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I agree but you must admit it was rather frank of him to admit such a failure. ohmy.gif

Yes but did you also note that he said "being ahead of Boeing again". Were they ever??? rolleyes.gif

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Yes but did you also note that he said "being ahead of Boeing again". Were they ever??? rolleyes.gif

It's too bad actually because competition is good for everyone. They caught up I believe due to the A320 but then they got greedy. They wanted it all and started giving away planes and then came up with unrealistic plans. It was a house of cards and now they must start from the beginning again. dry.gif

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The firm's parent company EADS now says it needs to sell 420 A380s to break even, up from a previous estimate of 270 aircraft.

To date, Airbus has sold 159 A380s and the first plane is now due in October 2007 - two years behind schedule.

Picked this up on the second read. Not good news for an already struggling company. sad.gif

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Its interesting to see the similarity to Boeing when they built the 747. I once saw a show the 747 and there was a real possibility that Boeing was going TU if the 747 didn't work. I think the A380 has the abilty to bankrupt Airbus if it flops.

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Its interesting to see the similarity to Boeing when they built the 747. I once saw a show the 747 and there was a real possibility that Boeing was going TU if the 747 didn't work. I think the A380 has the abilty to bankrupt Airbus if it flops.

I agree but also I believe companies are larger today, they leverage more and fall harder when they fail. This is not 1969! ohmy.gif

I am not an Airbus fan but at the same time...I hope they don't go under! sad.gif

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Its interesting to see the similarity to Boeing when they built the 747. I once saw a show the 747 and there was a real possibility that Boeing was going TU if the 747 didn't work. I think the A380 has the abilty to bankrupt Airbus if it flops.

Isn't it a question of whether the tap to the European taxpayer's cash gets turned off? Governments have been known to back a dead horse for a considerable time in the National Interest.

I suppose more tax dollars will only enhance the US/Boeing position on unfair subsidies.

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I'm getting a little fuzzy about these comparisons to Boeing... Ok, so it's a big ship and so's the '47, and in both cases it costs the manufacturer so much that their survival is/was at stake... but I reckon that may be about it as far as similarities go...

The 747 was a timely design, and a very sound one.

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Fri, Jan 26 2007

Please Hold Your Applause -- Airbus Says A380 Wiring Work Remains

Should Be Ironed Out By 26th Airframe

It appears word Airbus this week had solved a series of technical glitches with stubborn wiring harnesses on its A380 megajumbo may have been a tad optimistic... as the European planemaker said Thursday problems had been solved on the first aircraft only.

Reuters reports Gerhard Puttfarcken, head of Airbus' German operations, told a German newspaper this week Airbus had solved its wiring problems with the A380. Numerous news outlets, including ANN, quickly hailed the news as a long-awaited step in the righr direction for the beleagured planemaker.

Puttfarcken clarified his comments Thursday, however... stating Airbus had only solved the wiring problems on the aircraft scheduled for delivery to launch customer Singapore Airlines later this year, but work remains on other airframes.

That's good news for Singapore Airlines... but questions remain for subsequent airframes.

"We are creating the conditions so that in future there will be one common platform from all the sites," Puttfarcken told a briefing for French journalists Thursday.

While it's not the major revelation many originally thought, the news is still a step in the right direction for Airbus as it attempts to regain credibility for its oft-delayed A380 program.

The wiring issue stemmed from incompatible design specs used by Airbus' French and German plants -- harnesses made in one plant, did not line up with the fuselage segments produced by another. Airbus hopes to have a common design platform in place by the time the 26th airframe is manufactured.

Which means for the moment, Airbus will have to rework the problematic wiring harnesses on each airframe.

FMI: www.airbus.com

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This could make things even more interesting for Airbus

Airbus workers stage protests, threaten 'wave' of disruption if jobs are cut

Monday February 5, 2007

More than 20,000 Airbus workers staged protests at multiple manufacturing sites across Germany Friday to demonstrate their opposition to facility closures and job cuts rumored to be a part of the manufacturer's Power8 restructuring program, with a prominent union leader threatening a "European-wide wave of protest" aimed at disrupting production.

Details of Power8 are expected to be revealed to workers on Feb. 20. European Metalworkers Federation General Secretary Peter Scherrer said Friday's protest "marks only the beginning. . .should the EADS management plan mass layoffs and site closures. . .The European metalworking trade unions therefore demand from EADS a clear commitment in respect of industrial sites in Europe."

Labor groups representing Airbus workers said Power8 could lead to the loss of at least 10,000 jobs and the closure of several plants. Airbus, as has been its practice since Power8 was announced last October, said no firm decisions regarding cost-cutting have been made although EADS co-CEO and Airbus CEO Louis Gallois has warned that "painful" job cuts are likely (ATWOnline, Oct. 11, 2006).

by Aaron Karp

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