John S. Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Top Stories Air Canada flight leaves runway in Halifax, no major injuriesCBC.ca - 13 minutes agoPlane exits runway at Halifax's Stanfield Airport: Air CanadaCTV NewsPlane crashes while landing at Halifax airportTheChronicleHerald.ca (registration) Notice how different the various headlines are?Standing by for the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 More pics and vid...http://rt.com/news/244953-air-canada-crash-halifax/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaster Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Well Hopefully the Powers that be will get off there A#@E and Wallet and use some of that hard earned passenger money and install an ILS on RWY 05. Anyone who has any experience with YHZ I'm sure would say the same!! Longggg overdue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Anyone believe the old adage........it always happens in 3s???Are we waiting for the third ??? Wonder how more distorted the future news reports will be???Glad no one hurt......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 CNN"Air Canada plane comes off runway in Nova Scotia during 'hard landing'"Video with a calm report...weather looks snowy.(((INet photos show nose cone gone, substantial damage of starboard elevator and right wing.Has been reported that plane clipped power line prior to landing short of rwy 05.))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp fa Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hopefully everyone is okay. This will be a difficult day for everyone involved.Thinking of the crew and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It's early of course, but there does appear to be a similar theme here with the recent Jazz incident in YAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Reports say they held for 30 minutes prior to an approach attempt. What were the weather conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pivot Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 54 kt of wind at 4:00Z! Wow. If it happened at 03:35Z the wind chill would have been around -19 for everyone standing outside. Hope the passengers were dressed for winter.CYHZ 290400Z 34019G54KT 3/4SM R14/5000VP6000FT/D -SN DRSN BKN007 OVC010 M06/M07 A2964 RMK SF7SC1 SLP045CYHZ 290313Z 35020G26KT 1/2SM R14/3500V4500FT/N SN DRSN VV003 M06/M07 A2963 RMK SN8 SLP040CYHZ 290300Z CCA 34019G25KT 1/4SM R14/P6000VM0300FT/N +SN DRSN VV003 M06/M07 A2962 RMK SN8 /S09/ SLP038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchman Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 According to the weather reports on AVHerald, not very good. Non-Precision Approach (shame on Nav Canada or CYHZ for continuing to ignore this for so long), 1/4-1/2mile vis in moderate to heavy snow, RVR on 14 6000 variable to 300 ft., 45 degree crosswind gusting to 25, snow covered runway. Boy... there was a LOT of damage to that aircraft. Truly lucky no one was killed.http://avherald.com/h?article=483e7337&opt=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Twenty five in hospital after Air Canada flight slides off Halifax runway Mar 29, 2015 01:49:00 AMHalifax airport says 25 passengers who were on board an Air Canada jet were taken to hospital after a flight from Toronto skidded off a runway as it landed today.The airline released a different figure for the number of injured passengers from the Airbus A320, saying 23 were taken to hospital for observation and treatment of minor injuries.Air Canada says in statements there were 133 passengers and five crew members aboard flight AC624, which left Toronto just before 9 p.m. Saturday for a scheduled midnight landing at Halifax Stanfield International Airport.The Halifax area was experiencing blizzard conditions Saturday night and into Sunday.Air Canada could not be reached for comment.Airport spokesman Peter Spurway says the aircraft touched down at about 12:35 a.m. in the stormy conditions and none of the injuries were considered life threatening.http://www.660news.com/2015/03/29/twenty-five-in-hospital-after-air-canada-flight-slides-off-halifax-runway/Less sensational BBC story Air Canada plane 'exits' Halifax runway while landing6 hours ago From the sectionUS & CanadaAll 132 passengers on board the Airbus A320 have left the planeAn Air Canada aeroplane has "exited" the runway while landing at Halifax airport, the airline says.All 132 passengers on board the A320 Airbus have left the plane, with 25 taken to hospital for observation and treatment of minor injuries.Flight AC624 from Toronto arrived shortly after midnight (04:00 GMT) and reportedly hit a power pylon after landing.The airport is shut with no inbound or outbound flights.Power at Halifax Stanfield Airport was knocked out but Nova Scotia Power say that it has been restored.There was heavy snow in the area at the time and visibility was poor."An aircraft made a poor landing," confirmed airport spokesman Peter Spurway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadairguy Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I see that 05 and 32 both offer LPV approaches. Non-precision approaches admittedly but with decision heights of 257 and 254 ft pretty good NPAs. That's a rough crosswind on 05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pivot Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 From the picture, would that red piece that punctured the Captain's side of the nose be part of the localizer transmitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 With that wind, was RWY 32 not available? The gust factor exceeded the demonstrated crosswind limit by a wide margin. There may also be a possibility of a windshear event on RWY 05. The regulator report may shed some light on this. Thank you lord, for it could have been much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Boy... there was a LOT of damage to that aircraft. Truly lucky no one was killed.http://avherald.com/h?article=483e7337&opt=0 You could say that again! Good grief! .... Musta had one of the boys from DEI in the cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deicer Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Hi Res Pics....https://www.flickr.com/photos/tsbcanada/sets/72157651565742766/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
props2you Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Looks like a write-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Looks like a write-off.Nothing lots of "Speed Tape" couldn't fix. But it does prove that the A320 is a tougher beast than a lot of folks thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 CAUTION....If one wants to reference AVHERALD I would suggest you read that sites FAQs....... particularly the last QUESTION concerning using their information.The statement Simon uses is not exactly clear but we don't want anyone here getting charged with borrowing his information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaEH Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Nothing lots of "Speed Tape" couldn't fix. But it does prove that the A320 is a tougher beast than a lot of folks thought. "It" does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airt Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've been flying in/out of YHZ for almost 30 years.I'm thinking most of us that go in there are familiar with 05. There are some funky things that happen close in on this approach when the wind is strong. My theory attributes the local topography , not helped by the berm they built , combined with a certain wind direction results in significant airspeed/altitude variations. More than once I have had to add LARGE amounts of thrust about a mile back.Not saying any of this has anything to do with what happened. Just some personal observations.If I had my druthers , I would prefer they put an ILS on 32 despite the shorter runway. You don't need it often but when you do , you need it bad and I have not experienced the same variations on approach to this runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIP Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've been flying in/out of YHZ for almost 30 years.I'm thinking most of us that go in there are familiar with 05. There are some funky things that happen close in on this approach when the wind is strong. My theory attributes the local topography , not helped by the berm they built , combined with a certain wind direction results in significant airspeed/altitude variations. More than once I have had to add LARGE amounts of thrust about a mile back.Not saying any of this has anything to do with what happened. Just some personal observations.If I had my druthers , I would prefer they put an ILS on 32 despite the shorter runway. You don't need it often but when you do , you need it bad and I have not experienced the same variations on approach to this runway.Why not an ILS on 05 AND 32 ????Instead of turning the terminal into a shopping mall that is esthetically pleasing how about some proper infrastructure.Many airports in Canada in the same dire need of this (CYOW at the top of my list). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 CDN smacked the tail of a 767 on that runway as well.Agree with airt...even with the T-Rex, there were times when "gusto" power was required to get "over the hill". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Does seem to be a windshear event. The hangars on the north side wouldn't make that strong crosswind any easier to handle either. Why on earth they used 05 is my question. Was 32 closed because of snow? Glad no fatalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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