Sign in to follow this  
dagger

Iggy would lead Liberal/NDP coalition

Recommended Posts

Guest rattler

Looks like May, may get into power through the back door.

BILL CURRY

Globe and Mail Update

December 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM EST

OTTAWA — The Green Party - which failed to elect a single MP in the last election - will have influence in the proposed new coalition government and possibly even a Senate seat, Green Party leader Elizabeth May said Tuesday.

The Green Party is throwing its support behind the coalition and is launching a website aimed at encouraging the public to endorse the proposal. The site urges visitors to sign a petition in favour of the coalition proposal.

"We need to make it clear that the majority of Canadians want the coalition government," Ms. May said.

She told reporters she has had discussions with Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion, NDP Leader Jack Layton and Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe about possible roles for the Green Party.

While she stressed that her exact role with the coalition remains hypothetical, she confirmed that she has spoken with Mr. Dion about the possibility of her being appointed to the Senate.

"I'd be the only Senator, in the Senate, that received a million votes," she said, lumping together all the votes for Green candidates across the country. Ms. May ran as a candidate in Central Nova, N.S., in the last election, where she finished second to incumbent Conservative Peter MacKay.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wingjockey, the Globe and Mail poll now shows a clear split. So much for the majority being in favor of the coup.

Do you support the Liberal-NDP coalition's bid for power?

Yes

50%

14245 votes

No

50%

14231 votes

A coup? You have no idea.

How many times have you voted in this poll?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Not even once and here is yet another poll for you to consider.

CTV National Poll

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/HTMLTemplate?Res...bhub=VoteResult

Who would you prefer to govern the country?

The Conservatives 14363 votes (69 %)

The NDP-Liberal coalition 6321 votes (31 %)

Total Votes: 20684

I'll vote in one of these stupid polls when they list my option:

Harper and Flaherty resign, somebody like Prentice becomes interim PM, both the Liberals and Tories go through their leadership conventions, and then in the late-summer or fall, an election is called.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I'll vote in one of these stupid polls when they list my option:

Harper and Flaherty resign, somebody like Prentice becomes interim PM, both the Liberals and Tories go through their leadership conventions, and then in the late-summer or fall, an election is called.

This is the first thing I think we agree on.

Could we form a coalition between a Conservative supporter and Liberal supporter to take over the government, seems all the rage these days. laugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif

The only problem I have with your idea is that if Prentice is Interim PM, he could not also run for permanent PM status. Therefore the Cons would have to chosen an interim PM who is strong for the current economic situation but will not be running for permanent job. Unfortunately this brings up the likes of Baird or Kenny, neither of which would be very good.

The person who could do the interim job well is Abloncy, but she doesn't have the cabinet portfolio experience to handle the economic situation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What would be an interesting poll is one that asks:

How many of you folks that are responding to these polls online actually got off your backside and took part in the democratic process and went to a polling station to cast your vote?

I did an informal survey of the whiners at work yesterday and today....27 people asked.....67% did NOT vote last election. Amazingly, they took it as a personal affront when I suggest that since they didn't bother then perhaps they should have nothing to say now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dion, the avowed nationalist who ran the Liberals into the ground in bed with Duceppe, the avowed seperatist. Priceless.....

I wouldn't be offended if the Libs and NDP got together. At least there's some overlap in their thinking and socialist, "kill the rich" rhetoric.

Bringing the Bloc into this unholy alliance is unadulterated political opportunism and a shady power grab at its very worst, and Canadian's know it.

Buying off the Green vote by promising an elected patronage job for life? Charming, but not at all surprising given who's behind it.

The GG should see thru this ruse as potentially fatally divisive to the country and call an election.

Let voters sort the mess out.

Anyone who has a problem with that isn't particularly interested in democracy, just power for the sake of power.

Fish stink from the head down.

cool26.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dion, the avowed nationalist who ran the Liberals into the ground in bed with Duceppe, the avowed seperatist. Priceless.....

I wouldn't be offended if the Libs and NDP got together. At least there's some overlap in their thinking and socialist, "kill the rich" rhetoric.

Bringing the Bloc into this unholy alliance is unadulterated political opportunism and a shady power grab at its very worst, and Canadian's know it.

Apparently you missed the fact that when Stephen Harper proposed to take over parliament if the Martin government lost a confidence motion, he did so with the Bloc lending their support for a coalition. I hate that this whole thing is happening, but what's good for the goose ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest rattler

Apparently you missed the fact that when Stephen Harper proposed to take over parliament if the Martin government lost a confidence motion, he did so with the Bloc lending their support for a coalition. I hate that this whole thing is happening, but what's good for the goose ...

Of course you neglect to mention that the move was prior to the Throne Speech and applied if the Throne speech was rejected by Parliament. This time around parliament accepted the Speech from the Throne thereby implying approval of the current government.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Of course you neglect to mention that the move was prior to the Throne Speech and applied if the Throne speech was rejected by Parliament. This time around parliament accepted the Speech from the Throne thereby implying approval of the current government.

Of course you neglect to mention the throne speech didn't look anything like the deceitful Economic statement with its various partisan tricks and brinksmanship.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'll vote in one of these stupid polls when they list my option:

My how the tune has changed, you were the first one in this thread to quote a poll and now that they don't support your idea of how it should look they're "Stupid" biggrin.giflaugh.gifwink.gif

Well, let's see, there's a poll out in Quebec this morning that 76% support the coalition idea and only 9% want a new election. The same poll has Conservative support in the province down to 15% from 22% on election day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
My how the tune has changed, you were the first one in this thread to quote a poll and now that they don't support your idea of how it should look they're "Stupid" biggrin.giflaugh.gifwink.gif

I still don't vote in them because a real poll - like the one in Quebec which was conducted by a polling agency for LaPresse - has some merit as a measure of the electorate. These kinds of unscientific sounds do not. Drudge had polls like this after each US election debate, and McCain and Palin won all of them by margins of 2-1 and 3-1.

So my tune hasn't changed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I still don't vote in them because a real poll - like the one in Quebec which was conducted by a polling agency for LaPresse - has some merit as a measure of the electorate. These kinds of unscientific sounds do not. Drudge had polls like this after each US election debate, and McCain and Palin won all of them by margins of 2-1 and 3-1.

So my tune hasn't changed.

OK, why don't you start a poll here, you know everone can only vote once, there are people from all across Canada and you get to choose the questions? wink.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest rattler
Of course you neglect to mention the throne speech didn't look anything like the deceitful Economic statement with its various partisan tricks and brinksmanship.

And you point is????????????? So what do you think about the house today and the performance of the BLOC ? Amazing how quite the Liberals and the NDPs were when there was standing ovations from the BLOC regarding separatism

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest rattler
I still don't vote in them because a real poll - like the one in Quebec which was conducted by a polling agency for LaPresse - has some merit as a measure of the electorate. These kinds of unscientific sounds do not. Drudge had polls like this after each US election debate, and McCain and Palin won all of them by margins of 2-1 and 3-1.

So my tune hasn't changed.

So you like polls from La Presse as they are "real", really????????????? biggrin.gif

La Presse poll shows Tories positioned for strong majority

Reuters

Published: Monday, September 08, 2008

OTTAWA - A poll released Monday predicted for the first time that Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper would be able to transform his minority government into a strong majority in the Oct. 14 election.

The Segma poll, taken for La Presse newspaper, put support for the Conservatives at 43 per cent, which the pollsters said would translate into 183 of the 308 seats in the House of Commons.

It predicted the opposition Liberals would get 25 per cent of the vote, translating into just 62 seats.

The Conservatives had 127 seats in the old Parliament, while the Liberals had 95.

The  Bloc Québécois hold 48 seats and the New Democrats have 30 seats.

Canada's election campaign started on Sunday as Harper sought a new mandate after 2 1/2 years in power.

He said Sunday that he only expected to win another minority, and his staff clearly worry that a strong showing this early in the election game will only encourage other parties to gang up on the Conservatives.

Pollsters often see 40 per cent support as a threshold for getting a majority of seats, although a party can win a majority with less than 40 per cent if it maintains a substantial lead over the nearest competitor.

A separate poll, conducted by Strategic Counsel for the Globe and Mail showed a shift in support toward the Conservatives in 45 hotly contested electoral districts in Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia.

"The bottom line is that the Conservatives are in significantly better shape in these battlegrounds in the three provinces than they were in the (January 2006) election," Peter Donolo of Strategic Counsel said.

The poll shows the Conservatives in first place in the key swing constituencies. Of the 45 districts sampled, 17 had been held by the Liberals, 16 by the Conservatives, eight by the Bloc and four by the New Democrats. It surveyed 1,380 people in the 45 districts from Sept. 4-6.

Segma, which polled 1,288 Canadians between Aug. 30 and Sept. 6, said its poll showed 15 per cent support for the New Democrats, eight per cent for the Bloc and seven per cent for the Greens.

The Segma sample carries a margin of error of 2.7 percentage points 19 times out of 20.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with a previous poster. Dagger, you had a lot more credibility when you stuck to aviation matters. The Liberal ilk will rot in hell for this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There has been talk of Conservative MP quitting en masse in protest. It would be more fitting if there were 12 Liberal MPs that have the cajones to refuse to vote.

I'm mad as hell!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You call Flaherty a clown and back JACK LAYTON.

I don't back Layton, but it's Harper who has made the status quo untenable, him and him alone, and if he leaves, the Conservative can mend fences with the opposition and continue to govern until the Liberals and Tories have had leadership conventions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this