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BCC EQUIPMENT LEASING CORP · SEATTLE WA (registration)
Chennault Intl (KCWFinfo)
Lake Charles, LA
Calgary Int'l (CYYCinfo)
Calgary, Alberta CA
10:17PM CDT
01:10AM MDT (+1)
Scheduled: 05:00PM CDT Scheduled: 07:52PM MDT
Duration: 3 hours 52 minutes
Wednesday, 26 August 2015
Note the proposed service between YYZ and Montego Bay, will the aircraft and crews be based in YYZ or ?
e Canadian Press
Published Thursday, August 27, 2015 4:07AM EDT
Last Updated Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:58AM EDT

CALGARY - WestJet (TSX:WJA) has taken delivery of the first of four Boeing 767-300 extended range aircraft it has ordered to begin flights to Europe and elsewhere starting next month.

The four aircraft will arrive separately over the next eight months. The first one which arrived today will fly between Toronto and Calgary over the next several months.

Two more 767s will fly from Alberta to Hawaii and between Toronto and Montego Bay, Jamaica beginning in December.\

The fourth and final aircraft, which features 262 seats and a flying range of about 11 hours, will arrive next spring to launch WestJet's new service to London, England in May 2016.

WestJet reported record earnings in its second quarter in late July, thanks to falling fuel costs and a rising number of passengers.

WestJet earned a second-quarter profit of $61.6 million, up from $51.8 million in the same period last year while revenue grew more than $12 million to $942 million.

Flight details CLOSE
Flight
WS 2702
Operated by
WestJet
From
Toronto, ON, CA (YYZ)
Total flight duration
4h 11m
To
Montego Bay, JM (MBJ)
Total flying time
4h 11m
Departs
Sat Dec 12 2015
Total ground time
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Departs
Toronto, ON, CA (YYZ)
Sat Dec 12 2015
10:45 AM
Terminal: TERMINAL 3
Arrives
Montego Bay, JM (MBJ)
Sat Dec 12 2015
2:56 PM
Equipment
Boeing 767-300
Total miles
1730
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Media Advisory - Media invited to tour WestJet's first 767 today

CALGARY, Aug. 27, 2015 /CNW/ - WestJet invites members of the media to tour the airline's first Boeing 767-300 ER aircraft today at its Calgary hangar. The aircraft, the first of four wide-body aircraft to arrive over the next eight months, landed in Calgary earlier this morning.

WHAT: Tour of exterior and interior of WestJet's first Boeing 767 aircraft

WHEN: TODAY, Thursday, August 27, 2015, at 12 noon MDT

WHERE: WestJet hangar, 22 Aerial Place NE, Calgary, AB

NOTE: Please report to the WestJet welcome desk in the lobby of the Fred Ring (main campus office) Building to check in prior to being escorted to the hangar. WestJet executives will be available for interviews about the aircraft.

BACKGROUND:

Featuring a new teal and blue maple leaf-themed logo that will eventually appear on all WestJet aircraft, the airline's 767s seat 262 guests and have a range of approximately 11 hours. The aircraft will include a Plus cabin with 24 premium seats in a two-by-two configuration, hot meals and all of the other amenities associated with Plus. The main cabin has 238 seats, with two seats on either side of the aircraft and three in the middle. By next spring all four 767s will be equipped with WestJet Connect, the airline's new inflight entertainment and wireless connectivity system.

The four aircraft will arrive separately over the next eight months. The aircraft that arrived yesterday will begin service in September and operate flights between Toronto and Calgary for the next several months. With the arrival of two additional wide-bodies this fall, the 767s will be flying from Alberta to Hawaii and between Toronto and Montego Bay, Jamaica beginning in December. The fourth and final aircraft will arrive next spring just prior to the launch of WestJet's new service to London (Gatwick) in May 2016.

Following discussions over the summer with airports across the country, the airline will announce the Canadian cities from which it will operate its summer schedule, including to London, in mid-September.

A computer-generated video featuring air-to-air, exterior and interior footage of WestJet's new 767 aircraft is available atyoutube.com/westjet.

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Flight

WS 1860

Operated by

WestJet

From

Calgary, AB, CA (YYC)

Total flight duration

7h 16m

To

Honolulu, Oahu, HI, US (HNL)

Total flying time

7h 16m

Departs

Fri Dec 11 2015

Total ground time

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Departs

Calgary, AB, CA (YYC)

Fri Dec 11 2015

8:25 AM

Arrives

Honolulu, Oahu, HI, US (HNL)

Fri Dec 11 2015

12:41 PM

Terminal: MAIN TERMINAL

Equipment

Boeing 767-300

Total miles

3124

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They aren't getting to Hawaii without 180 min ETOPS.

Unless they take the long way, via San Francisco. I recall that could be done with a 120 minute permit. Which would knock the poop out of profits, but on the other hand, go a long ways to reducing the 180 minute wait. I would think...

Been awhile though. Maybe they'll get it based on current service with the -800's?

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How is crew selection for the new aircraft made, just out of curiosity. I understand if nobody wants to discuss it! :wink_smile:

Edit: ...and, no, NO, I am not looking for work!!!!

It's the "S" word, Moon.

We do like to avoid seniority when possible but nobody else could figure out another way to do it :Scratch-Head:

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Unless they take the long way, via San Francisco. I recall that could be done with a 120 minute permit. Which would knock the poop out of profits, but on the other hand, go a long ways to reducing the 180 minute wait. I would think...

Been awhile though. Maybe they'll get it based on current service with the -800's?

Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval
C.1 General
This appendix is a means to identify factors which Transport Canada may consider to allow a reduction or substitution of the operator inservice experience requirements prior to granting ETOPS Operational Approval.
An excellent propulsion related service safety record for two-engine aeroplanes has been maintained since the introduction of ETOPS. Current data indicates that the ETOPS process benefits are achievable without extensive inservice experience. Therefore, reduction or elimination of inservice experience requirements may be possible when the operator demonstrates that adequate and validated ETOPS processes are in place.
The Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval Program with reduced inservice experience does not imply that a reduction of existing levels of safety will be tolerated but rather acknowledges that an operator may satisfy the objectives of TP6327 by an equivalent means when considering demonstrated operator capability.
This appendix permits an operator to start ETOPS when the operator has established that those processes necessary for successful ETOPS operations are in place and are considered to be reliable. It should be emphasized that failure to meet the established criteria, milestones or reliability levels may result in the losing of the ETOPS Accelerated Operational Approval.
C.2 Policy
C.2.1 ETOPS Process
The airframe-engine combination for which the operator is seeking Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval must be ETOPS Type Design approved. The operator must demonstrate that it has a program in place to address the process elements identified in this section.
The following are the ETOPS process elements:
a) Airframe/engine compliance to Type Design Build Standard (CMP)
Compliance with the Maintenance Requirements (TP6327 Chp.4), requiring the following proven ETOPS programs to be in place:
1. Fully developed Maintenance Program, including tracking and control;
2. Oil consumption monitoring;
3. Engine condition monitoring;
4. Reliability;
5. Propulsion system monitoring; operator to establish a program that results in a high degree of confidence that the propulsion system reliability appropriate to the ETOPS diversion time will be maintained;
6. Training and qualification for maintenance personnel;
7. ETOPS parts control;
8. Aircraft discrepancy resolution.
c) Compliance with the Flight Operations Program for ETOPS (TP6327 Chp.3) which must address:
1. Flight planning and dispatch programs;
2. Availability of meteorological information;
3. Minimum Equipment List considering ETOPS;
4. Initial and recurrent training and checking program for flight operations personnel;
5. Flight crew and dispatch personnel familiarity with routes, and requirements for, and selection of, en route alternates.
d) Documentation of the following elements:
1. Technology new to the operator and significant differences in primary and secondary power (engines, electrical, hydraulic and pneumatic) systems between the aeroplanes currently operated and the aeroplanes for which the operator is seeking Accelerated ETOPS Approval.
2. The plan to train flight and maintenance personnel to the differences identified in 1) above.
3. The plan to use proven or manufacturer validated Training, Maintenance & Operations Manual procedures relevant to ETOPS for the aeroplane.
4. Changes to any previously proven or manufacturer validated Training, Maintenance or Operations Manual procedures described above. Depending on the nature of the changes, the operator may be required to provide a plan for validating such changes.
5. Details of any ETOPS program support from the airframe manufacturer, engine manufacturer, other operators or any other outside agency.
6. The control procedures when maintenance or flight dispatch support is provided by an outside party as described above.
C.2.2 Application
Operators shall submit an "Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval Plan" to Transport Canada 6 months before the proposed start of operations. This period will give an opportunity for the operator to incorporate any refinements that may be required to achieve an Accelerated Approval.
The operator's application for accelerated ETOPS should:
a) define proposed routes and necessary diversion times;
define processes and resources allocated to initiate and sustain ETOPS;
c) identify plan for establishing and maintaining ETOPS build standard compliance;
d) document plan for compliance with items outlined in Paragraph C2.1;
e) define Review Gates (a Review Gate is a milestone tracking plan to allow to define the tasks and timing for the necessary tasks to be accomplished); items for which TCA visibility or approval is sought should be included in the Review Gates.
C.2.3 Operational Approvals
Operators will be considered on individual merit and capability (case-by-case basis). Accelerated ETOPS approval is not guaranteed and operators should await approval prior to planning revenue extended range operations.
Operational approvals which are granted with reduced inservice experience should be limited to those areas agreed by TCA contained within the Accelerated ETOPS Approval Plan. Should the operator wish to add or expand the request TCA concurrence is required.
Operators may be eligible for ETOPS Operational Approval up to the Type Design Approval limit.
C.2.4 Process Validation
The operator should demonstrate that the process, discussed in paragraph C2.1, is in place and functions as intended. This may be accomplished by thorough documentation and analysis, or by demonstration on an aircraft (simulation).
If an operator is currently operating ETOPS on different equipment only minimal documentation may be necessary.
The following elements are beneficial in justifying a reduction in the validation requirements of the ETOPS process:
a) Experience with other similar airframes and or engines.
Previous ETOPS experience.
c) Long range, overwater operational experience.
d) Flight crew, maintenance and flight dispatch personnel experience with ETOPS.
A process may be validated initially by demonstration on a different aeroplane type. It is then necessary to demonstrate that means are in place to assure equivalent results occur on the aeroplane being proposed for accelerated ETOPS.
Any validation program should address the following:
a) Assurance that the validation program will not be allowed to adversely impact actual safety of operations especially during periods of abnormal, emergency, or high cockpit workload operations. It should emphasize that during these abnormal situations that the validation exercise may be terminated.
A means to monitor and report performance with respect to accomplishment of tasks associated with ETOPS process elements. Any changes to ETOPS maintenance and operational process elements should be defined.
C.2.5 Accelerated ETOPS Surveillance
Operators must be aware that any deficiencies associated with engineering and maintenance programs, flight dispatch or flight crew performance may result in the rejection of, amendment to, the claimed credit for reduced in-service experience.
Therefore, an accelerated program leading to an Operational Approval is considered feasible so long as the operators retain commitment to the standards which are contained in their ETOPS Operational Approval Plan and associated programs. During the first year of operation close monitoring will be exercised.
C.2.6 Minimum Requirements
As detailed in Chapter 3 the basic operational experience requirement for a given aircraft/engine combination is:
a) 12 months operation for 120 minute approval;
3 months of 120 minute ETOPS experience for 138 minute approval; and
c) 12 months of 120 minute or greater ETOPS experience for greater than 138 minutes.
The Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval allows a reduction in service experience related to the degree that the operator ETOPS program can be validated and performance assured. The typical operational experience requirements for a given aircraft-engine combination is:
a) Nil experience for 75 minutes (ETOPS CMP and program in place);
3 months ETOPS experience for 90 minute approval; and
c) 6 months ETOPS experience for 120 minute approval.
All inservice experience requirements noted above assume acceptable performance. Operator ETOPS program difficulties may require additional inservice experience and/or remove the eligibility for Accelerated ETOPS Operational Approval.
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Has the aircraft commenced service on the yyc-yyz route?

I was told today that the aircraft hasn't entered service yet.

Maintenance issues of some sort, I am wondering if it is the aircraft and import, or if it is regulatory with Transport ??

Can't imagine it arriving YYC with anything serious after refurb.

With ETOPS proving still to go, the pucker factor may be increasing with the planned Hawaii ops.

At any rate, not the best performance, having an aircraft of that cost and stature not out generating any revenue Eh Bean ???

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I was told today that the aircraft hasn't entered service yet.

Maintenance issues of some sort, I am wondering if it is the aircraft and import, or if it is regulatory with Transport ??

Can't imagine it arriving YYC with anything serious after refurb.

With ETOPS proving still to go, the pucker factor may be increasing with the planned Hawaii ops.

At any rate, not the best performance, having an aircraft of that cost and stature not out generating any revenue Eh Bean ???

Skyservice took a very serious look at a pair of these ex-Qantas 767 (2006?) with a full engineering team working in Victorville. I can't recall the complete details but the project ended when a gap in aircraft logbook entries could not be confirmed by either Qantas or the owners of the aircraft at the time. Hopefully not the case here but perhaps just unexpected red tape.

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Skyservice took a very serious look at a pair of these ex-Qantas 767 (2006?) with a full engineering team working in Victorville. I can't recall the complete details but the project ended when a gap in aircraft logbook entries could not be confirmed by either Qantas or the owners of the aircraft at the time. Hopefully not the case here but perhaps just unexpected red tape.

After 100,000 hours, there was a reason they were sitting in the desert would be my guess.

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HMY took delivery of two former El Al 757's back in 2002 only to find their maintenance checks had been fudged by the US company getting them ready for Canadian service. So much so, the HMY (former C3) maintenance folks doing their approval inspection down in the boneyard, would not fly on them.

Hopefully that is an extreme example and the Qantas machines are just paperwork delays.

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Post/wire say WestJet mulls Asian routes if U.K. works

Tue Sep 29, 2015 - Stockwatch.com

The Financial Post reports in its Tuesday edition WestJet Airlines is looking to add long-haul destinations as far afield as Asia and North Africa if routes to the United Kingdom prove a success. A Bloomberg dispatch to the Post says WestJet is preparing to expand operations to London's Gatwick Airport. The new routes, due to start in May, 2016, mark a "much bigger step" in the airline's development of a low-cost long-haul network, according to chief executive officer Gregg Saretsky. "Canada is nicely geographically situated to get -- in 11 hours -- to almost every business centre in the world; we can make Asia, we can make continental Europe, Latin America, North Africa. Clearly we haven't disclosed what's next, but all of those are possibilities." WestJet's foray into Europe positions the discount carrier to go head-to-head with Air Canada on long-haul routes. The airline is still refining its model for longer distances, though the traditional low-cost premise of starting with a minimal base fare and allowing customers to add on ancillary services like checked-baggage and food is a logical starting point. WestJet's first transcontinental flight was Dublin from St. John's using a Boeing 737 in June, 2014.

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RE the 767. No record of any flights beyond the one that brought it to YYC. Evidently the aircraft was to be remaked as C-FOGJ but to date the Transport Canada site does not show Westjet as owning any B767s.

http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/CCARCS-RIACC/RchHs.aspx

Another site is saying that there have yet to be any training flights. Is this correct and if so does anyone know why? Curious as the first sked to HNL was to be in Dec but time is getting very short for the necessary flights to gain ETOPS certification.the plan if I understood it correctly was to have the aircraft operate YYC-YYZ-YYC to log the necessary hours.

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