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AMERICAN AIRLINES AND CANADA'S WESTJET AIRLINES ANNOUNCE COMPREHENSIVE CODESHARE AND FREQUENT FLYER RELATIONSHIP

Members of American Airlines AAdvantage and WestJet's Frequent Flyer Programs will be Able to Earn Miles or Rewards on Codeshare Flights

FORT WORTH, TX and CALGARY, Feb. 28 /CNW/ - American Airlines and WestJet Airlines announced today they have entered into a comprehensive codeshare agreement, providing customers with more choices and greater connectivity when travelling between the United States and Canada.

The codeshare relationship, which is subject to regulatory approvals, will allow American to place its AA* code on WestJet flights, and WestJet to place its WS* code on flights of American Airlines and American Eagle.

The placement of AA* code on WestJet flights will provide American's customers seamless connecting service to up to 20 Canadian cities not currently served by American or American Eagle. WestJet will initially place its WS* code on American or American Eagle flights from Canada to Chicago and Boston, with expanded service throughout American Airlines network expected in the near future. The codeshare agreement will make it easier and more convenient for customers to connect from WestJet to American's global route network and from American to WestJet's Canadian operations.

Members of the American Airlines AAdvantage® program and WestJet's Frequent Guest Program® will be able to earn miles or rewards on the codeshare flights, providing customers another benefit of the enhanced relationship. The two airlines are exploring other ways to augment their cooperation in the future.

"Our codeshare with WestJet will further expand our North American network and provide our customers seamless connections to and from cities throughout Canada," said Virasb Vahidi, American's Chief Commercial Officer. "As a valuable result of NAFTA economic integration and the open skies aviation agreement between Canada and the United States, Canada has become an ever more important business and leisure destination for travelers from the U.S."

"This agreement with American Airlines marks an important milestone in WestJet's history," said Hugh Dunleavy, WestJet's Executive Vice-President, Strategy and Planning. "WestJet is executing our strategic plan to evolve our interline and codeshare capabilities. These initial routes should immediately enhance our reach and value proposition to business and corporate travellers, particularly in central Canada. We are very pleased to see the success of our efforts as we enter the first codeshare where WestJet will actively sell on another airline. We look forward to a successful relationship with American."

Shortly after all regulatory approvals are received, customers will be able to book these codeshare itineraries through travel agencies, most major North American online travel agency websites, www.aa.com, American Airlines Reservations at 800-433-7300, www.westjet.com or the WestJet Sales Super Centre at 1-888-937-8538.

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Two completely different cultures and product, and this time it's AA that is on the verge of bankruptcy. Just wait until Southwest, who WestJet should have signed with, turn their gaze northward. Short term thinking moving them farther away from the succesful model they were based on (Southwest). This AA codeshare is a bad move for WJ. IMHO.

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Westjet has the keys to the car and are doing the driving if these guys want the connections to Canada.

The Canadian domestic market is full, WJ has to put all those B737's they have on order somewhere, and the only option is the US market. We'll see who is holding the keys when WJ trys to put their Canadian metal on AA code into their fortress hubs, I suspect the APA (Allied Pilots Association) will have a somewhat different point of view. Then sign another code-share with a COMPETING airline, double dipping as it were, it might sound smart now but will never last long term. Meanwhile Southwest continues to take market share from WestJets US loser buddies, just waiting for the opportune time to pounce into the Canadian market. Snubbing Southwest was a big mistake.

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A code share agreement was never finalized/signed with Southwest, it was just talk. This deal with AA has actually been signed, just waiting for regulatory approval.

Soutwest had a problem with the "share" in codeshare. Thats why that deal went south, it wasn't a good deal for Westjet.

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Two completely different cultures and product, and this time it's AA that is on the verge of bankruptcy. Just wait until Southwest, who WestJet should have signed with, turn their gaze northward. Short term thinking moving them farther away from the succesful model they were based on (Southwest). This AA codeshare is a bad move for WJ. IMHO.

If we didn't evolve away from the "Southwest model" I don't think we'd be nearly as successful as we are today. There was a time and place for that "model" and it has come and gone (at least in the Canadian market). If our Q4 numbers are any indication we're only getting started...

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If we didn't evolve away from the "Southwest model" I don't think we'd be nearly as successful as we are today. There was a time and place for that "model" and it has come and gone (at least in the Canadian market). If our Q4 numbers are any indication we're only getting started...

The "southwest Model" departed WestJet almost 10 years ago.

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Soutwest had a problem with the "share" in codeshare. Thats why that deal went south, it wasn't a good deal for Westjet.

You must be drinking the high-octane Kool-Aid ?

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Southwest dumps deal with WestJet

Associated Press, April 16, 2010

U.S. airline says it couldn't accept changes the Canadian carrier wanted to their agreement

Southwest Airlines Co. said Friday it is pulling out of a deal to sell travel to Canada in a partnership with WestJet Airlines Ltd.

Southwest said it couldn't accept changes that the Canadian carrier wanted to the agreement that the two reached back in 2008.

WestJet would have done all the cross-border flying, allowing passengers to connect with Southwest flights in the United States. Both airlines would have sold seats on each other's flights and shared the revenue.

Southwest, based in Dallas, carries more U.S. passengers than any other airline but doesn't fly beyond U.S. borders. Executive vice-president Bob Jordan said the airline is still interested in serving Canada either by itself or with a partner carrier.

WestJet officials did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

When they announced plans to co-operate, Southwest and Calgary-based WestJet seemed like the ideal couple. Both are low-cost airlines that try to undercut rivals by offering lower fares. They both use only Boeing 737 jets.

But the partnership appeared troubled this month, when Southwest said it was surprised to learn from media reports that WestJet was discussing a similar partnership with Delta Air Lines Inc. Delta would transfer some takeoff and landing slots at New York's LaGuardia Airport to the Canadian carrier.

WestJet chief executive officer Gregg Saretsky said at the time that Southwest wasn't ready for the planned cross-border operation, which Southwest officials disputed.

Southwest has said it is working on a partnership with Volaris to sell service between the U.S. and Mexico, although no starting date has been announced.

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After Saretzky is done turning WestJet into Canadi<n Airlines how long do you think it will be before TheBean and his buddies are starting Volaris North, with a Southwest codeshare already behind them !?

The "southwest Model" departed WestJet almost 10 years ago.

The "Southwest model" departed Southwest more than 10 years ago as well, they have entered the high priced markets of New York, Denver and now Atlanta, they are the largest domestic carrier in the USA and are eating the legacy carriers lunch. The numbers speak for themselves. In the last 10 years (2001-2010) AMR Corp. has shown a net LOSS of US$ 11.4 Billion, that's a LOSS and a Billion with a "B", US$ 4 Billion of that in the last 3 years alone. During the same 10 year period Southwest has shown a net PROFIT of $US 4.6 Billion, that's profit with "P", increasing their fleet size from 355 to 548 aircraft, all Boeing 737's. Who would you want to be partners with !?

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After Saretzky is done turning WestJet into Canadi<n Airlines how long do you think it will be before TheBean and his buddies are starting Volaris North, with a Southwest codeshare already behind them !?

The "Southwest model" departed Southwest more than 10 years ago as well, they have entered the high priced markets of New York, Denver and now Atlanta, they are the largest domestic carrier in the USA and are eating the legacy carriers lunch. The numbers speak for themselves. In the last 10 years (2001-2010) AMR Corp. has shown a net LOSS of US$ 11.4 Billion, that's a LOSS and a Billion with a "B", US$ 4 Billion of that in the last 3 years alone. During the same 10 year period Southwest has shown a net PROFIT of $US 4.6 Billion, that's profit with "P", increasing their fleet size from 355 to 548 aircraft, all Boeing 737's. Who would you want to be partners with !?

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Planned Codeshare routes as follows, subject to approval:

WestJet Operated by American Airlines

Calgary – Chicago

Calgary – Dallas

Halifax – New York JFK

Montreal – Chicago

Montreal – Dallas

Montreal – Miami

Montreal – New York JFK

Ottawa – Chicago

Toronto – Boston

Toronto – Chicago

Toronto – Dallas

Toronto – Los Angeles

Toronto – Miami

Toronto – New York JFK

Vancouver – Dallas

Between Ft. Myers/Las Vegas/Los Angeles/Miami/Orange County/Palm Springs/Phoenix/San Diego/San Francisco and:

Albuquerque, Austin, Boston, Chicago O’Hare, Dallas, Denver, El Paso, Ft. Myers, Fresno, Gainesville, Honolulu, Houston, Jacksonville, Kahului, Key West, Kona, Las Vegas, Lihue, Los Angeles, Miami, Monterey, Nashville, New York JFK, Newark, Oklahoma City, Orange County, Orlando, Palm Springs, Pensacola, Phoenix, Raleigh, Reno, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, San Juan, Santa Barbara, Santa Fe, St. Croix, St. Louis, Tallahassee, Tampa, Tucson, Washington Dulles

American Airlines operated by WestJet

All US – Canada Routes

Between Toronto/Calgary/Montreal/Vancouver and:

Abbotsford, Calgary, Charlottetown, Comox, Deer Lake, Edmonton, Ft. McMurray, Grand Prairie, Halifax, Hamilton, Kamloops, Kelowna, Kitchener, London ON, Moncton, Montreal, Ottawa, Prince George, Quebec City, Regina, Saskatoon, St. John’s Nfld, Sydney NS, Thunder Bay, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Windsor, Winnipeg and Yellowknife

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Canadi>n was flying 747-400's to far away places and we got treated like Central Mountain Airways.

That makes Westjet, Harbour Air (or maybe the Boundry Bay Flying Club?)

American on the verge of Bankrupcy? Last I looked, the APA boys were the only legacy carrier left with intact pensions.

The APA has served their Pilots very well, they are tough Texas SOB's.

Good luck, you'll need it!

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You show AA operating most if not all of the Westjet flights to / from the US but in the Westjet flying you show Westjet operating all US-Canada Routes on behalf of AA or am I reading it wrong?

Other than YYZ-LAX and YYZ-MIA there is no over lap of routes WestJet does not fly the other city pairs listed.

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Malcolm,

Flights operated by WestJet with AA code:

Between Toronto/Calgary/Montreal/Vancouver and:

Abbotsford, Calgary, Charlottetown, Comox, Deer Lake, Edmonton, Ft. McMurray, Grand Prairie, Halifax, Hamilton, Kamloops, Kelowna, Kitchener, London ON, Moncton, Montreal, Ottawa, Prince George, Quebec City, Regina, Saskatoon, St. John's Nfld, Sydney NS, Thunder Bay, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Windsor, Winnipeg and Yellowknife

Flights operated by AA with WestJet code:

WestJet Operated by American Airlines

Calgary – Chicago

Calgary – Dallas

Halifax – New York JFK

Montreal – Chicago

Montreal – Dallas

Montreal – Miami

Montreal – New York JFK

Ottawa – Chicago

Toronto – Boston

Toronto – Chicago

Toronto – Dallas

Toronto – Los Angeles

Toronto – Miami

Toronto – New York JFK

Vancouver – Dallas

Flights operated by AA in the USA with WestJet code:

Between Ft. Myers/Las Vegas/Los Angeles/Miami/Orange County/Palm Springs/Phoenix/San Diego/San Francisco and:

Albuquerque, Austin, Boston, Chicago O'Hare, Dallas, Denver, El Paso, Ft. Myers, Fresno, Gainesville, Honolulu, Houston, Jacksonville, Kahului, Key West, Kona, Las Vegas, Lihue, Los Angeles, Miami, Monterey, Nashville, New York JFK, Newark, Oklahoma City, Orange County, Orlando, Palm Springs, Pensacola, Phoenix, Raleigh, Reno, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, San Juan, Santa Barbara, Santa Fe, St. Croix, St. Louis, Tallahassee, Tampa, Tucson, Washington Dulles

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The big confusion in the comparison between Canadian and AA is that they had Anti-Trust Immunity. They could adjust schedule and pricing on easch route and not have to worry about regulators. They had AA people imbedded in the Board at Canadian which controlled what Canadian was allowed to do. It was a defacto take-over. Westjet and AA will have no ability to set pricing or schedules. WestJet will be allowed to dance with whoever they choose. Am I afraid of the APA? No. They have no ability do dictate where we fly or what routes we operate. I have faith that our mamagement will use this to make the most money possible. Our CASM is significantly lower than theirs is. Do the math.

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Plus, AA had a Quarter of a Billion dollar investment in Canadi>n. The average APA Member will likely have never heard of Westjet.

Don Carty was ex-CP and was a large part of the connection.

Now that you are carrying 'their' code, they will be paying very close attention.

Our CASM is significantly lower than theirs is. Do the math.

So was Canadi>n's, to the point we were affectionately known as "Frostbacks."

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