Lazionic Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Any truth to the rumor that AC paid $90k to get the registration for our new 777 fin 739 C-FRAM in honour of Robert A. Milton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 No. Read the flt ops message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 We don't have access to the Flt Ops msg board. What did it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 ...It said they did not pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIP Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 And here I thought FRAM was sponsoring oil changes in the new machine !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 And here I thought FRAM was sponsoring oil changes in the new machine !! Oil changes? So that's why Mitch has adopted that aircraft as his favorite!!!! Seriously, why would it cost more to register an aircraft with a particular name? If there is any blood-sucking government fee involved, it presumably is the same whether you are registering C-FRAM or C-FRAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Seriously, why would it cost more to register an aircraft with a particular name? Maybe because, like websites, someone else already had it and didn't want to give it up? Iceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Maybe because, like websites, someone else already had it and didn't want to give it up? Iceman That presumes you can just de-register and re-register an aircraft just like a web domain, when in fact, aircraft have distinct histories for regulatory/safety tracking purposes. Though I stand to be corrected, I find the possibility highly unlikely. If not C-FRAM, AC could have done C-FROB, C-RMI, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 History of the Mark History Search Result Detail 5 matches found Mark Common Name Model Name Serial Number Service Date updated Owner Name Owner Regist. Since 1 C-FRAM Boeing 777-333ER 35250 Certificate of Registration 2008-06-25 Air Canada 2008-06-25 2 C-FRAM Boeing 777-333ER 35250 Certificate of Registration 2008-06-25 Air Canada 2008-06-25 3 C-FRAM Jodel JODEL D-9 114 Cancel C of R 2008-03-19 Royston, Geoffrey 1994-07-28 4 C-FRAM Jodel JODEL D-9 114 Certificate of Registration 1994-07-28 Royston, Geoffrey 1994-07-28 5 C-FRAM Jodel JODEL D-9 114 Cancel C of R 1994-06-20 Lawrence, Chester - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsplat Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Hmmm. So they didn't pay TC, but did they pay the previous owner of the mark? Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Hmmm. So they didn't pay TC, but did they pay the previous owner of the mark? Vs Who has C-FCJB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Hmmm. So they didn't pay TC, but did they pay the previous owner of the mark? Vs That's the way I heard the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 That's the way I heard the story. Well I guess if one cared enough, one could write the prvious resigered owner at the name and address shown on the Transport Canada Web site. http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepages/c...storysearch.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Well I guess if one cared enough, one could write the prvious resigered owner at the name and address shown on the Transport Canada Web site. http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepages/c...storysearch.asp KINDERSLEY AIRSPRAY LTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Last Registered Owner Information Name: Royston, Geoffrey Address: 4 Skyway Drive City: Guelph Province/State: Ontario Postal Code: N1H 6H8 Country: CANADA Region: Ontario Mail Recipient: Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp fa Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 The rumour about C-FRAM has been going around for a while, and the first time I heard it, it was $5 million. The guy that had the registration before (for his 50 yr old ultralight) has now changed his registration to C-IRAM. Maybe they just had someone from Montreal threaten to break his kneecaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AME Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 That presumes you can just de-register and re-register an aircraft just like a web domain, when in fact, aircraft have distinct histories for regulatory/safety tracking purposes. Though I stand to be corrected, I find the possibility highly unlikely. If not C-FRAM, AC could have done C-FROB, C-RMI, etc. It's a lot more common then you'd think, North Cariboo changes almost all of the registrations on their aircraft (DHC-8 s/n 211 now NCG was ABH) and we had a Dash 300 delivered with C-FACU which didn't take long to be changed to C-?ABO for obvious reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Or the AC 763 that came with C-FUKN until we pointed it out to RM one day. It was changed in a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Request deviations Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 That presumes you can just de-register and re-register an aircraft just like a web domain Not uncommon in the 604 world. Flew an aircraft yesterday that wore three different registrations in a seven day period in February of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozerboy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Apparently the unions of Air Canada tried to get together to purchase a going away present for Milton. They were trying to get a special registration for him but C-ROOK was already taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Or the AC 763 that came with C-FUKN until we pointed it out to RM one day. It was changed in a week. Summit Air out of Yellowknife is operating C-FUCN today [edit to reflect company name] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 AC has C-FUCJ and C-FUCL but not the one in between. We were hoping when they were being delivered. 618 bore my initials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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