nighthawk Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Was reading my book about Canadian Pacific Air Lines. Very interesting history and even more with the number of types the airline flew especially during it's bush days. There's mention in the book of what happened to their older inventory but the book stops when CPAL was takeover by Pacific Western Air Lines to form Canadian Airlines International. This is done with a photo of a PWA 737 and a caption about the takeover.Well now I've checked on the web and read up to the takeover of Canadian Airlines International by Air Canada. But I have no information on what happened to the CAI inventory that was absorbed into or sold off by Air Canada. Does anyone here know. I'd like to know what happened to their large fleet of 737's and DC-10's. Thanks to anyone who can help with some info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Some of the 767 aircraft are still in the AC fleet and some are going to Rouge:637 C-FPCA 24306 DQ-CM 767-375ER AC Air Canada New Colours638 C-FTCA 24307 DQ-CP 767-375ER AC Old Air Canada Colours639 C-FXCA 24574 CQ-AL 767-375ER AC Air Canada New Colours640 C-FOCA 24575 CQ-AM 767-375ER AC Air Canada Hybrid Colours641 C-GLCA 25120 KL-JQ 767-375ER AC Old Air Canada Colours642 C-GSCA 25121 KL-MQ 767-375ER AC ST CIT - Leased back - Planned return to CIT October 30 2006645 C-GBZR 25404 DR-CG 767-38EER AC ST GECAS & leased back646 C-GDUZ 25347 DR-CQ 767-38EER AC ST GECAS & leased back647 C-GEOQ 30112 DR-CS 767-375ER AC Old Air Canada Colours648 C-GEOU 30108 DR-CK 767-375ER AC Old Air Canada Colours Here is a list of what happened to the passenger 737:708 508 C-GCPM 21716 BE-GK 737-217 3J ZIP - Blue colours - To be RTL709 509 C-GCPN 21717 BE-HJ 737-217 3J Seen at YVR Sept 21 - Stored710 510 C-GCPO 21718 BE-HK 737-217 3J Ferried YVR-TUS Sept 23 for storage711 511 C-GCPP 22255 DK-EG 737-217 3J ZIP - Fuchsia colours712 512 C-GCPQ 22256 DK-EH 737-217 AC ZIP - Green colours -To be RTL714 514 C-GCPS 22257 DK-GM 737-217 3J ZIP - Blue colours715 515 C-GCPT 22258 DL-AC 737-217 AC ZIP Orange colours716 516 C-GCPU 22259 BF-CM 737-217 3J Flew YVR-FTW 08-10-03 on RTL717 517 C-GCPV 22260 BF-DE 737-217ER AC Planned YYZ-FTW 24-09-03 for RTL718 518 C-GCPX 22341 BF-DG 737-217 AC Planned YVR-FTW 24-09-03 for RTL719 519 C-GCPY 22342 BF-DH 737-217 AC RTL - Ferried YVR -DAL August 1 (planned)720 520 C-GCPZ 22658 DJ-BH 737-217ER AC Ferried YVR-MHV Sept 28 for RTL721 521 C-GFCP 22659 DJ-BK 737-217 3J ZIP - Fuchsia colours722 522 C-GJCP 22728 DJ-BL 737-217 3J ZIP - Blue colours723 523 C-GKCP 22729 DL-BM 737-217 AC ZIP - Green colours724 524 C-GMCP 22864 EJ-FH 737-217 AC Seen at YVR Sept 21- Stored725 525 C-GQCP 22865 EJ-FK 737-217 AC ZIP - Orange colours728 528 C-FACP 22072 JK-DM 737-2L9ER AC ZIP - Blue colours729 529 C-FHCP 22024 JK-EG 737-2T5 3J Seen at YVR Sept 21- Stored730 530 C-FCPM 22761 DL-BF 737-2T7ER AC Back in 12J/88Y seating configuration - Was in AC Jetz config731 531 C-FCPN 22762 EF-DH 737-2T7 3J ZIP - Orange colours732 532 C-GQBB 22276 BC-GJ 737-296 AC Stored MHV - returning to Arkia Sept 2003734 534 C-GQBH 22516 BC-GM 737-296 AC At YYC being prepare for return to lessor739 539 C-GAPW 20922 NONE 737-275 AC Scrapped at OPF740 540 C-GBPW 20958 NONE 737-275 AC Broken up at (YVR)741 541 C-GCPW 20959 NONE 737-275 AC Flew to OPF April 10- Sold for scrap743 543 C-GEPW 21115 NONE 737-275 AC Stored at MHV744 544 C-GGPW 21639 NONE 737-275 AC Flew MHV-ACY Nov 6 for delivery to FAA745 545 C-GIPW 21712 NONE 737-275 AC Donated to Aviation Museum at YXD - In PWA Colours746 546 C-GJPW 21713 NONE 737-275 AC At MHV and RTL748 548 C-GKPW 21819 NONE 737-275 AC Stored MHV - RR and leased to Phoenix AviationAir Canada Boeing 737 Fleet (Retired)Page 1B737751 551 C-GNPW 22159 NONE 737-275 AC At Mohave - recently broken up752 552 C-GFPW 21294 NONE 737-275C AC Now owned by Air Norterra753 553 C-GPPW 22264 NONE 737-275 AC At Mohave sent to Eagle Avn France 755 555 C-GRPW 22266 NONE 737-275 AC At Mohave756 556 C-GTPW 22807 NONE 737-275 AC At Mohave - recently broken up758 558 C-GUPW 22873 NONE 737-275 AC Stored at MHV759 559 C-GVPW 22874 NONE 737-275 AC Stored at MHV760 560 C-GWPW 23823 HM-AL 737-275 AC As of June 25 was registered to Kelowna Flightcraft Air Charter.761 561 C-GNDC 21728 NONE 737-242C AC Registered to Bradley Air Services - June 18/02762 562 C-GNDU 22877 NONE 737-242C AC Sent to Air Norterra Feb 15/02782 582 C-GOPW 22160 NONE 737-275C AC Air Norterra - LF Arkia RTL Oct 25 2003783 583 C-GSPW 22618 NONE 737-275C AC Air Norterra - LF Arkia RTL Oct 25 2003784 584 C-GDPA 22056 NONE 737-2T2C AC Air Norterra - LF Arkia RTL Oct 25 2003 [This was the ultimate corporate a/c back in the day ..originally operated by Dome Petroleum] This info is a little out of date but you might be able to trace recent history with the msn. This list was from: http://canadianaviationnews.wordpress.com/air-canada-fleets-2/I think the a couple of the 10's were operated by Biman Airlines [bangladesh] for a while but most were scrapped. I'm sure Mitch or Kip will be able to provide more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thank you st27. I do hope Mitch or Kip will be able to add more details. I remember once seeing an old non airworthy Vickers Viscount in the red and white Air Canada livery before it went to who knows where. I'll cross reference the 737 list with the one in my book. So the DC-10's were used briefly by Air Canada before being sold off and scrapped? I've found it nice to see the history of these birds beyond what is written in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 As well, there are some ex-CAIL A320's still operating in the Air Canada fleet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thank you st27. I do hope Mitch or Kip will be able to add more details. I remember once seeing an old non airworthy Vickers Viscount in the red and white Air Canada livery before it went to who knows where. I'll cross reference the 737 list with the one in my book. So the DC-10's were used briefly by Air Canada before being sold off and scrapped? I've found it nice to see the history of these birds beyond what is written in the book. I'm sorry but I have no idea where any aircraft went. I loved the Truckasaurus Rex but when I took off my spurs and hung up my cape, I stored all my unforgettable, (to me), memories of aviation in my grey matter, wrote a few stories, and moved on to spending the remaining time here on planet earth doing what She and I could finally do together...boating , scuba, family and grandchildren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longtimer Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm sorry but I have no idea where any aircraft went. I loved the Truckasaurus Rex but when I took off my spurs and hung up my cape, I stored all my unforgettable, (to me), memories of aviation in my grey matter, wrote a few stories, and moved on to spending the remaining time here on planet earth doing what She and I could finally do together...boating , scuba, family and grandchildren Can not do the scuba anymore so my rankings have changed a little: Doing things with my best friend (wife), family and grandchildren, volunteering and cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 So the DC-10's were used briefly by Air Canada before being sold off and scrapped?The DC10's were parked before the merger was even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Sorry to say I can't add anything much either... I'm not a tracker sort.AC never did use the DC10's ....sadly, they were all spirited away from us as the papers were shuffled... I think Maverick, being in YVR might have more direct knowledge of their disposal, but in YYZ, all I knew was I never saw them anymore. In addition to the 37s, 320s, and 67s, we brought with us at least one 747-400... but something in my noggin says there might have been 3 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specs Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 There were 4 747-400s with GE engines from CAI - The 3 AC versions were Combis with PW 4000s.We also have some A320s still in operation 401-405, 408, and 411-416. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Say Altitude Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 552 and 562 were both -9 powered gravel combi's but have now both since been retired from Cdn North. One of them was north of 85000 cycles I believe....582/583/584 are -17 powered gravel combi's that are still in service with Cdn North and will be for awhile as I understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 " I remember once seeing an old non airworthy Vickers Viscount in the red and white Air Canada livery before it went to who knows where. "Here you go: Transport Canada had them in their inventory - also painted red and white.https://www.flickr.com/photos/29444783@N05/4111762669/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Is that Don H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Is that Don H?If it is........... it must have been a rough flight....he looks a little green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 4 or 5 of the CAIL DC-10's went to Abbotsford after their logos were taken off and sat for 3 or 4 months before heading to airplane heaven. That was early-mid 1999 if I recall correctly? One or two went to Biman but I think the rest never went back into service. I have pictures somewhere that I'll try to post later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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