestJet given approval for Omni to provide an aircraft.

Decision No. 361-A-2015
November 24, 2015

APPLICATION by WestJet, on behalf of itself and Omni Air International, Inc. also carrying on business as Omni Air Express (Omni Air), pursuant to section 60 of the Canada Transportation Act, S.C., 1996, c. 10, as amended, and section 8.2 of the Air Transportation Regulations, SOR/88-58, as amended.

Case Number:
15-05275
APPLICATION

WestJet, on behalf of itself and Omni Air, has applied to the Canadian Transportation Agency (Agency) for an approval to permit WestJet to provide its scheduled international service between Canada and the United States of America using two aircraft with flight crew provided by Omni Air, beginning on December 11, 2015 to January 9, 2016.

WestJet has also requested an exemption from the application of subsection 8.2(2) of the Air Transportation Regulations (ATR), which requires the filing of an application for an approval at least 45 days before the first planned flight. The Agency finds that compliance with subsection 8.2(2) of the ATR is impractical in this case. Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 80(1)(c) of the Canada Transportation Act (CTA), exempts WestJet from the application of subsection 8.2(2) of the ATR.

WestJet is licensed to operate a scheduled international service in accordance with the Air Transport Agreement between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States of America signed on March 12, 2007.

POLICY

When assessing wet-lease applications where Canadian carriers propose to enter into wet-lease arrangements of more than 30 days with foreign carriers to provide international passenger services, the Agency must apply a direction issued by the Minister of Transport on June 24, 2014 entitled Ministerial Direction for International Service – Canada's Policy for Wet-Leasing (2014 Wet-Lease Policy).

The current application is for approval for a period of 29 days, therefore the 2014 Wet-Lease Policy does not apply.

The Agency has considered the application and the material in support and is satisfied that it meets the remaining requirements of section 8.2 of the ATR.

Accordingly, the Agency, pursuant to paragraph 60(1)(b) of the CTA and section 8.2 of the ATR, approves the use by WestJet of aircraft with flight crew provided by Omni Air, and the provision by Omni Air of such aircraft and flight crew to WestJet, to permit WestJet to provide its scheduled international service on licensed routes between Canada and the United States of America using two aircraft and flight crew provided by Omni Air, beginning on December 11, 2015 to January 9, 2016.

These approvals are subject to the following conditions:

  1. WestJet shall continue to hold the valid licence authority.
  2. Commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by WestJet. Omni Air shall maintain operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula.
  3. WestJet and Omni Air shall continue to comply with the insurance requirements set out in subsections 8.2(4), 8.2(5) and 8.2(6) of the ATR.
  4. WestJet shall continue to comply with the public disclosure requirements set out in section 8.5 of the ATR.
  5. WestJet and Omni Air shall advise the Agency in advance of any changes to the information provided in support of the application.
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Sounds Expensive. When is the second desert dawg supposed to show up ??

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