Powermatic Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Does anyone know how DH crew are treated as far as carry on luggage goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Does anyone know how DH crew are treated as far as carry on luggage goes? Going through security I would bet 1 item will be what is enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermatic Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 OK, let me re-word the question. DH crews in uniform. Does anyone know for sure yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Normal ops for AC pilots/same as before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinnaker Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 how about commuting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeman Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Aren't commuters passengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canus Chinookus Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Give it up, Spinny! You 'choose' to commute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southshore Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 A commuter is just another passenger who happens to work for an airline. Uniform or not, the same security restrictions apply as for any other traveller. The new issues really only have an effect if you are going to the US. They don't apply returning to Canada from the US. To do a bypass as a DH you have to have your pairing sheet, a boarding card and your RAIC. If you cheat as a commuter and get caught - kiss your RAIC and your job goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Out of YVR I was treated as Crew even though I was DH. Water bottle etc just as other crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Out of YVR I was treated as Crew even though I was DH. Water bottle etc just as other crew. And you are responsible for that violation of the security rules. If you are a passenger, you are required to comply with the carry-on liquids requirements (and all other security protocols for passengers), whether the security people catch up with you or not. That includes passing through normal passenger screening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Every airline communicates these procedures to their crews. Please leave the specifics off of a public forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 All of this info is public domain already. While every Canadian airline does communicate it, it's not so easy for ex-pats working for foreign companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Every airline communicates these procedures to their crews. Please leave the specifics off of a public forum. Do you work for "Every Airline"? Where are they based? If I am Commuting on a Company Paid Ticket and receiving duty pay for the travel which occurs just prior to or following a "Crew Operating" trip am I just a "Passenger"? What does DH Crew mean then? A little common sense here please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Then you are treated like an on duty crewmember as long as you are in uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModerateChop Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Going through security I would bet 1 item will be what is enforced. This applies to US destinations only. According to the CATSA website, two (2) carry on bags are still allowed to Canadian destinations. Has anyone had a problem taking two (2) carry on bags while commuting to a Canadian destination from inside Canada ? http://www.catsa-acsta.gc.ca/home.aspx?id=...Accueil〈=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southshore Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Then you are treated like an on duty crewmember as long as you are in uniform. Negative. If you are not deadheading as part of your pairing, you are required, uniform or not, to comply with normal passenger screening procedure. Contents restrictions also apply so check your toothpaste. Commuters use the bypass at their peril, regardless of who bought you ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 In the example handyman gives, he is by definition dh'ing. This is what I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powermatic Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 Obviously there are several scenarios and perhaps several interpretations of the rules. As for my experience, I was d/h crew to JFK as part of my assigned schedule. Nothing different as far as carry on luggage and did not surrender my oversized toothpaste. I was not subject to the pat-down screen at the boarding gate. This flight did not pre-clear customs in Canada. As a result, the TSA braintrust in JFK hand searched all crewmembers luggage on arrival. One US immigration guy working the crew line, several international flights arriving at the same time all with 13 to 17 crew....... just super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbusguy Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 To do a bypass as a DH you have to have your pairing sheet, a boarding card and your RAIC. Is there a link available where I can download this infomation so I can carry it with me in my flight bag? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60N30W Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Airbusguy, If you are ALPA give your MEC a call they will have the info from Transport Canada security, same goes for ACPA, except I am not sure if they are called an MEC or not, if you are part of the WJ pilots non-unionized association they too will have the info, as for everyone else not sure, since we all received the info from out MEC after meetings with Transport. Regards, 60N30W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbusguy Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 60N30W, thanks for the reply. I will have to ask around as none of the above apply to me. Cheers edited for spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60N30W Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Airbusguy PM me with who you work for and I ll see if I can send you in the right direction. I am leaving on a 5 dayer in a bit so may take a few days to get back to you Regards, 60N30W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbusguy Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 60N30W, will do. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Negative. If you are not deadheading as part of your pairing, you are required, uniform or not, to comply with normal passenger screening procedure. Contents restrictions also apply so check your toothpaste. Commuters use the bypass at their peril, regardless of who bought you ticket. Not true. There are special exemptions, for Commuting In Uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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