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UpperDeck

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  1. Maybe it isn't loathing; just a realistic perspective as to ACPA's "mission statement"---protect and advance the interests of its members however that might best be achieved. That function is not necessarily illegitimate but in its implementation, certainly will give offence to those whose employment is jeopardized as a result. Defcon has written at length about Picher. Implicit in his remarks is the understanding that AC pilots sought merger in the belief that AO pilots would be at the bottom of a merged list and, as a result, junior AC pilots would have the benefit of a buffer between themselves and layoff. Picher put a wrench in that plan and so......Obviously, the philosophical difference is between those who believe in employer-based loyalty and those whose fealty is to the "profession".
  2. But then, what do you know? Back to the other forum with Marelli, you sycophant!
  3. MD; LLB; I'm beginning to think there's almost nothing you can't do....except, of course, answer the post above....unless "because" should be construed as evidence of your philosophical propensities.
  4. You are right, of course, Defcon. If one has the innate or even aquired ability to engage in certain activities then for those special individuals, the employment requirements are easily met. No matter how much I practised, I could never have been a Mike Weir but I'll wager I can beat 90% of the golfers on this forum without expending maximum effort. I doubt that you'd make much of a welder although I'm sure you're a fine pilot.
  5. George---why? Why should the RJ FO newbie receive more by way of compensation than a max scale FA? Implicit in your post is the assumption that one JOB is inherently inferior to the other whereas in fact both employees are providing a service for which they are compensated in an amount dictated by factors extraneous to the nature (and quality) of the service provided. Is a pipefitter engaging in tasks which are intrinsically of less or more value than an FO?
  6. Imposter...You're not in law school.
  7. Back room deals? Forget the managers "tasked" with the job? Yeah..maybe a lot of pilots at mainline found his approach appealing but many sages consider that the same approach was the precursor of today's hardships. He wasn't thinking long-term; he was thinking his term.
  8. Airmail...born yesterday? You have GOT to be kidding.....integrity? Let's see...pay me his salary and I'll (1) take the deductible capital loss and (2) take the charitable contribution deduction and, (3) for minimal investment attest to my independence. And, by the way, once out of restructuring, I'll take options in the "new" stock. And how's your portfolio holding up?
  9. The point is somehow obscured. You will receive as compensation what the market will permit. Unions identify that appropriate market level and ensure your services are not underpriced or they fail to adequately define the parameters and "all is lost". Or is it? What is the "value" of a pilot's service; or that of an mechanic? If you have ANY ability as a marine electrician, you can travel ANYWHERE and get $25 - $30 /hr on your terms CASH!!! In other words...the market rules according to market rules. A lot more qualified pilots than planes? Then guess what happens to wages. How many here questioned (nay; sneered at) the $30,000 pilot payment? The road is clear...the market will dictate both demand and compensation.
  10. The point is somehow obscured. You will receive as compensation what the market will permit. Unions identify that appropriate market level and ensure your services are not underpriced or they fail to adequately define the parameters and "all is lost". Or is it? What is the "value" of a pilot's service; or that of an mechanic? If you have ANY ability as a marine electrician, you can travel ANYWHERE and get $25 - $30 /hr on your terms CASH!!! In other words...the market rules according to market rules. A lot more qualified pilots than planes? Then guess what happens to wages. How many here questioned (nay; sneered at) the $30,000 pilot payment? The road is clear...the market will dictate both demand and compensation.
  11. You never had control. That's point#1. Miltie suggests to the employees; "You had your chance". That's more BS. You think the unions didn't understand CCAA? You're more the fool. There is a certain degree of inevitability when your daily expenses exceed your daily income ---repeatedly. Tom, Dick or Harry...they would have made an assignment long ago.
  12. You were probably thinking of the Creditors' Relief Act (and stuck Canada in front)...or maybe the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency which isn't unreasonable at this time of year.
  13. Forget the employees per se. They have no club. Re-structuring requires creditor committment or CCRA "rationalization" of debt and AC cannot continue with its present debt load. Liabilities FAR exceed assets....make the assignment NOW and move on.
  14. What an incredible amount of BS!! I have two post-graduate degrees. Whoopee!! One of the smartest fellows I ever met dropped out of Grade 9. Should we pause to discuss Einstein's academic achievements? Guys...if you truly believe that the US had the moral obligation and "right" in international law to invade a foreign country because of its belief that Iraq had WMD (not yet discovered, by the way), then pluck the strings of your lute and sing to your heart's delight. There are many reasonably intelligent people who feel otherwise and believe that this is a hypocritical exercise of power. What have you said so many times before, Defcon? "Might is right?"
  15. And "inappropriate questioning" is interrogation...and the videos by the US media of Afghan "prisoners" in Cuba don't count, right? Forget the recent debate on whether torture of a US-held admitted leader of al quaeda is justified. Lord...don't you sometimes feel compelled to compare the prior conduct of the US when assessing its judgment of the conduct of others.? The US invaded Iraq with the political support of only two of its allies. Is everbody else wrong?
  16. Accept or don't accept the assertion...it's irrelevant to me. Recognize however that there is no benefit to be derived from misrepresenting the information conveyed. I'm not being coy; just protecting my own identity and the circumstances in which I became privy to the communication.
  17. Gotta tell you, George...the quote was just that ---a quote---and definitely not BS. The accuracy of the remark (and at the time it was made, it was thought to be overly dramatic and alarmist) is now becoming evident.
  18. There are no doubt a number of valid reasons for trashing CUPE's position but at some point, you have to acknowledge the justification for a sense of outrage that the company undertook negotiations with CUPE and bargained for certain benefits with full knowledge that the company had no intention of fulfilling the terms of the agreement. What was the purpose of the exercise? Please remember that CUPE does not have the access to senior management that is enjoyed by ACPA and hence is often compelled to accept as accurate various representations made by functionaries that senior management know are false or, at best, misleading. While Rob G was counselling various ACPA confreres last July as to the forthcoming negative financial environment ("AC as you know it now will not exist by next summer"), other employees were being assured by Uncle Miltie that the future was bright. In another thread,someone mentioned the importance of the "trust"...I don't think there is a great deal of that commodity to be found in this work environment right now.
  19. It can be added that Ms.Sachs will now engage in a "suck and blow" exhibition. The AC Component argued before the CIRB that the CP FA "no lay-off" clause should be avoided because of force majeure -(She lost). In far more severe conditions, she is now compelled to argue that force majeure does NOT apply!
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