props2you Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok I'm playing pass roulette out of HNL, can anyone give an idea of how many empty seats are going out due to weight restrictions? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hudson Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What kind of aircraft, where to, what time of day?Example - B767, HNL>YVR, any time of day, I can't see any weight restrictions at all, same airplane HNL > SYD or NRT, perhaps. B737, OGG>YYC, hot day, perhaps restricted due weight-temperature-runway length, (tho' not altitude of airport !...;-) Have there been problems before? I don't recall seeing the topic posted/discussed before. Seating restrictions due WAT limits is pretty rare - seen it once out of Nairobi in a B747-200 destined to LHR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It's probably WS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hudson Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hi J.O. - yeah, that's why I put the B737 in the response...it could be limited depending upon factors mentioned. However, HNL has long runways so lift isn't the problem; - if it's a long destination the restriction would be on the ZFW to carry fuel instead of passengers, and that in turn is affected by winds aloft, whether significantly or not one can't tell until the flight plan is created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I have flown empty seats out of HNL many times on the 767 due to the increased weight in the hold of those prickly oval shaped things called Pineapples! So be careful and take extra airline passes with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hudson Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hi Kasey;Re, "I have flown empty seats out of HNL many times on the 767 due to the increased weight in the hold"To YVR? I can see restrictions due freight or fuel on long-haul but on a six-hr flight?That said, your advice is excellent! We routinely purchase Z fare alternatives on any routes that could be questionable and return them after the trip - works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Don, check the employee travel site, there is an alert on HNL-YVR "effective immediately" with regard to freight (B767) aka Pesky Pineapples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innuendo Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Is there a max landing weight problem perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hudson Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Kasey - okay, thanks!It says something when freight pays better than passengers on certain routes.I can recall asking for 4T more fuel on YVR > HKG; to do so on that day would have meant the deplaning of that amount of freight...very expensive, so I went with a different alternate and it worked.Innuendo...could be eh? Depends upon how the ZFW is divied up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckl Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Kasey, You mentioned flying with open seats when hauling pineapples. Was that recently? I know that was a problem years ago with the 767-200. Since then, there has always been an alert even if it is unnecessary. I guess the higher density Rouge 767-300 might have a problem but I do not believe Rouge goes to Hawaii right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
props2you Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks for the replies. I should have clarified it's the AC 767 and yes there is a weight restriction alert. I was just trying to get an idea of how any seats went out empty on average. Is it really due to pineapples? I recall even the A340 showing weight restricted out of HNL back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 These must be good pineapples. Most of the pineapples consumed in North America seem to originate in Costa Rica.(source: Google is my friend.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Pineapples for Cons, I have never seen us leave full fare behind. Remember - it cuts over to Rouge in the next short while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
props2you Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Pineapples for Cons, I have never seen us leave full fare behind. Remember - it cuts over to Rouge in the next short while.Yep I was hoping to get one last mainline flight on the '67. It's always been my favourite a/c as a passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geminoid Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Out of curiosity, is Rouge contracted to carry Air Canada freight? With higher density seating on the Rouge 767, could this mean even more load restrictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Yes, Rouge will be hauling AC freight and you are probably correct. It has never been a great place to travel on a pass and it could get a whole lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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