manwest Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Just wondering if news of the status of WestJet's 767s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 http://blog.westjet.com/adding-boeing-767-300-aircraft-fleet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Are there enough destinations and traffic out of this Country for WJ to avoid head to head competition with AC's 787s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinghigh Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Someday it might just be WJ 787's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightlevels Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 We will have more info mid March on firm delivery dates. So far the plan is to have the first one flying in July with the next one coming in October then possibly another in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 We will have more info mid March on firm delivery dates. So far the plan is to have the first one flying in July with the next one coming in October then possibly another in November.firm delivery dates in march and the first one up and flying in July. Sounds like an aggressive training schedule. New aircraft type, new destinations etc.Just curious how will the crews for the new aircraft be selected? Seniority, appointment etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 WJ's first 737-200 was delivered into YYC from Roswell via Great Falls in early Feb 96 with the first revenue flights less than a month later. The 767 program looks pretty conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightlevels Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 firm delivery dates in march and the first one up and flying in July. Sounds like an aggressive training schedule. New aircraft type, new destinations etc.Just curious how will the crews for the new aircraft be selected? Seniority, appointment etc?The standing bid just closed and was awarded via seniority. (lots of senior types bidding on it)There were 3 standards pilots (A authority) previously selected. (not included in the bid)The 767 CP Along with one of the standards pilots - have been working on the project for a while now and have completed their PPC in Miami last month. The next two standards pilots are scheduled for training later in the spring along with the first two crews of regular line guys. I'm hearing approximately 40 crews will be the total trained (for now) pending a/c utilization.The next bid will have the majority of crews being selected and assigned training dates for this summer.The 4th 67 is scheduled to arrive in the spring of 2016 for flying in that summer.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Was WJ's expansion planning a little too conservative back when the opportunity to order 787’s was present? Competing against AC’s 787’s with old 763’s is certain to increase WJ’s overall CASM in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 thanks Flightlevels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Was WJ's expansion planning a little too conservative back when the opportunity to order 787’s was present?Competing against AC’s 787’s with old 763’s is certain to increase WJ’s overall CASM in a big way.Maybe when it comes to fuel cost but not lease payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Was WJ's expansion planning a little too conservative back when the opportunity to order 787s was present?Competing against ACs 787s with old 763s is certain to increase WJs overall CASM in a big way.Just like competing with 25 year old 737-200's vs 5 year old Airbus narrow bodies, eh?WJ has a pretty good handle on how to run between the competitions legs.Every 787 used to chase lower yield passengers is one less 787 available to compete head to head against other 787 operators chasing high yield passengers needed to support the high cost structure. I guess it comes down to how you want to manage high capital cost assets.I doubt Nordstrom at Chinook Center will be focussing it's business on recapturing the Sears crowd that shopped in that same real estate for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 N324BC ferried to AAR in Lake Charles on Friday as SXA1205. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakelad Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 .WestJet to operate Boeing 767 on Alberta-Hawaii flightsWednesday March 04 2015 - News ReleaseMr. Chris Avery reportsE KOMO MAI (WELCOME) ABOARD WESTJET'S BOEING 767Flights between Alberta and Hawaii beginning in December are available forbooking on WestJet Airlines Ltd.'s newly acquired Boeing 767 wide-bodyaircraft. The Boeing 767, the first in the WestJet fleet, will operatebetween Calgary and Honolulu, between Calgary and Maui and between Edmontonand Maui."Offering non-stop, wide-body service between Alberta and Hawaii representsan important next step in our international strategy," said Chris Avery,WestJet vice-president, network planning, alliances and corporatedevelopment. "This December, WestJet guests who choose the popular routeswill benefit from our comfortable 767s. Additional on-board products andservices, such as hot meals and unique in-flight entertainment options, willcontinue to evolve as we get closer to launch, with an eye to providingexcellent value and a fun, friendly, people-driven guest experience."The Boeing 767s are configured with 24 seats in Plus, offering wider seatswith more recline in a two-two-two configuration, meaning each set of twoseats is separated by an aisle. There are 238 seats in the main cabin, andall seats have access to power for personal electronic devices such astablets or phones."These aircraft will be redeployed in summer 2016 to new and excitinginternational destinations that will be announced later this year," concludedMr. Avery.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 I see the AC 767-300 (config 1) is saying their config is:Number of Seats 25 166 Configuration 1-1-1 2-3-2 Rows 1-9 12-3and Rouge is: AC 767 config 2 Premium rouge(Premium Economy cabin) rouge Number of Seats 18 246 Configuration 2-2-2 2 - 3 - 2 Rows 1-3 12 to 47 So I guess Westjet is configured to take on Rouge and not AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 WJ's WB's were in the plan long before Rouge was tantalizing the neurons of anyone in Montreal.The last paragraph is very intriguing, wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 WJ's WB's were in the plan long before Rouge was tantalizing the neurons of anyone in Montreal.The last paragraph is very intriguing, wouldn't you say?If so then they sure took a long time to materialize while farming the flying out to TC. it will be interesting to see how the one aircraft handles the flying necessary to serve the city pairs shown in the list. I wonder what will be used as a backup in the case of a mechanical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 It took WJ, what, close to 5 years to make an appearance in the largest market in Canada. WJ does things the, slow, methodical way. The strategy has yet to fail them.The international destinations mentioned will be launched the summer of 2016. By that time, they'll be operating 3 + 1. That sort of redundancy should make life tolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYCMatt Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 If so then they sure took a long time to materialize while farming the flying out to TC. it will be interesting to see how the one aircraft handles the flying necessary to serve the city pairs shown in the list. I wonder what will be used as a backup in the case of a mechanical?The plan is to have 2 by December. Same setup as Thomas Cook. 3&4 will come early 2016 I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I've been away from the ETOPS world for a number of years now. Perhaps a question out of ignorance of current requirements: Does not a company need to demonstrate a maintenance reliability record in order to receive the OC for ETOPS? It used to take up to a year.As an aside, for all 763 operators, tail strikes occur mostly on landings.Soyez prudent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I've been away from the ETOPS world for a number of years now. Perhaps a question out of ignorance of current requirements: Does not a company need to demonstrate a maintenance reliability record in order to receive the OC for ETOPS? It used to take up to a year.As an aside, for all 763 operators, tail strikes occur mostly on landings.Soyez prudent!Not sure if this is what you are talking about but ... Safety Criteria for Approval of Extended Range Twin-Engine Operations (ETOPS)https://www.tc.gc.ca/Publications/en/tp6327/pdf/hr/tp6327e.pdf3.2 OPERATIONAL APPROVAL CONSIDERATIONS 3.2.1 BENIGN AREA OF OPERATION a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaEH Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think it's closer to 90 days now, Moon. Based on timelines I've seen for delivery and first flights (domestic) to expected Hawaii ops the timeline is around 120 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I believe 3 months on new type for an operator that already have ETOPS on another type. I stand corrected. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Thanks for that. Makes sense especially if using a highly experienced aircraft and previous type specific ETOPS. The 763 is a great aircraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Number two is N328BC, formerly VH-OGN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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