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He wrote a fascinating book. You can order it here. 

 

Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom: Moore, Patrick: 9798568595502: Books - Amazon.ca

 

"“It dawned on me one day that most of the scare stories in the media today are based on things that are either invisible, like CO2 and radiation, or very remote, like polar bears and coral reefs. Thus, the average person cannot observe and verify the truth of these claims for themselves. They must rely on activists, the media, politicians, and scientists – all of whom have a huge financial and/or political interest in the subject – to tell them the truth. This is my effort, after 50 years as a scientist and environmental activist, to expose the misinformation and outright lies used to scare us and our children about the future of the Earth. Direct observation is the very basis of science. Without verified observation it is not possible to know the truth. That is the sharp focus of this book.”

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Remember the first big wave of the man-made global warming. Time to fact check:

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Fact-checking claims that Al Gore said all Arctic ice will be gone in the summer by 2013

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

  • In 2009, Al Gore loosely cited researchers and said there was a “75% chance” the ice could be gone during at least some summer months within five to seven years. 

  • He made similar statements multiple other times in the late 2000s.

Former Vice President Al Gore has been a vocal advocate for policies to reduce global warming, dedicating much of his post-White House work to the cause — and encountering a fair amount of ridicule along the way.

Now some social media users are sharing posts that claim Gore wrongly predicted in the late 2000s that all the Arctic ice would be melted in the summer by 2013. 

"The North Pole will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming. Al Gore, 2009," one Facebook post says. A photo below the quote shows a man covered in ice, with more in the background, and text that says, "2021 nope it’s still cold!" 

Gore didn’t say exactly this in 2009, but he made a similar statement.

The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

In a Dec. 14, 2009, speech at the Copenhagen Climate Conference, Gore suggested the possibility of the Arctic losing some or all of its ice in the summer months within five to seven years, citing researchers associated with the Naval Postgraduate School.

"Some of the models suggest to Dr. (Wieslav) Maslowski that there is a 75% chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years."

Gore attributed the prediction to researchers, but it appears he misstated the findings.  

A day after the speech, Maslowski told the London Times that it was unclear "how this figure was arrived at … I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."

The article said that Gore’s office "later admitted that the 75% figure was one used by Dr. Maslowski as a ‘ballpark figure’ several years ago in a conversation with Mr. Gore."

Gore made similar statements about Arctic ice in his 2007 Nobel prize acceptance speech and, in 2008, a video of the opening of a German museum captured Gore saying that "the entire North polar ice cap may well be completely gone in five years." 

In his Academy Award-winning 2006 documentary  "An Inconvenient Truth," Gore warned about the coming impact of climate change on the Arctic ice cap, but he said studies showed it would be gone in the summertime "within the next 50 to 70 years" — so by 2056 or 2076.

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Posts claim Al Gore said in 2009 that the North Pole "will be ice-free in the summer by 2013 because of man-made global warming."

Gore said something similar. Citing researchers during a 2009 climate change conference, Gore  said there was a 75% chance that ice in the Arctic could be gone during at least some summer months within five to seven years. Reports indicate that he misrepresented the details of the research. 

The post is accurate but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Junior said:

I guess I will have to make a choice on who's recent link to believe. That of a scientist and co-founder of Greenpeace or that of a baggage handler with a known socialist agenda.

It may take a while, I'll let you know when I come to my decision.

Sorry dude. You just lost all your credibility. 

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3 hours ago, deicer said:

 

Moore has been criticized for his relations with “polluters and clear-cutters” through his consultancy. His primary income since the early 1990s has been consulting and publicly speaking for a variety of corporations and lobby groups such as the Nuclear Energy Institute. [7], [8]

Meanwhile, you can read about your hero, Al Gore here:

Al Gore's green investments prompt conflict of interest row | Al Gore | The Guardian

He is really rich.

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5 minutes ago, Tango Foxtrot said:

Sorry dude. You have lost all your credibility. 

Funny how you don't say why. Maybe because you are a climate change alarmist. Your credibility on that front could be questioned if that Dash8 beside your handle represents how you make money.

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He does have a point.

 


 

Obama’s new home…on the ocean

 

 

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Let’s not forget David Suzuki

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/nelson-yes-david-suzuki-you-are-what-you-do

 

“ Likely it won’t surprise many Calgarians to learn Suzuki, who has made an extremely good living berating the hoi polloi for their collective, wasteful lifestyles, let slip he’s owned a holiday apartment in Australia for years.

Now if we assume the 82-year-old doesn’t jump from the dock of one of his many B.C. homes and swim the Pacific Ocean to that Port Douglas abode in the Land Down Under, then the carbon footprint involved in a 26,000-kilometre return aircraft trip is staggering.

Just as staggering is the wilful hypocrisy of making such a well-heeled living courtesy of the whole environmental movement, despite being an individual chewing up far more resources than regular Canucks.

That’s what riles people. Regardless of whether you believe the planet’s warming is due to accumulated carbon dioxide or not — I lean that way, but then I once believed Pluto was a planet and the universe’s expansion was slowing because scientists told me such was so “

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17 hours ago, Junior said:

Meanwhile, you can read about your hero, Al Gore here:

Al Gore's green investments prompt conflict of interest row | Al Gore | The Guardian

He is really rich.

12 year old information is the best you can do?

Here is a more recent explanation of where he made his money.

https://www.wealthry.com/blog/al-gore-net-worth

https://moneyinc.com/al-gore-net-worth/

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33 minutes ago, deicer said:

12 year old information is the best you can do?

Here is a more recent explanation of where he made his money.

https://www.wealthry.com/blog/al-gore-net-worth

https://moneyinc.com/al-gore-net-worth/

Thanks for the info:

"Then president Clinton’s campaign to battle global warming became popular, this gave Al Gore yet another avenue to pursue income streams. He became a prolific author, writing books on the global warming trends and the dangers of carbon emissions. This was a great success for him and he not only participated in efforts to combat global warming, he also invested in companies which specialized in green technology." 

 

Nice to be able to have your buddies implement laws for you so your investments go way up. I guess it is only a bad thing to the frauds if they think Trump is doing that.

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This was entertaining to read about the typical alarmist fraud:

 

" In 2007, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, using a public records request, published Gore’s Nashville home utility bill, showing it used almost 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006 — 20 times the national average household consumption. Gore’s people dismissed the revelation."

 

Just like the frauds dismiss all the other hypocrisy that they do.

Leonardo DiCaprio hops from helicopter to gas guzzling private jet in Saint Tropez | Daily Mail Online

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