Thebean Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Judging by the reduced sched and the fares on offer, it would appear this bold experiment may be coming to end before too long. Maybe it drops down to the more traditional Thurs / Sunday rotation. Somebody took a gamble that the route could be resurrected, given the large traffic generated on it 20 years ago. It was a reasonable gamble, maybe a little aggressive frequency-wise, but then again, nothing ventured, nothing gained. WJ has the margins to be able to experiment with these sorts of plays, and they should continue to allocate a small proportion of capacity to do so. If my most recent flight was any indication, I can think of one route in particular that could use at least a doubling of capacity from the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 March 4, 2015 10:00 AM Air Canada to Launch Service to Atlantic City from Toronto HubNew route to popular resort city offers customers a convenient getaway optionTORONTO, March 4, 2015 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada announced today it is launching non-stop service between its Toronto Pearson hub and Atlantic City, NJ. The seasonal service, to be flown by Air Canada Express, operated by Jazz, will offer four return trips a week beginning May 22, 2015."Air Canada is pleased to be adding Atlantic City to its already extensive U.S. network. This new route will enable our customers to conveniently travel non-stop to Atlantic City where they can enjoy its famed boardwalk, beaches and casinos. It will also provide Atlantic City a direct connection to Air Canada's Toronto global hub. The flights will be conveniently timed to link with Air Canada's extensive network for connections to and from the rest of Canada and beyond with customers eligible to accumulate and redeem Aeroplan miles," said Benjamin Smith, President, Passenger Airlines, at Air Canada."The Casino Reinvestment Development Authority welcomes Air Canada and looks forward to a strong and lasting relationship. Our organization understands the importance of increased air travel to create positive impact in the region, and the CRDA Board is fully on board with making strategic investments to expand service at the Atlantic City Airport. We are optimistic about the opportunity this provides," said John Palmieri, Executive Director of the CRDA."Atlantic City International Airport's new seasonal Air Canada service to and from Toronto demonstrates the continuing passenger demand for travel to Atlantic City and the surrounding region," said Port Authority Aviation Director Thomas Bosco. "It also is a reflection of the major investments put in Atlantic City International Airport in recent years, making this regional airport an attractive opportunity for carriers internationally, as well as domestically.''Air Canada's service between Toronto Pearson and Atlantic City International Airport will be operated from May 22 to September 7, 2015, using a 74-seat Bombardier Q-400 aircraft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Without going into detail, there is no doubt in my mind that had WJ continued on with Atlantic City with the heavy, heavy, discounting they had to endure to fill seats after launching LGA, it would have been enormously erosive to the LGA loads, yields and rasm. From what I understand, a certain demographic discovered it was a very inexpensive way to bypass, at the time, very high fares between Toronto and the more traditional NYC area airports, and of course, PHL which is about 50 miles from ACY. WJ loads on YYZ-ACY over the last 3 months of 2009 were 53.7%, and that was with average fares that were well below $100 each way. They'll be those that suggest that those loads would translate into near 100% l/f's on smaller gauge equipment, but after close to 20 years in the business, I've never seen that sort of thing pan out in the real world. If it did, airlines would perpetually down gauge to operate near 100% full. I guess most gamblers felt that if they were going to go through the time and effort of travelling by air anywhere to gamble, they might as well go to "Center Ice", Las Vegas, instead of an increasingly peripheral location, (and even more so today than 2009), like Atlantic City. There's nothing wrong with experimenting, but I'd make a wager of a decent Canadian chocolate bar the service won't last 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 The greater issue with gaming in the US northeast is it has just been spread too thin and nobody is making money. Atlantic City has been hit hardest because the big gaming companies can just retreat to safer markets such as Vegas, Macau or wherever while the Indian bands just keep opening more and more casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moeman Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There's nothing wrong with experimenting, but I'd make a wager of a decent Canadian chocolate bar the service won't last 12 months. I'll pass on that bet. As an aside, what's a decent Canadian chocolate bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Can only get these in Canada, and yes, they're good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I'll pass on that bet. As an aside, what's a decent Canadian chocolate bar?[/quoteThe U.S. does many things exceedingly well. Making an edible candy bar is not one of them. Give me a Cadbury's Fruit and Nut Bar, or better yet, Malteasers, (gotta be fresh) or, were nirvana possible, a Macintosh bar of toffee, circa 1973, (not that nasty stuff they pass off as toffee today). Swiss chocolate rules, I fear this thread is going to drift....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 So what ever happened to the 'Snack Bar' & the 'Virginia Nut' chocolate bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFG Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 .... Swiss chocolate rules,I fear this thread is going to drift.......Threads don't "drift", they just get rowed in new directions, but since I'm not a chocaholic, I'll take my oar back out ... Cheers, IFG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Threads don't "drift", they just get rowed in new directions, but since I'm not a chocaholic, I'll take my oar back out ... Cheers, IFG I'll put an oar in for you...just this one time. A bar that is hard to find up here and one that my "Florida" friends always bring, (by the case), up for me are "Payday" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boney Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 What do you have when you combine Viagra with Chocolate?Oh Henry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaEH Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Trader Joes salted caramel chocolate Bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Bean. Cadbury has been taken over by Kraft and has changed their Chocolate to an "American" recipe. They have ruined a great brand IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 All in the name of profit over product. But given our propensity to buy Walmart's cheap foreign crap in order to save a few dimes, it's little wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 All in the name of profit over product. But given our propensity to buy Walmart's cheap foreign crap in order to save a few dimes, it's little wonder.I was pleasantly surprised to find a large amount of "North American Made" cheap foreign crap in Walmart recently. Rubber boots made in Canada, Pickles from the US , etc etc etc. Our local member owned Co-op grocery on the other hand was selling Pork Ribs from Chile, cheap pickles from India, canned mushrooms from China etc. When ever possible I avoid anything made in China or from other repressive regimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo32a Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I'm not worried about repressive regimes but I have seen the conditions and sanitation that some food products we import from Thailand, China etc. are subject to, which takes any food product from "over there" off my shopping list.Your Costco tuna now is sourced in Thailand, thankfully the salmon still comes from Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 "thankfully the salmon still comes from Alaska." with Japanese additives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I'm not worried about repressive regimes but I have seen the conditions and sanitation that some food products we import from Thailand, China etc. are subject to, which takes any food product from "over there" off my shopping list.Your Costco tuna now is sourced in Thailand, thankfully the salmon still comes from Alaska.Most, if not all of "highliner" fish is now from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Bean. Cadbury has been taken over by Kraft and has changed their Chocolate to an "American" recipe. They have ruined a great brand IMHO.I sampled my Cdn stash in the freezer. Naturally, I brought it to room temperature first, and it remains edible. If they've changed it, the changes thus far are subtle. I will be on guard though. Another bar that has been ruined over the years was the Crunchie Bar. Sponge toffee and chocolate? How could they screw that up? After spending close to a month in Vietnam a few years ago, I wouldn't willingly eat anything that was grown off the land there, knowing how things are done there. With no sewage / septic systems in rural areas, everything from the high ground, meaning the villages on the roads, runs off into the low ground where the crops are. After a heavy rain, which occurs near daily for a good chunk of the year, everything from Nyguen's Autobody Shop, sewage, oil, heavy metals, you name it, cascades into the fields and ultimately into the food chain. It is nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Bean:If I understood the article correctly, this was a recent change so may not have cascaded to your "stash" yet. It would seem that Cadbury has the highest cocoa content of any chocolate which meets the British standard. apparently the American Standard is half of that. Thats why Cadbury is better than Hershey. If I am not mistaken there was a move some years ago to reduce the British Standard for Chocolate but it was defeated. The move was made to bring British chocolate in line with European Standards.Whenever I go to the UK I stock up on the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 What does Hershey do to chocolate that gives their products that unique, but weird and almost unpleasant taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Never noticed that, could it be your taste buds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm with Defcon on this. I suspect it's wax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Of course for great chocolate, but a few $$$ more .... http://www.bernardcallebaut.com/users/folder.aspwhen I flew down to DFW, the folks at AA always wanted an infusion of Hedgehogs.http://www.purdys.com/Hedgehogs-P3.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Is this not the best thread drift ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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