Asiana Crash Landing At Sfo Saturday

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Flight Tracker says its a 777-200. Looks like evacuation took place before fire really got going.

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CNN is reporting that they had declared an emergency.

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If this is accurate - and I'm not sure I trust it - tail broke off on landing, plane flipped over.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/boeing-777-crashes-while-landing-sfo/nYfcx/

https://twitter.com/DanielleLWells/status/353582490167959552/photo/1

https://path.com/p/1lwrZb

Sal Castaneda ‏@sal_castaneda2m

San Francisco Fire Department initial reports: all people on plane accounted for. (Heard on Fire department radio). #SFOcrash

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Pictures on CNN show it right side up. Tail off. There has been fire in the cabin

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It's now being reported that they touched down short of the runway striking the seaside embankment with the tail section. Sounds eerily similar to the BA accident at LHR.

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Pictures on CNN would lead me to the same occlusion. Was short. Hit the sea wall.

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With all the plane spotters out there, someone has a video of the landing sequence.

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That runways is going to be down a while for investigators and careful clearing of debris. AC has already posted a notice waiving change fees for today, so there must be a wave of cancellations being implemented by various airlines. UA likely to feel this financially.

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CNN says no declared emergency....

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Eye Witness says wings broke off yet I am looking at video with the wings visibly attached.......

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Impact at the 28L seawall. Low and outside.

Hopefully no fatalities. The aft galley crew would have had quite a ride. Pressure bulkhead appears to be broken.

Fuel starvation or just a bad approach?

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won't know for a while. I just wish they would show the debris path from beginning to end. Their witnesses and experts are all morons to this point.

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finally.... There is debris on the sea wall and from that point onwards. The plane appears to have slid on its belly and spun 360 degrees while sliding.

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won't know for a while. I just wish they would show the debris path from beginning to end. Their witnesses and experts are all morons to this point.

Judging by the CNN Live Feed, the debris field begins right at the sea wall and extends straight on for hundreds of metres. It's slightly to the right of the middle of the runway. The tail section is broken up and scattered on the opposite side of the runway from where the fuselage stopped, maybe 100 metres from the seawall.

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Seeing the video in Malcolm's link, this is looking more and more like a carbon copy of BA038. The question will be why they ran out of energy and hit that far short.

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yeah witness says the plane spun around on its belly. Makes more sense than the reports of cartweeling. looks like it definately contacted the sea wall

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JO. Agreed. Apparently though there was no emergency call but reports conflict. Gonna have to wait for the CVR or Tower tapes for that.

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so far CNN has the aircraft type correct.....

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For them that's a major achievement. CNN = Constant Nonsense Network.

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visibility 10 plus, ceiling unlimited. Winds 8mph. Not a bad day doesnt look like weather a factor

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AAS No attachment or link. at least for me

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horizontal and vertical stab are sitting on the runway short of the displaced threshold.

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what engines are on asiana aircraft?

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SFO CLOSED to all air traffic

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From CNN

-- Flight 214 left Seoul's Incheon International Airport earlier Saturday and flew 10 hours and 23 minutes to California, according to FlightAware, a website that offers tracking services for private and commercial air traffic.

-- Anthony Castorani, who saw the flight land from a nearby hotel, said he saw the plane touch the ground then noticed a larger plume of white smoke. "You heard a pop and you immediately saw a large, brief fireball that came from underneath the aircraft," he told CNN. "It began to cartwheel."

-- Kristina Stapchuck saw the dramatic scene unfold from her seat on a plane on the airport tarmac. Soon after Flight 214 touched down, "it looked like the tires slipped a little bit and it rocked back," she told CNParts of the plane began to break off as it rocked and then began to spin. "It all happened so suddenly," Stapchuck told CNN.